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7/10/2012 8:15:13 PM
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Are the police too heavy handed?
Of course this is subjective to your place of residence.
It'll be interesting to get a few opinions.
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meh they're hands weigh about 38 grams give or take
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Constable Banana [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bansheethekilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Constable Banana [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A Good Troll [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Constable Banana Clearly things are different in America. We are only set up to watch for traffic violations (no insurance, no MOT, DUI etc.) if nothing better is to be done. Otherwise, we crack down on traffic violations if we happen to come across one while patrolling. Just for clarity, in British.[/quote] As an example, a few weeks ago the local cops decided to set up a traffic sting near the exit to my neighborhood - inside the neighborhood not on the main street. The speed limit is 25mph throughout even though near the exit for about a half mile there are no homes on the street for beautification purposes. They had about ten officers hiding on an off-street - whenever they would radar someone going over, they'd send a cop off to chase them down. When I went by, they had four cars pulled over. They did this for over five hours - I left at 7:30 and they were still there at 12:30 when I came home for lunch. Dedicating 10 officers to running speed traps in one area just seemed like abuse to me. They told my neighbor who got pulled the HOA had complained about high rates of speed - when we contacted the HOA they said that they had made no such request for officers to run radar.[/quote] ... That's hard to wrap my head around really. That's a gross misuse of resources and a waste of police time, which not to mention is a friggin' crime. I'm glad I can say my colleagues and I wouldn't ever do something so flat out retarded. It would appear the police in your area are... Well... Asshats.[/quote]no offense, banana, but alot of officers i've seen abuse their power because people dont know or stick up for there right , or the officer makes their own[/quote] None taken. I can gladly say I'm a cop for the right reason.[/quote]i can respect a cop who doesnt abuse his badge.
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No, in my experience they're not heavy-handed enough.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bansheethekilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Constable Banana [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A Good Troll [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Constable Banana Clearly things are different in America. We are only set up to watch for traffic violations (no insurance, no MOT, DUI etc.) if nothing better is to be done. Otherwise, we crack down on traffic violations if we happen to come across one while patrolling. Just for clarity, in British.[/quote] As an example, a few weeks ago the local cops decided to set up a traffic sting near the exit to my neighborhood - inside the neighborhood not on the main street. The speed limit is 25mph throughout even though near the exit for about a half mile there are no homes on the street for beautification purposes. They had about ten officers hiding on an off-street - whenever they would radar someone going over, they'd send a cop off to chase them down. When I went by, they had four cars pulled over. They did this for over five hours - I left at 7:30 and they were still there at 12:30 when I came home for lunch. Dedicating 10 officers to running speed traps in one area just seemed like abuse to me. They told my neighbor who got pulled the HOA had complained about high rates of speed - when we contacted the HOA they said that they had made no such request for officers to run radar.[/quote] ... That's hard to wrap my head around really. That's a gross misuse of resources and a waste of police time, which not to mention is a friggin' crime. I'm glad I can say my colleagues and I wouldn't ever do something so flat out retarded. It would appear the police in your area are... Well... Asshats.[/quote]no offense, banana, but alot of officers i've seen abuse their power because people dont know or stick up for there right , or the officer makes their own[/quote] None taken. I can gladly say I'm a cop for the right reason.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Constable Banana ... That's hard to wrap my head around really. That's a gross misuse of resources and a waste of police time, which not to mention is a friggin' crime. I'm glad I can say my colleagues and I wouldn't ever do something so flat out retarded. It would appear the police in your area are... Well... Asshats.[/quote] It isn't like I don't mind cops running radar or writing traffic tickets - it has its place, especially in areas with previous problems with accidents or driver error. I've gotten tickets that I deserved. But as I've grown up, I've seen the cost of tickets double in about seven years as the money people make has remained flat. At $250 a ticket, plus the inevitable spike in insurance, it can really hurt a person's livelihood. I could care less about paying the ticket - other than the principle behind it - but for a lot people living paycheck to paycheck it can blow their budget out of the water. At some time or another, we've all made a mistake driving - not paying attention and speeding, rolling through a stop sign, what have you. No one accidently hits their wife repeatedly or accidently is selling crack cocaine on the corner.
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In some cases yes, but in the majority I think no.
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In USA, yeah.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Constable Banana [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A Good Troll [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Constable Banana Clearly things are different in America. We are only set up to watch for traffic violations (no insurance, no MOT, DUI etc.) if nothing better is to be done. Otherwise, we crack down on traffic violations if we happen to come across one while patrolling. Just for clarity, in British.[/quote] As an example, a few weeks ago the local cops decided to set up a traffic sting near the exit to my neighborhood - inside the neighborhood not on the main street. The speed limit is 25mph throughout even though near the exit for about a half mile there are no homes on the street for beautification purposes. They had about ten officers hiding on an off-street - whenever they would radar someone going over, they'd send a cop off to chase them down. When I went by, they had four cars pulled over. They did this for over five hours - I left at 7:30 and they were still there at 12:30 when I came home for lunch. Dedicating 10 officers to running speed traps in one area just seemed like abuse to me. They told my neighbor who got pulled the HOA had complained about high rates of speed - when we contacted the HOA they said that they had made no such request for officers to run radar.[/quote] ... That's hard to wrap my head around really. That's a gross misuse of resources and a waste of police time, which not to mention is a friggin' crime. I'm glad I can say my colleagues and I wouldn't ever do something so flat out retarded. It would appear the police in your area are... Well... Asshats.[/quote]no offense, banana, but alot of officers i've seen abuse their power because people dont know or stick up for there right , or the officer makes their own
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I see a lot of bad police rep on the internet, overall I don't think so.
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Not only they use excessive force but they're corrupt as hell. I live in Chicago btw.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A Good Troll [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Constable Banana Clearly things are different in America. We are only set up to watch for traffic violations (no insurance, no MOT, DUI etc.) if nothing better is to be done. Otherwise, we crack down on traffic violations if we happen to come across one while patrolling. Just for clarity, in British.[/quote] As an example, a few weeks ago the local cops decided to set up a traffic sting near the exit to my neighborhood - inside the neighborhood not on the main street. The speed limit is 25mph throughout even though near the exit for about a half mile there are no homes on the street for beautification purposes. They had about ten officers hiding on an off-street - whenever they would radar someone going over, they'd send a cop off to chase them down. When I went by, they had four cars pulled over. They did this for over five hours - I left at 7:30 and they were still there at 12:30 when I came home for lunch. Dedicating 10 officers to running speed traps in one area just seemed like abuse to me. They told my neighbor who got pulled the HOA had complained about high rates of speed - when we contacted the HOA they said that they had made no such request for officers to run radar.[/quote] Police are often given grants or requested to police a certain area. Most definitely if an emergency were to pop up, they'd leave. The police here were given a grant to stand at 4-way stops to check that people had their seatbelts on. Funny thing is, even with all those cops standing there being as obvious as can be, people still got ticketed for not wearing seatbelts. My neighborhood also had hoodlums that would race or speed down the road. We have little kids playing in their yards and these d-bags are speeding by. We call complained about it and the cops went door to door explaining how the dirtbikes they were riding weren't street legal and speeding would not be tolerated. They also did rounds through the neighborhood to catch any speeders. Since doing so, the d-bags take their crazy stunts elsewhere. Job successful.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A Good Troll [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Constable Banana Clearly things are different in America. We are only set up to watch for traffic violations (no insurance, no MOT, DUI etc.) if nothing better is to be done. Otherwise, we crack down on traffic violations if we happen to come across one while patrolling. Just for clarity, in British.[/quote] As an example, a few weeks ago the local cops decided to set up a traffic sting near the exit to my neighborhood - inside the neighborhood not on the main street. The speed limit is 25mph throughout even though near the exit for about a half mile there are no homes on the street for beautification purposes. They had about ten officers hiding on an off-street - whenever they would radar someone going over, they'd send a cop off to chase them down. When I went by, they had four cars pulled over. They did this for over five hours - I left at 7:30 and they were still there at 12:30 when I came home for lunch. Dedicating 10 officers to running speed traps in one area just seemed like abuse to me. They told my neighbor who got pulled the HOA had complained about high rates of speed - when we contacted the HOA they said that they had made no such request for officers to run radar.[/quote] ... That's hard to wrap my head around really. That's a gross misuse of resources and a waste of police time, which not to mention is a friggin' crime. I'm glad I can say my colleagues and I wouldn't ever do something so flat out retarded. It would appear the police in your area are... Well... Asshats.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MyNameIsCharlie In the USA, they can be. There are lots of stories about bullies with badges, who get away with murder simply because people defend the police no matter what.[/quote] The peole that get shot always have a good reason for it.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Constable Banana Clearly things are different in America. We are only set up to watch for traffic violations (no insurance, no MOT, DUI etc.) if nothing better is to be done. Otherwise, we crack down on traffic violations if we happen to come across one while patrolling. Just for clarity, in British.[/quote] As an example, a few weeks ago the local cops decided to set up a traffic sting near the exit to my neighborhood - inside the neighborhood not on the main street. The speed limit is 25mph throughout even though near the exit for about a half mile there are no homes on the street for beautification purposes. They had about ten officers hiding on an off-street - whenever they would radar someone going over, they'd send a cop off to chase them down. When I went by, they had four cars pulled over. They did this for over five hours - I left at 7:30 and they were still there at 12:30 when I came home for lunch. Dedicating 10 officers to running speed traps in one area just seemed like abuse to me. They told my neighbor who got pulled the HOA had complained about high rates of speed - when we contacted the HOA they said that they had made no such request for officers to run radar. [Edited on 07.10.2012 12:36 PM PDT]
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Yes, in my state, they are.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MyNameIsCharlie In the USA, they can be. There are lots of stories about bullies with badges, who get away with murder simply because people defend the police no matter what.[/quote] True.
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Maybe if they knew they were appreciated they wouldn't do all of these things you accuse them of. Working long hours, risking your life, and getting nothing in return but a steady paycheck and spit on their faces. How dare you, Flood. Do you want brutality and abuse to stop? Be nice, and appreciate what they do.
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I've seen a few, but in my area, most cops are down to earth and willing to help out.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Constable Banana [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] coolmike699 I think the law is too heavy handed. Not necessarily the cops themselves (although I would support measures to make them more approachable). [/quote] Care to elaborate? [/quote] I think we give out extremely harsh penalties for crimes that don't deserve them. I don't think marijuana posession should be an arrestable offense, for example. But it is, and we end up arresting mostly young black or hispanic men disproportionately. The law promotes toughness where toughness isn't always needed, and society promotes more toughness against particular groups.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Constable Banana [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] JohnMarstonDies [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MyNameIsCharlie In the USA, they can be. There are lots of stories about bullies with badges, who get away with murder simply because people defend the police no matter what.[/quote] Police are like that everywhere. What do you expect happens when people get that much authority?[/quote] Careful, buddy. I am a police officer... And I sure as hell am not a bully.[/quote] Sure talk like one. I'm not saying all cops are bad, I'm saying there are cops who are bad, in some places maybe even the majority.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A Good Troll I fail to see a link between rolling through stop signs and murder/theft/robbery/rape. [/quote] Dude rolls through stop sign, hits car, car flips and kills occupants. Dude gets manslaughter charges potentially.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Constable Banana [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Cheese Lady To generalize cops is showing one's stupidity. My cousin is a cop. He's awesome. My former softball coach is a cop. He's a dumb douche bag.[/quote] Implying we are judging personality. We are judging performance.[/quote] I'm stating exactly that. My cousin is a deputy marshal. The softball coach, I still have no idea how he's a cop. Lazy, abuses power, dumb as a box of rocks.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] coolmike699 I think the law is too heavy handed. Not necessarily the cops themselves (although I would support measures to make them more approachable). [/quote] Care to elaborate?
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I think the law is too heavy handed. Not necessarily the cops themselves (although I would support measures to make them more approachable).
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A Good Troll I fail to see a link between rolling through stop signs and murder/theft/robbery/rape. Fact of the matter is, when you've set up a cop out on the street for 8 hours so he can write forty speeding tickets - that isn't set up to protect anyone. That is done for money. In those 8 hours, he could have been patrolling bad neighborhoods, cracking down on hard drug sales, prostitution, and domestic violence. [/quote] Clearly things are different in America. We are only set up to watch for traffic violations (no insurance, no MOT, DUI etc.) if nothing better is to be done. Otherwise, we crack down on traffic violations if we happen to come across one while patrolling. Just for clarity, in British.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Constable Banana [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A Good Troll [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Constable Banana [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A Good Troll Spend too much time writing traffic tickets intead of actually fighting crime where I am.[/quote] Implying a traffic violation isn't a crime.[/quote] Worthy of their time? No. Oh noes, someone rolled through a stop sign at 5mph. Time to write a $240 ticket to shore up the city's coffers.[/quote] Crime is crime. If people are allowed to violate minor crimes without repurcussions then it can only lead to worse crime.[/quote] I fail to see a link between rolling through stop signs and murder/theft/robbery/rape. Fact of the matter is, when you've set up a cop out on the street for 8 hours so he can write forty speeding tickets - that isn't set up to protect anyone. That is done for money. In those 8 hours, he could have been patrolling bad neighborhoods, cracking down on hard drug sales, prostitution, and domestic violence. [Edited on 07.10.2012 12:23 PM PDT]
