NOTE: I read the rules. This isn't political, as I'm not taking any side of a political party.
If this gets out of hand, however, I will close the thread, and erase the OP.
Calmly state your standpoint, why you have that standpoint, and respectfully listen/disagree with someone else's.
The -blam!- filter should not be breached, and there should be no hurt feelings from this thread. I merely want to know the Flood's standpoint on the matter.
I personally am strongly for it.
I see absolutely nothing wrong with it, and I haven't so much as glanced at the chick-fil-a since it was discovered they gave money to anti--blam!--blam!- organizations.
Love is love.
And if Chick-fil-a can say their opinion, and discriminate against -blam!--blam!-s, I can say my opinion and not eat there.
OP Lives in Dallas BTW
[Edited on 08.11.2012 12:03 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] da5boroughs I'm against same-sex marriage because it is, simply put, an oxymoron. I've always seen marriage defined as a (often religious) union between a man and a woman. I'm all for LGBT rights, and I would have no problem with a civil union between a man and a man or woman and woman that has the same properties as marriage, but you shouldn't call it marriage. Basically I agree with that Recon guy.[/quote] Personally, I think it's a stupid concept in the first place. Gheys should be happy together and away from the marriage, which is basically a massive scam. However, considering there are legal benefits, it needs to be universal. What's wrong with gheys fighting for financial benefits? Are you suggesting straight couples don't care about money? [Edited on 08.11.2012 12:51 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] oaklandp8ntbalr [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] B4RK1NG SP1D3R [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] krisman1 Love is love.[/quote] Here's my problem with it. I'm not for, nor am I against same-sex marriage, but it's the way they're branding their cause. They say to "support love". They're not doing it for love, they're doing it to gain the same financial benefits as opposite-sex couples. Keyword [i]financial[/i]. Last time I checked, two men or two women can be together and love eachother without being arrested. So again, they can fight for their cause, whatever, but don't try to mislead people just to get them on your side. Be honest about it. They're fighting to get the same financial benefits, not for [i]love[/i]. Because people can love eachother without having to be married.[/quote] Have you ever even [i]talked[/i] to a ghey couple?[/quote] Yes, I have. My uncle is ghey, and I visit him and his partner quite often. I've researched the subject aswell, and a lot of what they're fighting for are for the benefits that come with marriage, mainly the financial ones.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] B4RK1NG SP1D3R [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] krisman1 Love is love.[/quote] Here's my problem with it. I'm not for, nor am I against same-sex marriage, but it's the way they're branding their cause. They say to "support love". They're not doing it for love, they're doing it to gain the same financial benefits as opposite-sex couples. Keyword [i]financial[/i]. Last time I checked, two men or two women can be together and love eachother without being arrested. So again, they can fight for their cause, whatever, but don't try to mislead people just to get them on your side. Be honest about it. They're fighting to get the same financial benefits, not for [i]love[/i]. Because people can love eachother without having to be married.[/quote] It's not even financial benefits. It's the fact that ina country that celebrates equality. They are not granted equality. It's a fact that same sex couples are being discriminated against legally, for whatever reason. If I was -blam!-, I would like to know I have the same opportunity to get married as everyone else does.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] da5boroughs I'm against same-sex marriage because it is, simply put, an oxymoron. I've always seen marriage defined as a (often religious) union between a man and a woman. I'm all for LGBT rights, and I would have no problem with a civil union between a man and a man or woman and woman that has the same properties as marriage, but you shouldn't call it marriage. Basically I agree with that Recon guy.[/quote]Seperate but equal is inheritely unequal.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RECON828 I dunno. I used to be completely OK with it but I'm not sure on the exact definition of marriage. I'm under the impression that it was originally designed to be a union between a man and a woman, with that being the whole point of it. If this is true, I don't see the point in changing the whole point of the ceremony purely just because it's politically correct. In that case, I obviously don't have a problem with them being together or anything like that, just think that it goes against the definition. If the impression I'm under is a bad one (and I'm aware it most likely is), then I see no problem with it at all. I'm not sure what it is and don't care enough to google. Please don't bite my balls if I'm wrong about it. Honestly, I wish the rights given to married couples could be accessed without being married. I find it a bit of a pointless constitution, to be honest.[/quote] It's funny that you stated your opinion and you're scared of what people will say to you. I've recently learned that tolerance is a one way street. OT: I agree with this guy. I don't think it's cool that a group of people are hijacking the word marriage. Don't destroy something for someone else (marriage for anti-blam!- people) because then you are becoming what you hate, discriminators. Instead, you create something new or be happy with what you've got.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dustin 6047 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] William Jethrod [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] rj is cool I am not being defensive. You like to life check people on a game forum and call them out because you can't handle there opinions? grow up.[/quote] Coming from the guy going on a tirade about the big scary "liberal media"? Come on dude, maybe if you spent less time dreaming up conspiracy theories you could focus on getting a date for once.[/quote]Yet, it's ironic how he probably watches Faux News. So ironic...[/quote]And let me guess you watch CNN where they are stuck on -blam!- Marrige for the past month' how ironic.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] joedanny96 Am I gettan trolled?[/quote]No you're just an idiot.
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[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussCHoQttyQ]Let the truth be told.[/url] [Edited on 08.11.2012 12:49 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] B4RK1NG SP1D3R [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] krisman1 Love is love.[/quote] Here's my problem with it. I'm not for, nor am I against same-sex marriage, but it's the way they're branding their cause. They say to "support love". They're not doing it for love, they're doing it to gain the same financial benefits as opposite-sex couples. Keyword [i]financial[/i]. Last time I checked, two men or two women can be together and love eachother without being arrested. So again, they can fight for their cause, whatever, but don't try to mislead people just to get them on your side. Be honest about it. They're fighting to get the same financial benefits, not for [i]love[/i]. Because people can love eachother without having to be married.[/quote]It's more than financial.
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I'm against same-sex marriage because it is, simply put, an oxymoron. I've always seen marriage defined as a (often religious) union between a man and a woman. I'm all for LGBT rights, and I would have no problem with a civil union between a man and a man or woman and woman that has the same properties as marriage, but you shouldn't call it marriage. Basically I agree with that Recon guy.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] omg a bannana [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] joedanny96 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] omg a bannana [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] joedanny96 [quote][i]"You're born -blam!-!"[/i][/quote] [url=http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/01/24/1225993/847722-michael-parkinson.jpg]Mfw[/url][/quote]Problem?[/quote] le epic troll ecksdee[/quote]But you are born -blam!-.[/quote] Am I gettan trolled?
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Due to personally beliefs, No. But in reality I don't care.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] B4RK1NG SP1D3R [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] krisman1 Love is love.[/quote] Here's my problem with it. I'm not for, nor am I against same-sex marriage, but it's the way they're branding their cause. They say to "support love". They're not doing it for love, they're doing it to gain the same financial benefits as opposite-sex couples. Keyword [i]financial[/i]. Last time I checked, two men or two women can be together and love eachother without being arrested. So again, they can fight for their cause, whatever, but don't try to mislead people just to get them on your side. Be honest about it. They're fighting to get the same financial benefits, not for [i]love[/i]. Because people can love eachother without having to be married.[/quote] Have you ever even [i]talked[/i] to a ghey couple?
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There really isn't a good argument against it, so of course I support it like any other normal person.
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For it. No one organisation owns marriage, so nobody should be allowed to dictate the course of it. Its 2012, and there is no logical reason to deny them equal rights, and two men/women getting married in a government office infringes upon the rights of no one.
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Absolutely for it.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] krisman1 Love is love.[/quote] Here's my problem with it. I'm not for, nor am I against same-sex marriage, but it's the way they're branding their cause. They say to "support love". They're not doing it for love, they're doing it to gain the same financial benefits as opposite-sex couples. Keyword [i]financial[/i]. Last time I checked, two men or two women can be together and love eachother without being arrested. So again, they can fight for their cause, whatever, but don't try to mislead people just to get them on your side. Be honest about it. They're fighting to get the same financial benefits, not for [i]love[/i]. Because people can love eachother without having to be married.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] rj is cool [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jrv2005 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] William Jethrod [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] rj is cool I am not being defensive. You like to life check people on a game forum and call them out because you can't handle there opinions? grow up.[/quote] Coming from the guy going on a tirade about the big scary "liberal media"? Come on dude, maybe if you spent less time dreaming up conspiracy theories you could focus on getting a date for once.[/quote] You're both 7 and you need to stop derailing the thread with your antics.[/quote]I'm 7 for giving out a opinion? [/quote] You're 7 because A)DUR HUR LIBRAL MEDIA CONSPIRACY and B)You get trolled easily, which means you're a kid. Let me guess...15, 16 years old? Seriously though, stop it. There is a topic, a repetitive one, but a topic nonetheless, so you should stick to it instead of getting all defensive and butthurt.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jrv2005 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] William Jethrod [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] rj is cool I am not being defensive. You like to life check people on a game forum and call them out because you can't handle there opinions? grow up.[/quote] Coming from the guy going on a tirade about the big scary "liberal media"? Come on dude, maybe if you spent less time dreaming up conspiracy theories you could focus on getting a date for once.[/quote] You're both 7 and you need to stop derailing the thread with your antics.[/quote] Shut up -blam!-, who made you the forum cop?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] joedanny96 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] omg a bannana [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] joedanny96 [quote][i]"You're born -blam!-!"[/i][/quote] [url=http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/01/24/1225993/847722-michael-parkinson.jpg]Mfw[/url][/quote]Problem?[/quote] le epic troll ecksdee[/quote]But you are born -blam!-.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MASTERMIND416 I, personally, do not support same-sex marriage. My definition of marriage is the commune of a man and a woman into one unit with two branches, each with their own special responsibilities. I am not saying I hate -blam!--blam!-s, I simply believe that marriage is not, by definition, enacted when two of the same sex decide to become in an affectionate relationship.[/quote]What good are you doing if you're blocking two people from loving and marrying for the order of a definition?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] omg a bannana [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] joedanny96 [quote][i]"You're born -blam!-!"[/i][/quote] [url=http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/01/24/1225993/847722-michael-parkinson.jpg]Mfw[/url][/quote]Problem?[/quote] le epic troll ecksdee
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jrv2005 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] William Jethrod [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] rj is cool I am not being defensive. You like to life check people on a game forum and call them out because you can't handle there opinions? grow up.[/quote] Coming from the guy going on a tirade about the big scary "liberal media"? Come on dude, maybe if you spent less time dreaming up conspiracy theories you could focus on getting a date for once.[/quote] You're both 7 and you need to stop derailing the thread with your antics.[/quote]I'm 7 for giving out a opinion?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] William Jethrod [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] rj is cool I am not being defensive. You like to life check people on a game forum and call them out because you can't handle there opinions? grow up.[/quote] Coming from the guy going on a tirade about the big scary "liberal media"? Come on dude, maybe if you spent less time dreaming up conspiracy theories you could focus on getting a date for once.[/quote]Yet, it's ironic how he probably watches Faux News. So ironic...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] joedanny96 [quote][i]"You're born -blam!-!"[/i][/quote] [url=http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/01/24/1225993/847722-michael-parkinson.jpg]Mfw[/url][/quote]Problem?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dustin 6047 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] rj is cool [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] William Jethrod Can't create life when you're a permavirgin loser, but you don't see us complaining about you.[/quote]Life checking? You don't know me. Nor do I know you. I think you are just angry that you can't take opinions. And that shows how immature you are.[/quote]You can't call anyone immature until you address logical arguments, so far, you've been avoiding them all. And dude, people have tried to prevent interracial marriage before, they failed and those same people will fail again.[/quote]Honstly I could care less if it gets passed or not. Interracial Marrage is a whole other game. I understand this is a touchy subject. But why is this such a big deal now? why did they wait to 2012? and them the media points a picks at all the stuff that does not approve off it. like chick fila.