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8/9/2012 11:38:28 PM
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I don't have to like you, and your thread is stupid.

I don't like you, I don't have to like you, and your thread is stupid.  The subject matter within this thread must be handled very delicately, as I do not wish to encourage hateful and cruel behavior towards others. Now that this has been stated, I shall continue with illustrating my point and opening this thread to discussion and debate.  The rules here state very simply:  [b]Play nice.[/b] Insulting someone directly, attacking them or attempting to belittle an individual are not only against the rules, but avoiding these actions should be a part of every persons moral code.  Yet here I stand, an individual who despises stupidity. Not graceful ignorance, but stupidity. And when I just so happen to come across blatant stupidity that goes unchecked, I feel an unyielding obligation to publicly announce what it is they have said is stupid, and why it is they are an idiot for having said it. And I hope to God, someone would show me the same courtesy, as I would rather stand corrected than to look like a fool who refuses to educate himself for future instances. Now here is where things get a tricky as I will try to justify why a certain level of cruelty or harshness is sometimes necessary when correcting or educating someone, especially online. But let's clear a few things up first... If someone is simply making a thread to ask a question, then the best course of action is to of course, kindly assist the person.  If someone states something to which they admit they are unsure if it is factual, and you know the truth, kindly clarify for them.  If a person wishes to debate, the obvious social rule is to attack their arguments, not the individual themselves.  I'm sure you see a pattern developing here for when it would be inappropriate to use a harsh correctional tone, or even a cynically sarcastic comment remarking on a persons level of intelligence.  It's appropriate for me to more thoroughly explain the way in which I mean "a harsh correctional response". By this, I mean you identify a persons level of idiocy, and as such you remark to them your observation, followed by an advisement to better educate themselves in the future. Though you may be asking, "Why is that necessary? Why not simply tell them they are wrong?" I'll tell you why, because simply telling someone they are wrong does not cut it. It is not enough. This applies to both  inaccurate statements, as well as stupid and or pointless remarks. Especially when the person is aware that their comment may be inaccurate and or pointless (spam if you would prefer since some would deem my measurement of pointless comments subjective).  The difference between ignorance and  stupidity is clearly distinguished by a personas attitude.  If one is gracefully if igonorant, I imply that they do not know, or make a mistake with no attempts at mischief, or to be funny, or to try and sound intelligent and as such argue even though what they argue is false. Or an opinion that they like to presen as facts. All of these situations are situations in which I believe a little extra "tough-love" is necessary. After all, it is a reasonable assumption to make that people who behave in this manner are people who have been allowed to always say what they want to say when they want to say it, regardless if it is wrong, rude or flat-dumb. They origin of their stupidity is derived from unchecked behavior which allows for immaturity and stupidity to breed within their minds. At which point, a kind correction to this person will not be sufficient since they will have not experienced firm correction, and as such will likely ignore you, laugh or continue on with their idiotic ways.  BUT! Point out not only their faults, but why it makes them seem stupid, and they may take a step back to analyze their behavior.  And so in saying this, let us refer to a few examples where use of my technique would be "appropriate", as well I will illustrate some example responses.  If someone creates a thread simply for the purpose of stating why their day sucked, an appropriate response may be, [quote]This thread is pointless, and provides no discussion value. It is ridiculous and childish to believe that you can just leave your blog here for the sake of having your voice heard, without actually wanting to engage in a discussion on a public forum.[/quote] Now in the case of someone spreading misinformation, one would typically state the correction in a kind manner. But if the persons ignorance evolves into blatant stupidity, advise them of said evolution, [quote]"Hey everyone, my friend told me 343 actually made Halo: Reach, and Bungie is making halo after Halo 6!" "No they're not" "Yes they are idiot, my friend knows one of the guys a Bungie and he said its all true!" "Okay, well firstly let me point out how stupid you sound. Secondly let clearly observe how big of an idiot you're making yourself look. Either you or your friend are behaving in a dumb manner by failing to check your facts. A simply google search would have provided you with answers yet here you are allowing gullible minds to soak up all the garbage you spew so they can go somewhere else and spread the same garbage misinformation. Next time you try and post facts, try pulling your head out of your ass first, you'd be doing yourself a huge favor."[/quote]  At this point you can report the thread and move on. You've done your duty here, and hopefully the person will be so shocked and taken back by your cruel remarks, they will wish to avoid the same embarrassment again, and hopefully next time they'll avoid painting themselves in such a terrible light. Now to discuss a very, VERY common occurrence that plagues nearly every Internet forum and real life debates as well. The misstating of opinion as fact. A vast majority of individuals who are both ignorant and stubborn typically posses clouded minds. They cannot see beyond their own little world. So, when they are ever so passionate about a topic, they are [i]always[/i] right. ALWAYS. Right? Haha, you guessed it. Nope! When this instance occurs, these individuals are often told, "Hey, that's just like, your opinion, man..." And nothing changes. But whether this works or not, knowing you've given it the response it needs, may one day help open that persons sadly confused mind, [quote]Hey, it's great to hear you state your opinion as fact, but if you think you can spoon-feed us that crap you claim to be fact, when really its your opinion, you have another thing coming. Do you realize how truly idiotic and ridiculous you look, trying to, and insisting upon having people take your opinionated word as FACT? No obviously not, since if you did, you wouldn't have wasted all that time spewing crap from your mouth. Know the distinction next time, to save yourself from looking like an idiot.[/quote] These are just some of the different places I've found myself before, and thought to myself, "Has no one ever clearly advised these people how dumb that sounds without sugar-coating it as to not to hurt their feelings?". The goal is not to hurt their feelings. The goal is to take a correction that might otherwise big ignored, add a bit of spice to it, and toss it in their eyes. Maybe then they'll see how silly or idiot their pointless thread, or stupid comment, or arrogant argument might be.  So Community, are these methods too bold and cruel? Or should the practice be carefully utilized as to hopefully help bring about change within some people who would otherwise continue being the centre of their little world, spewing their stupid and idiotic nonsense? NOTE: I am not condoning or advertising that you attempt these methods. [Edited on 08.09.2012 3:40 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Helveck But is it not a disservice to the blatantly ignorant fool who is never given the opportunity to be scorned and shown his idiotic nature?[/quote] I consider Howard Stern to be a self-serving idiot. But I can't deny that there are plenty of people who consider him to be (if not a genius) at least worthy of their attention and time. So, what do I do? I don't listen to the man, I don't know who his sponsors are, I don't contribute to his social-ecostructure, and as a result I am blissfully unaware of anything that is occurring in his career/life. I also gain the benefit of never having my blood pressure raised or risking any rages over any of his antics. Are you suggesting that I would be doing myself and the rest of the world a service if I were to spend any time or effort to convince him and his fans that he's a tool? Because I don't see any possible value in expending energy in such an endeavor.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Helveck But is it not a disservice to the blatantly ignorant fool who is never given the opportunity to be scorned and shown his idiotic nature?[/quote]I see what you're doing here. The sad thing is that what you're saying rings true enough with enough of the community that it is important for us to make sure that everyone is well-aware of why this concept is wrong.

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  • I agree completely. From all the forum boards I visit, this community seems to have the most trouble with this action. However, for some reason I feel that since bungie.net lacks website functions to make a user's presence "known", users feel that HAVE to post. To you and me this may sound absurd, but there are people that want to make sure that everyone else knows they were there in some form or another. This also leads users to posting quick replies that often don't deal with the topic. Or just simply quoting another user and adding nothing to their post. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] x Foman123 x If you think a thread sucks, DON'T POST IN IT. This has been common knowledge on bulletin boards and discussion forums in general for the last thirty years, and yet Bungie.net's community still can't seem to grasp the concept. There is no appropriate response. Not a gentle reminder, not a harsh insult, and not even "report and move on." Just. Don't. Post.[/quote]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] x Foman123 x [/quote]Who are you or any forum ninja to preach to us about the importance, sanctity, and preservation of the most holy of traditions that is a completely on-topic post? Have you seen some forum-ninja's responses to threads?* If we ignore society's, let alone Bungie.net's problems, they will not improve. If a fire breaks out in your home, the logical course of action is not to turn your back, shut your eyes, plug your ears, and utter a chorus of "LA LA LA LA LA LA" that would make even the brattiest of 5-year-olds jealous, but to first put out the fire, and then figure out why it occurred and how it can be prevented in the future. If bad threads, bad posts, bad behaviors, and bad habits are encouraged and played off as something to not worry about or, rather, as someone having harmless fun who needs to be let alone, and aren't looked at as something that needs to be fixed and addressed, then we're going to continue to have these bad posts, threads, habits, and behaviors. Sometimes stupid people need to be told they're saying stupid things (if not that they're just stupid). If someone has blue paint on their forehead, they won't know it until you tell them, or they take a look at themselves** because they won't think anything is out of the ordinary. *I was in the process of finding Forum Ninja off-topic posts but I figured this would be ill-advised considering it's a bit pointless, childish, and also goes against TU's rule. **presumably in a mirror or some other reflection, but that part is irrelevant [Edited on 08.09.2012 4:27 PM PDT]

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  • It's nice to ignore garbage. I do it all the time. But is it not a disservice to the blatantly ignorant fool who is never given the opportunity to be scorned and shown his idiotic nature? [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Recon Number 54 I wish that I could find my post from years back where I suggested that one of the more ignored and powerful features of the site is the "no reply" button.[/quote]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Helveck So, when they are ever so passionate about a topic, they are always right. ALWAYS. Right?[/quote] I really like what you did there.

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  • A very valid point. Of course you are right to some degree, in my opinion. But I would still argue as much as the patience technique works in certain circumstances, so does calling out ones stupid behavior. Once again, this is purely my opinion. The more belligerent and heavy headed individuals don't seek patience. They don't care, they don't listen to direction or respect when someone is trying to kindly take the time to teach them in a very positive manner. It is for these individuals I reserve the preference of stating to them your observations of their stupidity. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SkilPhil To be honest, calling anyone stupid online, no matter how stupid they actually are, isn't a very good way of making someone 'learn'. Remember all the teachers you liked at school (all 2 of them)?, they were the ones that had patience despite your attitude and behavior and you would eventually learn to respect them for that and you would be willing to hear what they have to say. I know an internet forum and a classroom aren't exactly the same thing, but when you call someone out for being stupid, they will instantly get defensive and skim over the rest of your post already knowing what they are going to reply to you. If you just state facts without attacking their logic or thought process, they won't be in a frame of mind to dislike what you are saying, therefore it will at least encourage them to consider your reply. People hate admitting they're wrong, but they especially hate admitting they're wrong to someone who has just insulted them. But that's just like, my opinion, man.[/quote]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] burritosenior [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] x Foman123 x If you think a thread sucks, DON'T POST IN IT.[/quote]So common of knowledge that many of us have indeed done it. But please remember, it has been a year of darkness and dullness. We have tried ignoring the threads. But more and more pop up. Ignoring it is NOT a solution. Shoot, Achronos wouldn't be so fond of his 'forum filter' idea if it were. I'm not saying attacking a person directly is a solution- not at all. But saying that the thing they are doing is stupid? It's the same principle as attacking an argument rather than a person itself while disagreeing with somebody in a discussion. Except this is a different kind of argument. We strive to one day avoid seeing these types of threads without resorting to losing all of OUR fun by avoiding the forum. To do that, we would post in increasingly ''dumb'' threads just how ridiculous they are in the hopes that they will cease to exist... or at least reduce them by stopping that one user from plopping them out. It's a service to them. It's a service to the community. And it's a self-service for our own state of mind, though that is most certainly secondary. And yes, I've chosen to revolve my own comments around the forum rather than the principle in itself Helveck was focusing on. As I feel it is more relevant to me.[/quote]Hang on, burrito; I think you need to recheck your position on this issue. You acknowledge that ignoring a thread you don't like is the right thing to do, but then, somehow, you go on to justify why you continue to post in threads you don't like. Achronos favors a "forum filter" idea [i]precisely because[/i] ignoring a bad thread is the right way to respond to it. The report button is an already-implemented feature that is meant to accomplish this purpose. Yet people still feel the need to post "reported" or "this thread sucks" [i]even after reporting the thread.[/i] If the best way to deal with a bad thread were to post to ridicule the OP and his ideas, Achronos would be looking at automated ways to ridicule the OP and his ideas. Not automated ways to [i]ignore[/i] a bad post or a bad user. How do you not see this? You are not performing a "service" by telling other users that their threads suck. Your opinions are your own and, to a person who has created a thread on something they find interesting, your opinions are worthless. Moreover, posting in a bad thread, as we've said a thousand times, keeps it at the top of the forum instead of letting it sink down in favor of "better" threads, which is exactly what a forum is structured to do. There is no universe in which posting in a thread you think should not have been made is a better response than ignoring it. [Edited on 08.09.2012 4:22 PM PDT]

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  • In my experience, you can't cure stupid. Attempting to do so - especially on a forum with an incredible amount of traffic - will prove to be hopeless and and frustrating. The Flood is the only forum where I've actually run into 'mean' individuals. However, these individuals are generally more intellectually-challenged than the person they are insulting, thus resulting in the 'stupid' and 'mean' users being thrown into the same boat. They seem to go hand-in-hand. Bear in mind that, when you're attacking someone another user's stupid behavior, you're probably making yourself look like an ass in the process. I've never come across a 'tough-love' response to an honest mistake. Stating your point without making it fluffy isn't being harsh on someone, that's just stating the truth in order to help said someone become a better member. There's no need to be excessively harsh on someone for a mistake that they don't even realize they're making. Embarrassing someone for an honest mistake is never the right choice. If you're sincerely concerned about a person making a fool of himself/herself, PM them about it and keep it private. There's usually a way to point out a mistake or something that's frowned upon without making someone feel embarrassed or foolish; however, if there is absolutely [i]no way[/i] to get your point across without practicing the 'tough-love' method, keeping it in the PMs will help someone to avoid public embarrassment, and the fact that you took the time to privately contact the person in question will make him/her take what you say a little more seriously. [Edited on 08.09.2012 4:25 PM PDT]

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    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] burritosenior It's a service to them. It's a service to the community. And it's a self-service for our own state of mind, though that is most certainly secondary. [/quote] I really have to call bull-blam!- on this. This kind of twisted "logic" doesn't get us anywhere and all it does is deter new members from posting in a community that they're obviously excited about, while simultaneously feeding the egos of some of the lifers here. Though we could argue about this all day long and neither of us would change our stance, this is just my two cents.

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  • I wish that I could find my post from years back where I suggested that one of the more ignored and powerful features of the site is the "no reply" button.

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  • To be honest, calling anyone stupid online, no matter how stupid they actually are, isn't a very good way of making someone 'learn'. Remember all the teachers you liked at school (all 2 of them)?, they were the ones that had patience despite your attitude and behavior and you would eventually learn to respect them for that and you would be willing to hear what they have to say. I know an internet forum and a classroom aren't exactly the same thing, but when you call someone out for being stupid, they will instantly get defensive and skim over the rest of your post already knowing what they are going to reply to you. If you just state facts without attacking their logic or thought process, they won't be in a frame of mind to dislike what you are saying, therefore it will at least encourage them to consider your reply. People hate admitting they're wrong, but they especially hate admitting they're wrong to someone who has just insulted them. But that's just like, my opinion, man.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] x Foman123 x If you think a thread sucks, DON'T POST IN IT.[/quote]So common of knowledge that many of us have indeed done it. But please remember, it has been a year of darkness and dullness. We have tried ignoring the threads. But more and more pop up. Ignoring it is NOT a solution. Shoot, Achronos wouldn't be so fond of his 'forum filter' idea if it were. I'm not saying attacking a person directly is a solution- not at all. But saying that the thing they are doing is stupid? It's the same principle as attacking an argument rather than a person itself while disagreeing with somebody in a discussion. Except this is a different kind of argument. We strive to one day avoid seeing these types of threads without resorting to losing all of OUR fun by avoiding the forum. To do that, we would post in increasingly ''dumb'' threads just how ridiculous they are in the hopes that they will cease to exist... or at least reduce them by stopping that one user from plopping them out. It's a service to them. It's a service to the community. And it's a self-service for our own state of mind, though that is most certainly secondary. And yes, I've chosen to revolve my own comments around the forum rather than the principle in itself Helveck was focusing on. As I feel it is more relevant to me.

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  • Ken you are not a cruel person. Sure, the quantity of replies you generate can be annoying to some, but by nature, you are not trying to be a reckless, mindless, stupid person who refuses to take correction when something is wrong or inaccurate. But those are the people to whom I am referring. And those are the people that need a bit more of a bolder advisement given to them. I'm not saying you belittle them or call them stupid. But I'm sure you've seen stupid people before, and when a stupid person is doing something wrong, and they are told its wrong, they may not listen. SO, telling them how stupid or ridiculous they look doing (X) wrong on top of telling them its wrong is something that may cause them to step back and say, "Wait I actually do look pretty dumb acting like that." Do not attack their character or traits, but the stupid action in which they are partaking. [Edited on 08.09.2012 4:06 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] burritosenior I feel sometimes it's necessary to point out stupidity for the sake of preventing it in the future. Mistakes happen. We can't change the past. But we can change the future. If I posted a thread or made a ridiculous claim of an opinion as fact, I would definitely want somebody to tell me to save me from future embarrassment! If I get out of the bathroom with toilet paper on my shoe, my family had better damn well tell me instead of wanting to be nice to me and let me walk around with a toilet-papered shoe all day! Calling somebody out when something is stupid is not only part of society and life in general, but it's also a favor to them. Ideally they'll get the picture that not only are they embarrassing themselves (and us for having to read through the stuff!), but we're trying to help them by being 'mean.' [/quote][quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spartain ken 15 If someone made a mistake, you should call them out and challenge it. But you SHOULDN'T insult their character or their intelligence. Also saying a thread is bad does not mean the OP is a bad/dumb person, people take that way too personally. [/quote]I completely agree with these two posts. You can be critical of someone, or something they do without being an ass. People take things way too personally and that generally begins, what are essentially, wars between groups of members.

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  • Many of your proposed responses, Helveck, are off-topic to the thread's subject matter, and are therefore in violation of that forum rule as well as the one True Underdog already noted. While moderators occasionally post in threads to inform the OP and the Community at large why they are locking the thread, we generally reserve this for rulebreaking threads, not threads that WE think are silly/stupid but don't violate any rules. If you think a thread sucks, DON'T POST IN IT. This has been common knowledge on bulletin boards and discussion forums in general for the last thirty years, and yet Bungie.net's community still can't seem to grasp the concept. There is no appropriate response. Not a gentle reminder, not a harsh insult, and not even "report and move on." Just. Don't. Post. I honestly cannot think of a community that does a worse job at ignoring trolling and anything else it sees as a "bad" thread than we do, and it's shameful. Please do not encourage this kind of behavior by suggesting obnoxious responses to any thread. [Edited on 08.09.2012 4:04 PM PDT]

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  • I think i'll just edit this reply to avoid stirring the pot that has been mentioned. [Edited on 08.09.2012 4:04 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Helveck It seems like every single time you comment on people's behavior in the community, it's strongly and subtlety referenced about problems which you have had because of your incessant posting. I've never had problems with people being unkind to me. Or at least not often enough to be bothered. Or maybe I'm just the jerk? In which according to your wishes, I should be banned. But that's awfully presumptuous of me now isn't it? [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spartain ken 15 I wouldn't try and bring up semantics on here. People are always rude to others they don't like and will make sure the OP of the thread and everyone is aware of it. If the mods really banned all the people from the tongue and cheek stupidity people pull. 75% of the septagon would be banned. (Though some people need it). It is easy to say be kind but the fact is some people here are real jerks and will never learn. [/quote][/quote] No I mean I have notice (and I am sure you have noticed) some people are really mean on here. It is easy to say play nice but some people can't do it. If someone made a mistake, you should call them out and challenge it. But you SHOULDN'T insult their character or their intelligence. Also saying a thread is bad does not mean the OP is a bad/dumb person, people take that way too personally. [Edited on 08.09.2012 3:57 PM PDT]

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  • Thanks True, appreciate it.

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    Unlocking this thread at the OP's request. If it turns into a piling on of any actual individuals, which a fair few people on this board have done in the past, I'm going to lock it again.

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  • There are just a couple inherently hostile personalities here, which really ruins some discussions. The serious problem at hand is the idea that what you read is interpreted exactly how you want it, when in fact, a lot of times, users are miss reading a post. That is the unfortunate side effect due to the fact that we all just don't have the time to be politically and thoroughly correct. Except Recon, he's always thorough. And Foman. Nonetheless, I think if we all were to just acknowledge the moment that someone is being overtly hostile, and just ignore the poison, we can all walk away fine and dandy. Just because someone has something rude, ignorant, or just blatantly against, and possibly wrong in regards to a post you made does not mean you HAVE to have a rebuttal.

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  • I would tell you how much I agree with you but then I'd have people reply to me about how I've either been doing this sort of thing the wrong way or rather how I'm one of the idiots who deserves one of the eloquent cookie-cutter tongue-lashings provided in the OP. I'm used to this sort of thing happening, and so I will remain neutral on the subject.

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    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] burritosenior It's not just justified- it's necessary.[/quote] Not only is this character getting tired, acting like a jerk to someone, regardless of reason, will net you a vacation. As for your "work" Helveck, you're really just stirring the pot with this thread.

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  • It seems like every single time you comment on people's behavior in the community, it's strongly and subtlety referenced about problems which you have had because of your incessant posting. I've never had problems with people being unkind to me. Or at least not often enough to be bothered. Or maybe I'm just the jerk? In which according to your wishes, I should be banned. But that's awfully presumptuous of me now isn't it? [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spartain ken 15 I wouldn't try and bring up semantics on here. People are always rude to others they don't like and will make sure the OP of the thread and everyone is aware of it. If the mods really banned all the people from the tongue and cheek stupidity people pull. 75% of the septagon would be banned. (Though some people need it). It is easy to say be kind but the fact is some people here are real jerks and will never learn. [/quote] [Edited on 08.09.2012 3:48 PM PDT]

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  • May Foman have mercy on my soul, but I agree. I feel sometimes it's necessary to point out stupidity for the sake of preventing it in the future. Mistakes happen. We can't change the past. But we can change the future. If I posted a thread or made a ridiculous claim of an opinion as fact, I would definitely want somebody to tell me to save me from future embarrassment! If I get out of the bathroom with toilet paper on my shoe, my family had better damn well tell me instead of wanting to be nice to me and let me walk around with a toilet-papered shoe all day! Calling somebody out when something is stupid is not only part of society and life in general, but it's also a favor to them. Ideally they'll get the picture that not only are they embarrassing themselves (and us for having to read through the stuff!), but we're trying to help them by being 'mean.' It's not just justified- it's necessary.

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