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So.... The Halo 4 Progression System.... Your thoughts

This is the progression system in Halo 4, and to me, it's very cool *Note - Armor Mods are a minor part of gameplay. Examples are an extended radar, having a radar while zoomed in, having more ammo, having an extra grenade. When you get to the max level cap of your Spartan's initial progression branch, you can re-enlist into another specialist branch. The branches are geared towards a specific playstyle. When you re-enlist, you are going through a ten level progression. As you go through that, you are unlocking exclusive weapon skins, armor skins, emblems, and armor mods (allows you to fit your spartan to your playing style). So once you go through the initial curve of the progression, you can re-enlist into these special branches. Example: Suppose I finish the initial progression system, I can re-enlist into a specific branch that suits my playstyle. I enjoy sniping, so I would pick that branch. While I work myself up the progression system, I unlock weapon skins, emblems, armor skins, and an armor mod that will gear towards sniping. It's not prestiege at all. It's mastering a playstyle that you enjoy. Also, just in case a player gets matched up with someone who is more experienced, each map has set loadouts if you do not want to use your list of loadouts.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FatM [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Quantam [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cpl Crosseyes It's funny because Halo 3 wasn't even that good compared to Halo CE and 2. [/quote]Halo 2 was, statistically speaking, than Halo 3. OH, but let's not talk about Reach, huh? Let's not talk about how horrible of a game Reach was. Let's not bother getting into any of that... we should just sit here and make up as many excuses as possible towards why Halo 3 was such a bad, bad game compared to Reach. Of course Reach got rid of those "problems" (that fact that those were even considered "problems" to you makes me know that you must have been very, very butthurt), but it also exterminated a large amount of the Halo population, and that's why Halo: Reach hasn't been first place on XBL, unlike its predecessors Halo 2 and Halo 3, which WERE ON THE TOP FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS EACH. HURRRRR.[/quote] -First part makes no sense, I'll assume you will say better, although Halo 3 did sell more copies, Halo 2 is still the better game. -Halo 3 had its own problems, especially the ranking system -HURR DURR POPULATION HURR DURR Halo Reach's population is higher than 3's, you do realize 3's is a 24hr counter and Reach is live active roster right? And LOL, Halo CE had no ranking system or online mechanic (barring PC), but it is still the most competitive Halo game. So go be butthurt somewhere else.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FatM [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChemicalEnvy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FatM I have a feeling OP is a fanboy, and I'm not getting the full picture... From what you're telling me, it sounds retarded IMO. Can't wait until parties are set up to boost specific branches. Boosting is always fun.[/quote] So having optimism is fanboyism now? Kay... Then I am a fanboy... And how the hell are you going to boost in a system that requires time to play? You can't boost to inheritor can you?[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChemicalEnvy You can't boost to inheritor can you?I'm not even gonna bother...[/quote] I can tell you're some type of "messenger" from the dreaded, loathed 343i forums, and may I mind you those forums carry a very, very bad reputation in, not only the Flood, but any Halo-oriented subcommunities. Having optimism is something you do when you don't know the full situation of something. Since we now know Halo 4's ranking system is going to be almost as -blam!- has Halo: Reach's, and nothing near as good as Halo 3's, there is no room for optimism. ...and just seeing you ask "OMG HOW U BOOOST REACH LEL LOL XD" makes me so incredibly disappointed that you fanboys are so close minded.[/quote] I can tell you are pretty ignorant and have a short temper. My "close-mind" is no where as extreme as your obstinate brain. People like you make me wonder about humanity, and how our race is just becoming intolerant and "pigheaded". None of your "arguments" or "insults", are even mature, and you just depict another stubborn cow. Your way of communicating is completely infantile, and your "self-righteous" talk is just sickening. [Edited on 07.15.2012 10:56 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FatM [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChemicalEnvy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A Needler Rifle Nice, another ranking system that to takes no skill to advance in. Keep catering to the retards 34derp. [/quote] Actually, the better you play, the faster you rank up through the progression. [/quote]... ... I mean... ... I'm just so sick and tired of this bull-blam!- from retards!!!?! Look, a progression system that is based on playtime has no skill involved whatsoever. Just because it takes some scrub 200 hours to achieve a certain rank while it takes me 80 hours means -blam!-. We will still be at that equal rank eventually. It's time based. Time is experience. Remember in Halo 3 where experience points existed? Why do you think there were so many staff captains? Because, sure, they could go and get 3000 experience pints, but they couldn't get past the rank of 29 because they weren't -blam!- good. Saying that a more skilled person will reach a certain rank faster is like saying a cheetah will beat a snail in a 50-foot race. They'll both be there eventually, it's only a matter of [i]time[/i]... not skill.[/quote] awwwwwww baby is not going to be able to boost 8 accounts to 50 in this game.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Quantam [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cpl Crosseyes It's funny because Halo 3 wasn't even that good compared to Halo CE and 2. [/quote]Halo 2 was, statistically speaking, than Halo 3. OH, but let's not talk about Reach, huh? Let's not talk about how horrible of a game Reach was. Let's not bother getting into any of that... we should just sit here and make up as many excuses as possible towards why Halo 3 was such a bad, bad game compared to Reach. Of course Reach got rid of those "problems" (that fact that those were even considered "problems" to you makes me know that you must have been very, very butthurt), but it also exterminated a large amount of the Halo population, and that's why Halo: Reach hasn't been first place on XBL, unlike its predecessors Halo 2 and Halo 3, which WERE ON THE TOP FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS EACH. HURRRRR.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FatM ... I mean... ... I'm just so sick and tired of this bull-blam!- from retards!!!?! Look, a progression system that is based on playtime has no skill involved whatsoever. Just because it takes some scrub 200 hours to achieve a certain rank while it takes me 80 hours means -blam!-. We will still be at that equal rank eventually. It's time based. Time is experience. Remember in Halo 3 where experience points existed? Why do you think there were so many staff captains? Because, sure, they could go and get 3000 experience pints, but they couldn't get past the rank of 29 because they weren't -blam!- good. Saying that a more skilled person will reach a certain rank faster is like saying a cheetah will beat a snail in a 50-foot race. They'll both be there eventually, it's only a matter of [i]time[/i]... not skill.[/quote] Who cares what the visible rank is? Better players will win no matter what. I don't give two -blam!-s what my rank is, as long as I win match after match, I'm ok.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FatM [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChemicalEnvy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FatM I have a feeling OP is a fanboy, and I'm not getting the full picture... From what you're telling me, it sounds retarded IMO. Can't wait until parties are set up to boost specific branches. Boosting is always fun.[/quote] So having optimism is fanboyism now? Kay... Then I am a fanboy... And how the hell are you going to boost in a system that requires time to play? You can't boost to inheritor can you?[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChemicalEnvy You can't boost to inheritor can you?I'm not even gonna bother...[/quote] I can tell you're some type of "messenger" from the dreaded, loathed 343i forums, and may I mind you those forums carry a very, very bad reputation in, not only the Flood, but any Halo-oriented subcommunities. Having optimism is something you do when you don't know the full situation of something. Since we now know Halo 4's ranking system is going to be almost as -blam!- has Halo: Reach's, and nothing near as good as Halo 3's, there is no room for optimism. ...and just seeing you ask "OMG HOW U BOOOST REACH LEL LOL XD" makes me so incredibly disappointed that you fanboys are so close minded.[/quote] Fanboys? We aren't the ones that cry in every Halo 4 related thread because they don't like it, seriously in every thread you bash 343i for no good reason, the butthurt levels are strong in this one.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChemicalEnvy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FatM I have a feeling OP is a fanboy, and I'm not getting the full picture... From what you're telling me, it sounds retarded IMO. Can't wait until parties are set up to boost specific branches. Boosting is always fun.[/quote] So having optimism is fanboyism now? Kay... Then I am a fanboy... And how the hell are you going to boost in a system that requires time to play? You can't boost to inheritor can you?[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChemicalEnvy You can't boost to inheritor can you?I'm not even gonna bother...[/quote] I can tell you're some type of "messenger" from the dreaded, loathed 343i forums, and may I mind you those forums carry a very, very bad reputation in, not only the Flood, but any Halo-oriented subcommunities. Having optimism is something you do when you don't know the full situation of something. Since we now know Halo 4's ranking system is going to be almost as -blam!- has Halo: Reach's, and nothing near as good as Halo 3's, there is no room for optimism. ...and just seeing you ask "OMG HOW U BOOOST REACH LEL LOL XD" makes me so incredibly disappointed that you fanboys are so close minded. [Edited on 07.15.2012 10:44 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cpl Crosseyes [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FatM Why do you think there were so many staff captains? Because, sure, they could go and get 3000 experience pints, but they couldn't get past the rank of 29 because they weren't -blam!- good.[/quote]One of the things that made Reach better than the other Halos was getting rid of that. No more forums, fileshares and pre-game lobbies full of rank trolls and hostile environments. Making rank a non-issue was one of the best things Bungie did to make the community a better place.[/quote] This, ignore him anyway, in every thread he bashes everything 343i related. It's funny because Halo 3 wasn't even that good compared to Halo CE and 2.

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  • I don't care.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FatM Why do you think there were so many staff captains? Because, sure, they could go and get 3000 experience pints, but they couldn't get past the rank of 29 because they weren't -blam!- good.[/quote]One of the things that made Reach better than the other Halos was getting rid of that. No more forums, fileshares and pre-game lobbies full of rank trolls and hostile environments. Making rank a non-issue was one of the best things Bungie did to make the community a better place.

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  • Ah, the everlasting battle between giving players meaningful progression in today's multiplayer world and evening out balance for all. I like the idea of giving out customizations by playstyle, although attaching the mods seems like it could screw with balance they've seemed to be tiny buffs at best. Nothing gamebreaking or even real advantage giving.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChemicalEnvy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A Needler Rifle Nice, another ranking system that to takes no skill to advance in. Keep catering to the retards 34derp. [/quote] Actually, the better you play, the faster you rank up through the progression. [/quote]... ... I mean... ... I'm just so sick and tired of this bull-blam!- from retards!!!?! Look, a progression system that is based on playtime has no skill involved whatsoever. Just because it takes some scrub 200 hours to achieve a certain rank while it takes me 80 hours means -blam!-. We will still be at that equal rank eventually. It's time based. Time is experience. Remember in Halo 3 where experience points existed? Why do you think there were so many staff captains? Because, sure, they could go and get 3000 experience pints, but they couldn't get past the rank of 29 because they weren't -blam!- good. Saying that a more skilled person will reach a certain rank faster is like saying a cheetah will beat a snail in a 50-foot race. They'll both be there eventually, it's only a matter of [i]time[/i]... not skill.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChemicalEnvy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dozen Plague CoD knock-off with MGO sprinkled on it. WTB original ideas.[/quote] This system is more similar to Skyrim than CoD. [/quote]Yea, it actually kinda sounds like a rework of BF3 to me. That was more weapon based, but for example, use a machine gun a lot and unlock things related to support roles. It sounds similar, but different enough to fit Halo. Almost like actual military. You serve a term in one MOS and you can reenlist in another. I like it.

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  • My body is ready

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FatM I have a feeling OP is a fanboy, and I'm not getting the full picture... From what you're telling me, it sounds retarded IMO. Can't wait until parties are set up to boost specific branches. Boosting is always fun.[/quote] So having optimism is fanboyism now? Kay... Then I am a fanboy... And how the hell are you going to boost in a system that requires time to play? You can't boost to inheritor can you? [Edited on 07.15.2012 10:32 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The_Harbinger Armor mods? Those better be disabled in classic slayer.[/quote]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A Needler Rifle Nice, another ranking system that to takes no skill to advance in. Keep catering to the retards 34derp. [/quote]I know right?! Constantly making new accounts minusing my EXP and Becoming a 50 in 5 games is like the only reason I played.

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  • I have a feeling OP is a fanboy, and I'm not getting the full picture... From what you're telling me, it sounds retarded IMO. Can't wait until parties are set up to boost specific branches. Boosting is always fun.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A Needler Rifle Nice, another ranking system that to takes no skill to advance in. Keep catering to the retards 34derp. [/quote] Actually, the better you play, the faster you rank up through the progression.

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  • Sounds like a really good system.

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  • Nice, another ranking system that to takes no skill to advance in. Keep catering to the retards 34derp.

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  • I see that 343 is taking a Battlefield approach, which isn't too bad. [Edited on 07.15.2012 10:23 PM PDT]

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  • all my no.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] General Dripik [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChemicalEnvy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AgileNaruto001 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChemicalEnvy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AgileNaruto001 Ooooo you level up a specific playstyle like Sniping or CQB? Hell yeah that actually does sound pretty fun, hopefully i can look past the COD elements.[/quote] Yeah, 343 said they took an RPG look into things[/quote] Sweet, do we know how many types of playstyles there are?[/quote] Only 2 confirmed right now. Sniper and Vehicular Based combat[/quote]THERES ONE FOR VEHICLES?!!!?!?!?! Excuse me if I'm beating off while typing this but what does the play-style do for vehicles?[/quote] Not sure... I guess no over-heating turrents, but no confirmation

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChemicalEnvy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AgileNaruto001 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChemicalEnvy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AgileNaruto001 Ooooo you level up a specific playstyle like Sniping or CQB? Hell yeah that actually does sound pretty fun, hopefully i can look past the COD elements.[/quote] Yeah, 343 said they took an RPG look into things[/quote] Sweet, do we know how many types of playstyles there are?[/quote] Only 2 confirmed right now. Sniper and Vehicular Based combat[/quote]THERES ONE FOR VEHICLES?!!!?!?!?! Excuse me if I'm beating off while typing this but what does the play-style do for vehicles?

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  • What if you want to master more than one playstyle?

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