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8/8/2012 8:16:15 PM
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The Amazing Spiderman sucked so much
Seriously. I hate to repost, but here are my reasons:
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New Uncle Ben was a dick to Peter, and his death was anticlimactic. He never even said his signature line.
Mary-Jane wasn't even in it.
The new villain, Connors, was -blam!- compared to Osborn from the original. They even tried to pull off a schizophrenic thing where Connors talked to himself in the sewer. If you don't remember that, it's because it was stupid, and it was so much more memorable when Osborn talked to his mirror image in the original.
New Aunt Mae was too young.
New Peter was cocky, annoying, and too confident.
There were no memorable scenes or characters. And the animation was horrible when Connors transformed into the lizard.
Spiderman had his mask off way to much.
[i]More will come when I think of it.[/i]
[Edited on 08.08.2012 12:16 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bane The Bug Guy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] black49 No, it was, though I guess technically more of a discussion. Someone (you) stated an opinion with nothing to back it up, "Owned Maybe" wrote a response, you responded back, etcetera etcetera [/quote] You don't need to back up opinions. You only need to back up facts.[/quote]Actually by stating an opinion with nothing backing it up it comes across as a fact. If I were to say "The Avengers sucked" I am essentially saying that my statement is a fact if I do not state why I hate it.
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But web shooters.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] black49 No, it was, though I guess technically more of a discussion. Someone (you) stated an opinion with nothing to back it up, "Owned Maybe" wrote a response, you responded back, etcetera etcetera [/quote] You don't need to back up opinions. You only need to back up facts.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bane The Bug Guy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AMW Godfather A little ***********SPOILERS*********** in the title wouldn't have been so hard, would it?[/quote] It's implied pretty heavily. When you click the thread, it's obvious that there will be spoilers.[/quote]pretty much
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bane The Bug Guy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] black49 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bane The Bug Guy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Owned Maybe I'm going to assume you meant to say, "Only because I've already gone over all your points elsewhere in this thread." Well, I just looked through the entire thread because maybe you were right, but nope. Nothing was addressed. Also, having a different opinion than other people is fine, but if you can't explain why exactly you didn't like it, your opinion might as well be void. And when I say explain it, I mean state why you didn't like it (which you did) and give specific points as to why you didn't like that aspect of the movie or how it could've been better (which you didn't do). Because anyone can just go around saying things like "I disliked this" or "I hated that", but if you can't back it up, you don't have any credibility.[/quote] In the end, an opinion is an opinion. Walking out of this, your's will remain the same, and so will mine.[/quote]Right now you are just trying to draw attention away from the fact you are obviously losing the argument/debate if you didn't already lose.[/quote] It was never an argument/debate. I was merely expressing my opinion.[/quote]No, it was, though I guess technically more of a discussion. Someone (you) stated an opinion with nothing to back it up, "Owned Maybe" wrote a response, you responded back, etcetera etcetera
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AMW Godfather A little ***********SPOILERS*********** in the title wouldn't have been so hard, would it?[/quote] It's implied pretty heavily. When you click the thread, it's obvious that there will be spoilers.
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A little ***********SPOILERS*********** in the title wouldn't have been so hard, would it?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] black49 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bane The Bug Guy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Owned Maybe I'm going to assume you meant to say, "Only because I've already gone over all your points elsewhere in this thread." Well, I just looked through the entire thread because maybe you were right, but nope. Nothing was addressed. Also, having a different opinion than other people is fine, but if you can't explain why exactly you didn't like it, your opinion might as well be void. And when I say explain it, I mean state why you didn't like it (which you did) and give specific points as to why you didn't like that aspect of the movie or how it could've been better (which you didn't do). Because anyone can just go around saying things like "I disliked this" or "I hated that", but if you can't back it up, you don't have any credibility.[/quote] In the end, an opinion is an opinion. Walking out of this, your's will remain the same, and so will mine.[/quote]Right now you are just trying to draw attention away from the fact you are obviously losing the argument/debate if you didn't already lose.[/quote] It was never an argument/debate. I was merely expressing my opinion.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bane The Bug Guy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Owned Maybe I'm going to assume you meant to say, "Only because I've already gone over all your points elsewhere in this thread." Well, I just looked through the entire thread because maybe you were right, but nope. Nothing was addressed. Also, having a different opinion than other people is fine, but if you can't explain why exactly you didn't like it, your opinion might as well be void. And when I say explain it, I mean state why you didn't like it (which you did) and give specific points as to why you didn't like that aspect of the movie or how it could've been better (which you didn't do). Because anyone can just go around saying things like "I disliked this" or "I hated that", but if you can't back it up, you don't have any credibility.[/quote] In the end, an opinion is an opinion. Walking out of this, your's will remain the same, and so will mine.[/quote]Right now you are just trying to draw attention away from the fact you are obviously losing the argument/debate if you didn't already lose.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Owned Maybe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bane The Bug Guy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Owned Maybe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bane The Bug Guy That line was the best part of the movie. Mary-Jane is a better character than Gwen. Old Aunt Mae was better. She was less over-protective, and more worried. Cocky and confident are two different things.[/quote] Nice job addressing almost none of my points and backing up your "points" with nothing at all. Also, yes, cocky and confident are two different things, but "[b]too[/b] confident" and cocky are the same thing. That's what cocky means, you're too confident or overly confident, which is what you originally said.[/quote]Only because I've already gone over all your threads elsewhere in this thread.[/quote] I'm going to assume you meant to say, "Only because I've already gone over all your points elsewhere in this thread." Well, I just looked through the entire thread because maybe you were right, but nope. Nothing was addressed. Also, having a different opinion than other people is fine, but if you can't explain why exactly you didn't like it, your opinion might as well be void. And when I say explain it, I mean state why you didn't like it (which you did) and give specific points as to why you didn't like that aspect of the movie or how it could've been better (which you didn't do). Because anyone can just go around saying things like "I disliked this" or "I hated that", but if you can't back it up, you don't have any credibility.[/quote] In the end, an opinion is an opinion. Walking out of this, your's will remain the same, and so will mine.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bane The Bug Guy Old Aunt Mae was better. She was [b]less over-protective[/b], and more worried. Cocky and confident are two different things.[/quote] Maybe she was more overprotective because she was the ONLY guardian of Peter Parker after Ben died.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bane The Bug Guy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Owned Maybe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bane The Bug Guy That line was the best part of the movie. Mary-Jane is a better character than Gwen. Old Aunt Mae was better. She was less over-protective, and more worried. Cocky and confident are two different things.[/quote] Nice job addressing almost none of my points and backing up your "points" with nothing at all. Also, yes, cocky and confident are two different things, but "[b]too[/b] confident" and cocky are the same thing. That's what cocky means, you're too confident or overly confident, which is what you originally said.[/quote]Only because I've already gone over all your threads elsewhere in this thread.[/quote] I'm going to assume you meant to say, "Only because I've already gone over all your points elsewhere in this thread." Well, I just looked through the entire thread because maybe you were right, but nope. Nothing was addressed. Also, having a different opinion than other people is fine, but if you can't explain why exactly you didn't like it, your opinion might as well be void. And when I say explain it, I mean state why you didn't like it (which you did) and give specific points as to why you didn't like that aspect of the movie or how it could've been better (which you didn't do). Because anyone can just go around saying things like "I disliked this" or "I hated that", but if you can't back it up, you don't have any credibility. [Edited on 08.08.2012 2:24 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] XxJakeMasterxX OP doesn't understand Spider-Man canon.[/quote]
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My views on the movie pretty much summed up right here. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SweetTRIX From those that i'd trust who have seen it, I heard it was entertaining but largely unnecessary, bringing very little of anything new to the movies.[/quote] Also the film was extremely unmemorable for me. Where as I can still quote the Sam Rami Spiderman which I haven't seen for roughly eight years I find myself forgetting basic plot points when looking back at the reboot. In ten years I doubt I'll remember the movie. The film also has a plentiful stash of plot holes which I won't go into.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Owned Maybe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bane The Bug Guy That line was the best part of the movie. Mary-Jane is a better character than Gwen. Old Aunt Mae was better. She was less over-protective, and more worried. Cocky and confident are two different things.[/quote] Nice job addressing almost none of my points and backing up your "points" with nothing at all. Also, yes, cocky and confident are two different things, but "[b]too[/b] confident" and cocky are the same thing. That's what cocky means, you're too confident or overly confident, which is what you originally said.[/quote]Only because I've already gone over all your threads elsewhere in this thread.
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Actually i do think they used the great power with responsibility phrase, but reworded it. It was like "If you have the power to good, it is your responsibility to use it" or something.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bane The Bug Guy That line was the best part of the movie. Mary-Jane is a better character than Gwen. Old Aunt Mae was better. She was less over-protective, and more worried. Cocky and confident are two different things.[/quote] Nice job addressing almost none of my points and backing up your "points" with nothing at all. Also, yes, cocky and confident are two different things, but "[b]too[/b] confident" and cocky are the same thing. That's what cocky means, you're too confident or overly confident, which is what you originally said.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Owned Maybe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bane The Bug Guy New Uncle Ben was a dick to Peter, and his death was anticlimactic. He never even said his signature line.[/quote] So what? I'm glad they left it out. They milked that phrase way too much in the first trilogy. Every movie they had atleast one scene mentioning that phrase. I was like, "come on, alright already, WE GET IT. Shouldn't Peter by now be learning some new life lessons?" His infamous phrase about power and responsibility is not present in the film, but Uncle Ben does inform Peter that he, like his father, has a responsibility to be mature. Remember the message he left on his phone at the end? I'm sorry it wasn't worded the exact same way as the first movie, but it gets the point across just as effectively. [quote]Mary-Jane wasn't even in it.[/quote] So what? Who cares? If the had Mary Jane in it, it would be waaaaaaay too similar to the original trilogy. I'm soooo glad they chose to go a different direction with the love interest. [quote]The new villain, Connors, was -blam!- compared to Osborn from the original. They even tried to pull off a schizophrenic thing where Connors talked to himself in the sewer. If you don't remember that, it's because it was stupid, and it was so much more memorable when Osborn talked to his mirror image in the original.[/quote] I'll give you this point, but I'd consider them about equal. [quote]New Aunt Mae was too young.[/quote] Um, no she wasn't. Not at all. And Sally Fields is a MUCH better actress than the other Aunt May from the original trilogy. Much better casting on this one. [quote]New Peter was cocky, annoying, and too confident.[/quote] Cocky? Are you kidding me? Not at all. Annoying how exactly? Too confident? Way to just repeat "cocky," but in a different way. Peter's character was much more believable this time around. I'd take a socially awkward, nerdy Peter Parker over the dorky, soft spoken Peter Parker from the original trilogy any day. [quote]Spiderman had his mask off way to much.[/quote] Had his mask off too much? Did you see Spiderman 2? Everyone in the whole city pretty much saw his face in that movie. In this one only two did, Gwen Stacy's dad and the kid in the car. Possibly some of the other cops, but we're never led to believe that.[/quote] That line was the best part of the movie. Mary-Jane is a better character than Gwen. Old Aunt Mae was better. She was less over-protective, and more worried. Cocky and confident are two different things.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] theslatcher But you clearly said "These are [u]all[/u] opinions.".[/quote] I meant in the whole thread, not just that reply. But good job. I meant to say "the vast majority are opinions".
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bane The Bug Guy New Uncle Ben was a dick to Peter, and his death was anticlimactic. He never even said his signature line.[/quote] So what? I'm glad they left it out. They milked that phrase way too much in the first trilogy. Every movie they had atleast one scene mentioning that phrase. I was like, "come on, alright already, WE GET IT. Shouldn't Peter by now be learning some new life lessons?" His infamous phrase about power and responsibility is not present in the film, but Uncle Ben does inform Peter that he, like his father, has a responsibility to be mature. Remember the message he left on his phone at the end? I'm sorry it wasn't worded the exact same way as the first movie, but it gets the point across just as effectively. [quote]Mary-Jane wasn't even in it.[/quote] So what? Who cares? If they had Mary Jane in it, it would be waaaaaaay too similar to the original trilogy. I'm soooo glad they chose to go a different direction with the love interest. [quote]The new villain, Connors, was -blam!- compared to Osborn from the original. They even tried to pull off a schizophrenic thing where Connors talked to himself in the sewer. If you don't remember that, it's because it was stupid, and it was so much more memorable when Osborn talked to his mirror image in the original.[/quote] I'll give you this point, but I'd consider them about equal. [quote]New Aunt Mae was too young.[/quote] Um, no she wasn't. Not at all. And Sally Fields is a MUCH better actress than the other Aunt May from the original trilogy. Much better casting on this one. [quote]New Peter was cocky, annoying, and too confident.[/quote] Cocky? Are you kidding me? Not at all. Annoying how exactly? Too confident? Way to just repeat "cocky," but in a different way. Peter's character was much more believable this time around. I'd take a socially awkward, nerdy Peter Parker over the dorky, soft spoken Peter Parker from the original trilogy any day. [quote]Spiderman had his mask off way to much.[/quote] Had his mask off too much? Did you see Spiderman 2? Everyone in the whole city pretty much saw his face in that movie. In this one only three did, Gwen Stacy's dad, the kid in the car, and Dr. Connors. Possibly some of the other cops, but we're never led to believe that. And two of them end up dead or in prison so that leaves one person still in the city who has seen his face and that's the kid. One little kid has seen his face is a big deal to you? What a joke. [Edited on 08.08.2012 2:08 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bane The Bug Guy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] theslatcher [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bane The Bug Guy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] black49 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bane The Bug Guy Mary-Jane wasn't even in it.[/quote]Gwen Stacy was peter parker's first girlfriend anyway.[/quote]These are all opinions.[/quote] What? How is that an opinion? Plus; Spidey is cocky.[/quote] I was referring to "Mary-Jane is overrated IMO".[/quote] But you clearly said "These are [u]all[/u] opinions.".
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Palien90 "He takes his mask off too much"? Did OP even see the old movies? Tobeyman took that mask off ALL THE DAMN TIME.[/quote] Not as much as Andrew Garfield does.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] theslatcher [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bane The Bug Guy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] black49 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bane The Bug Guy Mary-Jane wasn't even in it.[/quote]Gwen Stacy was peter parker's first girlfriend anyway.[/quote]These are all opinions.[/quote] What? How is that an opinion? Plus; Spidey is cocky.[/quote] I was referring to "Mary-Jane is overrated IMO".
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"He takes his mask off too much"? Did OP even see the old movies? Tobeyman took that mask off ALL THE DAMN TIME.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bane The Bug Guy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] black49 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bane The Bug Guy Mary-Jane wasn't even in it.[/quote]Gwen Stacy was peter parker's first girlfriend anyway.[/quote]These are all opinions.[/quote] What? How is that an opinion? Plus; Spidey is cocky. [Edited on 08.08.2012 1:59 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bane The Bug Guy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] black49 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bane The Bug Guy New Uncle Ben was a dick to Peter, and his death was anticlimactic. He never even said his signature line.[/quote] First off, how was he a dick? Second off, his death, imo, was more effective than the one in the original. It is now more directly tied to Peter, because not only does he see it happen in front of him, but to add to that he had the ability to stop the bad guy in the store. Third off, it is a reboot, so of course they are going to try and separate themselves as much as possible from the original.[quote] Mary-Jane wasn't even in it.[/quote]Mary Jane is over rated imo and Gwen Stacy was peter parker's first girlfriend anyway.[quote] The new villain, Connors, was -blam!- compared to Osborn from the original. They even tried to pull off a schizophrenic thing where Connors talked to himself in the sewer. If you don't remember that, it's because it was stupid, and it was so much more memorable when Osborn talked to his mirror image in the original.[/quote]Ditto.[quote] New Aunt Mae was too young.[/quote] That is what people in society refer to as an opinion.[quote] New Peter was cocky, annoying, and too confident.[/quote] Well, to be fair, aren't all teenagers like this? Just because his Uncle Ben gave him the responsibility speech it doesn't make him superman. Change in people takes time.[quote] There were no memorable scenes or characters. And the animation was horrible when Connors transformed into the lizard.[/quote]This is still an opinion[quote] Spiderman had his mask off way to much. [/quote]Opinion.[/quote]These are all opinions. Uncle Ben was a dick because he didn't respect Peter's feelings when toward his father's abandonment. Peter said "he left me" or whatever, and all Uncle Ben said was "how dare you." The real Uncle Ben would have tried to console him.[/quote]Uncle Ben was worked up with emotion and felt offended when Peter said that. [quote]Aunt Mae was like 40. That's not an opinion. She's supposed to be old.[/quote]IDK if I can emphasize this enough. The movie is a reboot, a new direction. Also looks don't always align with age. If Uncle Ben and Aunt May were both fifty years old then maybe she just looked younger than most women, simple.[quote] Spiderman shouldn't take off his mask that much. That's how you get caught.[/quote]Just because he takes off his mask doesn't mean he will get caught. If he was in front of the police or Connors, then sure he will, but in private or just to some random guy, how would that effect him?
