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6/28/2012 6:52:29 PM
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Germany bans circumcisision = Unhappy people
[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/27/circumcision-ruling-germany-muslim-jewish]German court rules that procedure is bodily harm and contravenes right to choose religion in later life[/url]
Do you agree with Germany on banning the practice? Do you wish you had the choice of what you wanted to do instead of living with your parents choice?
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Does the law just ban it being done at birth or without one's consent? Because there are certain medical conditions in which circumcision is the best or only treatment.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] slayer2142 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sir Charles [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] slayer2142 When do you consider the fetus a human? The moment of conception? 1 month? 3 months? Time is everything.[/quote] Conception. That is the time at which the baby begins to develop. Without that crucial moment, the baby could never be. The beginning of its existence marks its existence.[/quote] So you must be one of those people who can't stand stuff like the morning after pill. My argument with you is done.[/quote] Your argument with me is done? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You're the one that's fine with arbitrarily defining points at which humans can and cannot be murdered at.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sir Charles [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] slayer2142 When do you consider the fetus a human? The moment of conception? 1 month? 3 months? Time is everything.[/quote] Conception. That is the time at which the baby begins to develop. Without that crucial moment, the baby could never be. The beginning of its existence marks its existence.[/quote] So you must be one of those people who can't stand stuff like the morning after pill. I am done arguing with you. [Edited on 06.28.2012 6:16 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] slayer2142 When do you consider the fetus a human? The moment of conception? 1 month? 3 months? Time is everything.[/quote] Conception. That is the time at which the baby begins to develop. Without that crucial moment, the baby could never be. The beginning of its existence marks its existence. [Edited on 06.28.2012 6:11 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PandaJerk007 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NSCLord [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RECON828 By that logic, surgery is bodily harm and should be outlawed.[/quote]Circumcision does not help you in any way, shape or form.[/quote][url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-18549968]"Research by the UN has suggested male circumcision can reduce the spread of HIV and Aids. A report by UNAids and the World Health Organisation (WHO) said the risk of HIV infection among men could be reduced by 60%."[/url][/quote] [url=http://www.unaids.org/en/media/unaids/contentassets/dataimport/pub/pressrelease/2007/20070328_pr_mc_recommendations_en.pdf]There is now strong evidence from three randomized controlled trials undertaken in Kisumu, Kenya, Rakai District, Uganda and Orange Farm, South Africa that male circumcision reduces the risk of hetero-blam!-ly acquired HIV infection in men by approximately 60%. [/url] All of those countries have a sizable problem with AIDs, as does most of Africa. Germany, not so much. Even then, it is optional and not mandatory. [Edited on 06.28.2012 6:03 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sir Charles [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] slayer2142 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sir Charles [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] slayer2142 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sir Charles Yet they allow abortion. Oh, humanity, you never cease to amaze me.[/quote]What does abortion have do do with ANY of this?[/quote] It's the exact same concept. Circumcision isn't allowed because it 'takes away freedoms from the baby'. And that's just talking about a small slicing on the skin. If you swap out the word 'circumcision' and add in 'abortion', it should have the same effect. Yet, for some reason, it [i]is[/i] legal.[/quote]One is a living breathing baby and the other is a fetus.[/quote] So you're to tell me that just a couple of months makes the difference between a human and a developing being that can be murdered? Please, excuse me as I smash my face through a wall.[/quote]Pretty much. When do you consider the fetus a human? The moment of conception? 1 month? 3 months? Time is everything.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] slayer2142 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sir Charles [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] slayer2142 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sir Charles Yet they allow abortion. Oh, humanity, you never cease to amaze me.[/quote]What does abortion have do do with ANY of this?[/quote] It's the exact same concept. Circumcision isn't allowed because it 'takes away freedoms from the baby'. And that's just talking about a small slicing on the skin. If you swap out the word 'circumcision' and add in 'abortion', it should have the same effect. Yet, for some reason, it [i]is[/i] legal.[/quote]One is a living breathing baby and the other is a fetus.[/quote] So you're to tell me that just a couple of months makes the difference between a human and a developing being that can be murdered? Please, excuse me as I smash my face through a wall. [Edited on 06.28.2012 5:57 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NSCLord [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RECON828 By that logic, surgery is bodily harm and should be outlawed.[/quote]Circumcision does not help you in any way, shape or form.[/quote][url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-18549968]"Research by the UN has suggested male circumcision can reduce the spread of HIV and Aids. A report by UNAids and the World Health Organisation (WHO) said the risk of HIV infection among men could be reduced by 60%."[/url]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] slayer2142 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sir Charles [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] slayer2142 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sir Charles Yet they allow abortion. Oh, humanity, you never cease to amaze me.[/quote]What does abortion have do do with ANY of this?[/quote] It's the exact same concept. Circumcision isn't allowed because it 'takes away freedoms from the baby'. And that's just talking about a small slicing on the skin. If you swap out the word 'circumcision' and add in 'abortion', it should have the same effect. Yet, for some reason, it [i]is[/i] legal.[/quote]One is a living breathing baby and the other is a fetus.[/quote]Excuse me while I smash my head through a wall because I read your comment.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sir Charles [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] slayer2142 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sir Charles Yet they allow abortion. Oh, humanity, you never cease to amaze me.[/quote]What does abortion have do do with ANY of this?[/quote] It's the exact same concept. Circumcision isn't allowed because it 'takes away freedoms from the baby'. And that's just talking about a small slicing on the skin. If you swap out the word 'circumcision' and add in 'abortion', it should have the same effect. Yet, for some reason, it [i]is[/i] legal.[/quote]One is a living breathing baby and the other is a fetus.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] slayer2142 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sir Charles Yet they allow abortion. Oh, humanity, you never cease to amaze me.[/quote]What does abortion have do do with ANY of this?[/quote] It's the exact same concept. Circumcision isn't allowed because it 'takes away freedoms from the baby'. And that's just talking about a small slicing on the skin. If you swap out the word 'circumcision' and add in 'abortion', it should have the same effect. Yet, for some reason, it [i]is[/i] legal.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sir Charles Yet they allow abortion. Oh, humanity, you never cease to amaze me.[/quote]What does abortion have do do with ANY of this?
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Besides the jews, who cares? Just take a family trip to Switzerland.
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I am personally glad I'm circumcised. I wouldn't want that...well...uhm...there. I kinda find it disgusting. It's my own opinion. I don't really agree with the courts ruling. I definitely wouldn't want it done later in life. It would be much too painful. [Edited on 06.28.2012 5:39 PM PDT]
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Do any of us actually live in Germany here? Well, there are probably a few but if you don't live in Germany and don't plan on living there, who the hell care about weather or not circumcision is legal or not in Germany?!?
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Yet they allow abortion. Oh, humanity, you never cease to amaze me. [Edited on 06.28.2012 5:38 PM PDT]
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The Jews are going to LOVE this... And FFS people. It's a useless flap of skin. It's not like they're chopping it in half. [Edited on 06.28.2012 5:40 PM PDT]
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ITT: Dicks everywhere. Also, I don't think Germany has any right to ban circumcision.
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As an American, I'm glad I'm cut. Women here, just because uncut is less common, frankly hate the sight of uncut.
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>Jews need to be circumcised >Circumcision banned in Germany Somehow, I'm not surprised.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SwagATron 5000 Im currently laughing at all you -blam!-s who are saying that uncircumsized dicks are ugly. Seriously? You do realize that anyone who isnt cut can achieve something that looks exactly like a cut dick just by pulling back the foreskin right? In fact, when you get a boner, the foreskin is supposed to slide back over the head. So It doesnt look any different than a cut dick in erection form. People are so ignorant[/quote]Actually it does look a bit different in the way that there isn't a ring of scar tissue below the glans
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Well its a traditional thing for the Jewish. I can really get on the religious side since Im not fond of it. This then poisons my opinion so I dont know really what to think. However if Im going for gut instinct I say this a huge step forward.
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Im currently laughing at all you -blam!-s who are saying that uncircumsized dicks are ugly. Seriously? You do realize that anyone who isnt cut can achieve something that looks exactly like a cut dick just by pulling back the foreskin right? In fact, when you get a boner, the foreskin is supposed to slide back over the head. So It doesnt look any different than a cut dick in erection form. People are so ignorant
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Armedsavage01 [url=http://uppix.net/b/1/6/0b85938510463b76a4deab567022e.gif]Relevant.[/url][/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Cheese Lady [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] King Dutchy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Cheese Lady [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] King Dutchy All I did was show The Cheese Lady that she was incorrect on basic medical knowledge than every possible parent should know.[/quote] Silly, you referenced webmd which said that there might be potential benefits, not there ARE benefits. That statement is thus referencing the little evidence/study of the practice. Which basically means, there is no hard fact that there are benefits. No profound studies have been done, just mere observations. The lower chance of urinary infections could be attributed to numerous other factors and may have nothing to do with circumcision. Until a viable study is done, it is just chance. At any rate, my stance still remains the same. When are you going to have a cut off for altering the body for potential for minute benefits.[/quote]I'd like to see a medical study that shows that there are [b]NO[/b] benefits whatsoever, as you said in the original post I quoted.[/quote] Really? You're going to play that game. You're the one touting about some benefits. It's in your court to prove it. [/quote]My original was fine, but [url=http://www.circinfo.com/benefits/bmc.html]k[/url] Now, let's see yours. Since you seemed quite sure that there weren't any benefits.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CIint Beastwood [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Double A Now Germans are gonna have weird lookin' schnitzels.[/quote] Isn't it actually the other way around? I mean, it -blam!- weird that natural is seen as disgusting and mutilation is seen as okay, even aesthetically pleasing.[/quote] This. Americans dont seem to realize that outside of the U.S Circumcision is actually quite rare. By the world's standards, it is you people who have "weird lookin schnitzels"
