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7/16/2012 5:25:52 AM
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So.... The Halo 4 Progression System.... Your thoughts
This is the progression system in Halo 4, and to me, it's very cool
*Note - Armor Mods are a minor part of gameplay. Examples are an extended radar, having a radar while zoomed in, having more ammo, having an extra grenade.
When you get to the max level cap of your Spartan's initial progression branch, you can re-enlist into another specialist branch. The branches are geared towards a specific playstyle. When you re-enlist, you are going through a ten level progression. As you go through that, you are unlocking exclusive weapon skins, armor skins, emblems, and armor mods (allows you to fit your spartan to your playing style).
So once you go through the initial curve of the progression, you can re-enlist into these special branches.
Example: Suppose I finish the initial progression system, I can re-enlist into a specific branch that suits my playstyle. I enjoy sniping, so I would pick that branch. While I work myself up the progression system, I unlock weapon skins, emblems, armor skins, and an armor mod that will gear towards sniping.
It's not prestiege at all. It's mastering a playstyle that you enjoy.
Also, just in case a player gets matched up with someone who is more experienced, each map has set loadouts if you do not want to use your list of loadouts.
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My thoughts are kill it with fire.
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Sounds almost like an RPG. Thats awesome, not annoying like Prestige in CoD.
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I won't be doing any kind of enlistment deal. Not gunna lose everything just to get it back or whatever. Just give me a 1-50 ranking system and I'll be good.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Chupanebre627 Man, how many people are gonna be snipers. Dear god the horror.[/quote] I was under the impression that you can't spawn with the best power weapons, i.e. Rocket Launchers and Sniper Rifles.
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Sounds good to me. People seem to be missing that games will still have map/gametype specific default loadouts. The seasoned player doesn't have access to better weapons, like CoD, he just able to "mix and match" the weapons already available to everyone. Think of the progression as horizontal, not vertical.
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Man, how many people are gonna be snipers. Dear god the horror.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wikked Navajoe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CookieMan It sounds good to me. It's not universal, it's leveling up in a playstyle via playing it.[/quote][/quote]
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Meh, I guess it's all right(doesn't know squat)....I'm just gonna play, I win I win and I lose then I lose....don't really matter to me.
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[REDACTED, FORGOT TO QUOTE] Anyway... Awesome. [Edited on 07.17.2012 2:24 AM PDT]
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That sounds awesome! I presume progression would stack though - so re-enlisting wouldn't take away previous unlocks, right?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darkside Eric [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Methew [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darkside Eric It doesn't matter that they can't customize a Loadout with it. It doesn't matter that they can't decide to replace the DMR + Light Shield combo with a BR + Light Shield combo.[/quote] Then I suppose H4 doesn't have a weapon unlock progression system.[/quote] Weapons were just an example. The principle applies to anything that can be unlocked. Someone who isn't of the required level/progress should not be able to use a mechanic that requires a certain level/progress unless they earn it through gameplay.[/quote] Then I suppose that the only unlocks in H4 are cosmetic. And those are locked off to players who haven't unlocked them. [Edited on 07.17.2012 1:01 AM PDT]
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I don't have enough details to make a final verdict, but I don't like the sound of this. One person shouldn't have an advantage over the other based on time spent in the game.
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So it's kind of like Skyrim? Awesome, I've wanted something like this in Halo for years.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Methew [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darkside Eric It doesn't matter that they can't customize a Loadout with it. It doesn't matter that they can't decide to replace the DMR + Light Shield combo with a BR + Light Shield combo.[/quote] Then I suppose H4 doesn't have a weapon unlock progression system.[/quote] Weapons were just an example. The principle applies to anything that can be unlocked. Someone who isn't of the required level/progress should not be able to use a mechanic that requires a certain level/progress unless they earn it through gameplay.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darkside Eric It doesn't matter that they can't customize a Loadout with it. It doesn't matter that they can't decide to replace the DMR + Light Shield combo with a BR + Light Shield combo.[/quote] Then I suppose H4 doesn't have a weapon unlock progression system.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Methew [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darkside Eric You didn't unlock it. I did. You should not be able to use it off spawn in the same way I can. Why? Because I unlocked it. You didn't.[/quote] And they can't use it in the same way that you can. They can't create a custom loadout with it. They have to use the prebuilt ones that 343 provides.[/quote] Methew. Seriously. It doesn't matter that they can't customize a Loadout with it. It doesn't matter that they can't decide to replace the DMR + Light Shield combo with a BR + Light Shield combo. What matters is that Light Shield required the player to hit Level 3 but because it's part of a default Loadout a Level 1 player can use it. Default Loadouts should be the bare minimum, aka unlocked to [i]everyone[/i], gear and weapons. Why? Because that is what promotes playing more to progress to unlock stuff, so that you don't have to use the bare minimum any longer. If you aren't Level 3 or higher, you shouldn't be able to use a Level 3 item without earning it via progression or by picking it up off of a dead body. Period.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darkside Eric You didn't unlock it. I did. You should not be able to use it off spawn in the same way I can. Why? Because I unlocked it. You didn't.[/quote] And they can't use it in the same way that you can. They can't create a custom loadout with it. They have to use the prebuilt ones that 343 provides.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] P3P5I [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darkside Eric Halo is certainly not Quake/Unreal/GoldenEye 007 related anymore. At least, not nearly as much as it used to be.[/quote]Shame. Ah well, time to bury the franchise and move on to better pastures. I guess this gives me an excuse to sell my Xbox now. *gets off Halo boat* *boards Planetside 2 boat*[/quote] I've already long been on the League of Legends boat. I haven't touched my 360 in forever, save for that small stint with ME3 multiplayer and like 3 weeks with Skyrim. Although one good thing (hopefully) that can come out of Halo 4 becoming more... "RPG~y" is that it might have better evolving gameplay (if they constantly or at least consistently) patch/re~balance things than it ever has had before.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kashmir A17 I really couldn't care less how you get your meaningless number/title next to your name[/quote] Someone didn't read the OP.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darkside Eric Halo is certainly not Quake/Unreal/GoldenEye 007 related anymore. At least, not nearly as much as it used to be.[/quote]Shame. Ah well, time to bury the franchise and move on to better pastures. I guess this gives me an excuse to sell my Xbox now. *gets off Halo boat* *boards Planetside 2 boat* [Edited on 07.17.2012 12:20 AM PDT]
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I'm up for it, sounds interesting.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] P3P5I [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darkside Eric [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] P3P5I What in the world is Halo becoming.[/quote] TRIBES Transformers: War for Cybertron Battlefield Call of Duty Shadowrun Take your pick.[/quote][url=http://images.wikia.com/souleater/images/3/34/Excalibur_Reaction_Hiro.jpg]ehhhhh...[/url][/quote] Halo is certainly not Quake/Unreal/GoldenEye 007 related anymore. At least, not nearly as much as it used to be.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darkside Eric [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] P3P5I What in the world is Halo becoming.[/quote] TRIBES Transformers: War for Cybertron Battlefield Call of Duty Shadowrun Take your pick.[/quote][url=http://images.wikia.com/souleater/images/3/34/Excalibur_Reaction_Hiro.jpg]ehhhhh...[/url]
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i just want -blam!- levels again. I want winning to be an important aspect again.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] P3P5I What in the world is Halo becoming.[/quote] An awesome game series, which it has been since 2001.
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I want [b][i]ALL[/b][/i] the armour.
