[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ramen 6378 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] C0NFUZ3D Who cares what the visible rank is? Better players will win no matter what. I don't give two -blam!-s what my rank is, as long as I win match after match, I'm ok.[/quote] Visible ranks inherently bring in a sense of competition, which is vital if a game wants to have a long multiplayer lifespan. Look at sports. If you couldn't see your team's rankings compared to other teams, it wouldn't be as competitive, and as a result, addicting to keep track of. If you were running a race and all the other runners were invisible to you and you could only see your position on the track, it wouldn't be as competitive. Visibility plays a huge role.[/quote]I'm sorry but all that "competitiveness" has just been a smokescreen for trolling, hostility and in general a very unfriendly community for years. Games can have perfectly ok lifespans based on their own enjoyment and fun value alone. It's not worth the hostile atmosphere those ranks create to give some people an added sense of accomplishment.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] omg a bannana [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Quantam [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] omg a bannana [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Quantam I'll say it again. Tell me, anywhere in COD, where we will see specialization enlistment. And no, not armor mods, specialization enlist, as described in the OP.[/quote]Uh you get points to get whatever you want right when you prestige? [/quote] And how is the specialization thing related to this specifically? Because you get points in a lot of other games, too.[/quote]Name another game that does this then.[/quote] Easy. 343 said they were going to take a "RPG" role to this. Skyrim, BF3 does this, list goes on and on

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Quantam [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] omg a bannana [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Quantam I'll say it again. Tell me, anywhere in COD, where we will see specialization enlistment. And no, not armor mods, specialization enlist, as described in the OP.[/quote]Uh you get points to get whatever you want right when you prestige? [/quote] And how is the specialization thing related to this specifically? Because you get points in a lot of other games, too.[/quote]Name another game that does this then.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] omg a bannana [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Quantam I'll say it again. Tell me, anywhere in COD, where we will see specialization enlistment. And no, not armor mods, specialization enlist, as described in the OP.[/quote]Uh you get points to get whatever you want right when you prestige? [/quote] Is your reading comprehension the size of a 2nd grader?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] omg a bannana [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Quantam I'll say it again. Tell me, anywhere in COD, where we will see specialization enlistment. And no, not armor mods, specialization enlist, as described in the OP.[/quote]Uh you get points to get whatever you want right when you prestige? [/quote] And how is the specialization thing related to this specifically? Because you get points in a lot of other games, too.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FatM [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Quantam Fanboys? We aren't the ones that cry in every Halo 4 related thread because they don't like it, seriously in every thread you bash 343i for no good reason, the butthurt levels are strong in this one. [/quote]Of course you create a three-lined response dishing out your insults and reverse-comebacks, yet you idiots can't come up with a legitimate reason backed by fact why Halo 4 will be so much better than Halo 3, and so, so much better than Reach. Optimism is a fallacy that will kill this franchise. It takes people who criticize and examine facts to make -blam!- happen. Sitting back and letting this game turn into pure -blam!- isn't going to do anything. For some reason you have some idea floating around that empty skull of yours that says that I am saying all of this because I just want to hate and never appreciate. I actually care about the direction of this franchise. You could care less where it goes, as long as it caters to... you. Only to you, because you're a selfish bastard. You don't care about gamers like me. You don't care about the MLG community (and in no way do I associate myself with those -blam!-s). You don't care about anybody but yourself, and as long as you're happy, who cares right? Who cares if all those users who dropped Reach and went to CoD don't return because Halo 4 is Reach 2.0. I guess that's all it comes down to with you [i]fanboys[/i], right? 343i had the opportunity to turn this cluster-blam!- idea of AAs, and the non-motivating ranking system, and the grey maps, and the kill zones the other way around. But no, they continued it. They built upon it. They disregarded everything the majority of the community said (you can count all the users who left Reach, not just people like me who waste their time arguing with morons like you on internet forums) and turned their back on them. The forums... those forums are heavily moderated to keep people from voicing their opinion. It's built from the ground up for [i]fanboys[/i] like you. Knowing that they receive the majority of their feedback from there makes me cringe. Have fun with the game they throw at you. I'm sure you'll spend your 3 hours a day on it for a couple weeks, toss it to the side, then come here and try to argue with people like me who spent over 10 hours a day sometimes on Halo 3 that its so awesome. It's what happened with Reach, and history repeats itself.[/quote] I played the game at RTX, and let me say, it was the best time I had since playing Halo 2 for the first time because it's so reminiscent. So, yeah, I'll have fun playing it for about 3 years. You go have fun raging like you usually do. Your temper is almost laughable. And I am laughing at you for calling "optimism", fanboyism. Like ChemicalEnvy said, your mind is PIGHEADED [Edited on 07.15.2012 11:10 PM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] C0NFUZ3D Who cares what the visible rank is? Better players will win no matter what. I don't give two -blam!-s what my rank is, as long as I win match after match, I'm ok.[/quote] Visible ranks inherently bring in a sense of competition, which is vital if a game wants to have a long multiplayer lifespan. Look at sports. If you couldn't see your team's rankings compared to other teams, it wouldn't be as competitive, and as a result, addicting to keep track of. If you were running a race and all the other runners were invisible to you and you could only see your position on the track, it wouldn't be as competitive. Visibility plays a huge role.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Quantam Fanboys? We aren't the ones that cry in every Halo 4 related thread because they don't like it, seriously in every thread you bash 343i for no good reason, the butthurt levels are strong in this one. [/quote]Of course you create a three-lined response dishing out your insults and reverse-comebacks, yet you idiots can't come up with a legitimate reason backed by fact why Halo 4 will be so much better than Halo 3, and so, so much better than Reach. Optimism is a fallacy that will kill this franchise. It takes people who criticize and examine facts to make -blam!- happen. Sitting back and letting this game turn into pure -blam!- isn't going to do anything. For some reason you have some idea floating around that empty skull of yours that says that I am saying all of this because I just want to hate and never appreciate. I actually care about the direction of this franchise. You could care less where it goes, as long as it caters to... you. Only to you, because you're a selfish bastard. You don't care about gamers like me. You don't care about the MLG community (and in no way do I associate myself with those -blam!-s). You don't care about anybody but yourself, and as long as you're happy, who cares right? Who cares if all those users who dropped Reach and went to CoD don't return because Halo 4 is Reach 2.0. I guess that's all it comes down to with you [i]fanboys[/i], right? 343i had the opportunity to turn this cluster-blam!- idea of AAs, and the non-motivating ranking system, and the grey maps, and the kill zones the other way around. But no, they continued it. They built upon it. They disregarded everything the majority of the community said (you can count all the users who left Reach, not just people like me who waste their time arguing with morons like you on internet forums) and turned their back on them. The forums... those forums are heavily moderated to keep people from voicing their opinion. It's built from the ground up for [i]fanboys[/i] like you. Knowing that they receive the majority of their feedback from there makes me cringe. Have fun with the game they throw at you. I'm sure you'll spend your 3 hours a day on it for a couple weeks, toss it to the side, then come here and try to argue with people like me who spent over 10 hours a day sometimes on Halo 3 that its so awesome. It's what happened with Reach, and history repeats itself.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Quantam I'll say it again. Tell me, anywhere in COD, where we will see specialization enlistment. And no, not armor mods, specialization enlist, as described in the OP.[/quote]Uh you get points to get whatever you want right when you prestige?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Quantam [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] omg a bannana [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChemicalEnvy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] omg a bannana It's the most casual ranking system since Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts.[/quote] This isn't even the ranking system. [/quote]Progression rank w/e I like how they copied Call of Duty though :)[/quote] Tell me, anywhere in COD, where we will see specialization enlistment. And no, not armor mods, specialization enlist, as described in the OP.[/quote] He can't, because it doesn't exist.

I guess that is fine to me. Look forward to it.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] omg a bannana [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Effective Strafe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] omg a bannana [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChemicalEnvy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] omg a bannana It's the most casual ranking system since Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts.[/quote] This isn't even the ranking system. [/quote]Progression rank w/e I like how they copied Call of Duty though :)[/quote] You, sir, are an idiot. They didn't copy CoD, you damn idiot. All you idiots do is claim around with your special catchphrase "THEY COPPEED COD." I used to puke on you kids in Halo 2, and now you think you know Halo? Please[/quote]>Not proving me wrong >Calling me a kid Okay you fan nerd[/quote] I'll say it again. Tell me, anywhere in COD, where we will see specialization enlistment. And no, not armor mods, specialization enlist, as described in the OP.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] omg a bannana [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Effective Strafe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] omg a bannana [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChemicalEnvy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] omg a bannana It's the most casual ranking system since Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts.[/quote] This isn't even the ranking system. [/quote]Progression rank w/e I like how they copied Call of Duty though :)[/quote] You, sir, are an idiot. They didn't copy CoD, you damn idiot. All you idiots do is claim around with your special catchphrase "THEY COPPEED COD." I used to puke on you kids in Halo 2, and now you think you know Halo? Please[/quote]>Not proving me wrong >Calling me a kid Okay you fan nerd[/quote] Prove yourself right, first, sir.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Effective Strafe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] omg a bannana [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChemicalEnvy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] omg a bannana It's the most casual ranking system since Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts.[/quote] This isn't even the ranking system. [/quote]Progression rank w/e I like how they copied Call of Duty though :)[/quote] You, sir, are an idiot. They didn't copy CoD, you damn idiot. All you idiots do is claim around with your special catchphrase "THEY COPPEED COD." I used to puke on you kids in Halo 2, and now you think you know Halo? Please[/quote]>Not proving me wrong >Calling me a kid Okay you fan nerd

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChemicalEnvy I can tell you are pretty ignorant and have a short temper. My "close-mind" is no where as extreme as your obstinate brain. People like you make me wonder about humanity, and how our race is just becoming intolerant and "pigheaded". None of your "arguments" or "insults", are even mature, and you just depict another stubborn cow. Your way of communicating is completely infantile, and your "self-righteous" talk is just sickening. [/quote] I'm going to have to use that one day.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] omg a bannana [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChemicalEnvy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] omg a bannana It's the most casual ranking system since Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts.[/quote] This isn't even the ranking system. [/quote]Progression rank w/e I like how they copied Call of Duty though :)[/quote] Tell me, anywhere in COD, where we will see specialization enlistment. And no, not armor mods, specialization enlist, as described in the OP.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FatM [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Quantam [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cpl Crosseyes It's funny because Halo 3 wasn't even that good compared to Halo CE and 2. [/quote]Halo 2 was, statistically speaking, than Halo 3. OH, but let's not talk about Reach, huh? Let's not talk about how horrible of a game Reach was. Let's not bother getting into any of that... we should just sit here and make up as many excuses as possible towards why Halo 3 was such a bad, bad game compared to Reach. Of course Reach got rid of those "problems" (that fact that those were even considered "problems" to you makes me know that you must have been very, very butthurt), but it also exterminated a large amount of the Halo population, and that's why Halo: Reach hasn't been first place on XBL, unlike its predecessors Halo 2 and Halo 3, which WERE ON THE TOP FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS EACH. HURRRRR.[/quote]You know what game people play in first place? CoD. Do you really want the players who like CoD better than Halo. THOSE kind of players coming to Halo? Face it. Halo won't be #1 again because it's the game that defined the last generation. More kids grow up with CoD as 'the' game to play online now. Good riddance to the type of players that would leave a game because they can't slap their e-peen in peoples' face with a visible ranking system.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] omg a bannana [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChemicalEnvy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] omg a bannana It's the most casual ranking system since Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts.[/quote] This isn't even the ranking system. [/quote]Progression rank w/e I like how they copied Call of Duty though :)[/quote] You, sir, are an idiot. They didn't copy CoD, you damn idiot. All you idiots do is claim around with your special catchphrase "THEY COPPEED COD." I used to puke on you kids in Halo 2, and now you think you know Halo? Please [Edited on 07.15.2012 11:01 PM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChemicalEnvy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] omg a bannana It's the most casual ranking system since Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts.[/quote] This isn't even the ranking system. [/quote]Progression rank w/e I like how they copied Call of Duty though :)

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] recklessfire [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChemicalEnvy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FatM [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChemicalEnvy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FatM I have a feeling OP is a fanboy, and I'm not getting the full picture... From what you're telling me, it sounds retarded IMO. Can't wait until parties are set up to boost specific branches. Boosting is always fun.[/quote] So having optimism is fanboyism now? Kay... Then I am a fanboy... And how the hell are you going to boost in a system that requires time to play? You can't boost to inheritor can you?[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChemicalEnvy You can't boost to inheritor can you?I'm not even gonna bother...[/quote] I can tell you're some type of "messenger" from the dreaded, loathed 343i forums, and may I mind you those forums carry a very, very bad reputation in, not only the Flood, but any Halo-oriented subcommunities. Having optimism is something you do when you don't know the full situation of something. Since we now know Halo 4's ranking system is going to be almost as -blam!- has Halo: Reach's, and nothing near as good as Halo 3's, there is no room for optimism. ...and just seeing you ask "OMG HOW U BOOOST REACH LEL LOL XD" makes me so incredibly disappointed that you fanboys are so close minded.[/quote] I can tell you are pretty ignorant and have a short temper. My "close-mind" is no where as extreme as your obstinate brain. [/quote] lol did you really just say you couldn't boost to inheritor in Reach? That one statement is diminishing your argument a lot. You should edit that out.[/quote] Other than AFKing in Firefight, which you will not be allowed to do in Spartan Ops.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] omg a bannana It's the most casual ranking system since Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts.[/quote] This isn't even the ranking system.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChemicalEnvy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FatM [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChemicalEnvy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FatM I have a feeling OP is a fanboy, and I'm not getting the full picture... From what you're telling me, it sounds retarded IMO. Can't wait until parties are set up to boost specific branches. Boosting is always fun.[/quote] So having optimism is fanboyism now? Kay... Then I am a fanboy... And how the hell are you going to boost in a system that requires time to play? You can't boost to inheritor can you?[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChemicalEnvy You can't boost to inheritor can you?I'm not even gonna bother...[/quote] I can tell you're some type of "messenger" from the dreaded, loathed 343i forums, and may I mind you those forums carry a very, very bad reputation in, not only the Flood, but any Halo-oriented subcommunities. Having optimism is something you do when you don't know the full situation of something. Since we now know Halo 4's ranking system is going to be almost as -blam!- has Halo: Reach's, and nothing near as good as Halo 3's, there is no room for optimism. ...and just seeing you ask "OMG HOW U BOOOST REACH LEL LOL XD" makes me so incredibly disappointed that you fanboys are so close minded.[/quote] I can tell you are pretty ignorant and have a short temper. My "close-mind" is no where as extreme as your obstinate brain. [/quote] lol did you really just say you couldn't boost to inheritor in Reach? That one statement is diminishing your argument a lot. You should edit that out.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] omg a bannana It's the most casual ranking system since Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts.[/quote] Define casual.

It's the most casual ranking system since Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FatM [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Quantam [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cpl Crosseyes It's funny because Halo 3 wasn't even that good compared to Halo CE and 2. [/quote]Halo 2 was, statistically speaking, than Halo 3. OH, but let's not talk about Reach, huh? Let's not talk about how horrible of a game Reach was. Let's not bother getting into any of that... we should just sit here and make up as many excuses as possible towards why Halo 3 was such a bad, bad game compared to Reach. Of course Reach got rid of those "problems" (that fact that those were even considered "problems" to you makes me know that you must have been very, very butthurt), but it also exterminated a large amount of the Halo population, and that's why Halo: Reach hasn't been first place on XBL, unlike its predecessors Halo 2 and Halo 3, which WERE ON THE TOP FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS EACH. HURRRRR.[/quote] Halo 3 really..wasn't that good. I got more enjoyment out of 2 and Reach. 1 is a given.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FatM [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Quantam [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cpl Crosseyes It's funny because Halo 3 wasn't even that good compared to Halo CE and 2. [/quote]Halo 2 was, statistically speaking, than Halo 3. OH, but let's not talk about Reach, huh? Let's not talk about how horrible of a game Reach was. Let's not bother getting into any of that... we should just sit here and make up as many excuses as possible towards why Halo 3 was such a bad, bad game compared to Reach. Of course Reach got rid of those "problems" (that fact that those were even considered "problems" to you makes me know that you must have been very, very butthurt), but it also exterminated a large amount of the Halo population, and that's why Halo: Reach hasn't been first place on XBL, unlike its predecessors Halo 2 and Halo 3, which WERE ON THE TOP FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS EACH. HURRRRR.[/quote] -First part makes no sense, I'll assume you will say better, although Halo 3 did sell more copies, Halo 2 is still the better game. -Halo 3 had its own problems, especially the ranking system -HURR DURR POPULATION HURR DURR Halo Reach's population is higher than 3's, you do realize 3's is a 24hr counter and Reach is live active roster right? And LOL, Halo CE had no ranking system or online mechanic (barring PC), but it is still the most competitive Halo game. So go be butthurt somewhere else.