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6/28/2012 6:52:29 PM
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Germany bans circumcisision = Unhappy people
[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/27/circumcision-ruling-germany-muslim-jewish]German court rules that procedure is bodily harm and contravenes right to choose religion in later life[/url]
Do you agree with Germany on banning the practice? Do you wish you had the choice of what you wanted to do instead of living with your parents choice?
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I think that's a good resolution. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PandaJerk007 Maybe I'm just not following the conversation well, but has everyone been ignoring this: [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-18549968]"Research by the UN has suggested male circumcision can reduce the spread of HIV and Aids. A report by UNAids and the World Health Organisation (WHO) said the risk of HIV infection among men could be reduced by 60%."[/url] Pleasure shouldn't take priority to reducing the spread of some major -blam!-ly transmitted diseases by up to 60%. Like I said earlier, you're just cutting off some unnecessary skin, it should practically be a crime not to. imo[/quote] Funnily enough, that research took place in developing African countries where the spread of HIV is rampant. It'd be a very different situation in the developed world. [Edited on 06.28.2012 8:01 PM PDT]
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@Sir Charles, George Carlin would like to have a word with you.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Baph117 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sir Charles You're implying that a fetus isn't a person. A person cannot be without previously being a fetus. This means that a fetus is one of the early stages of being human. Therefore, it has the right to life.[/quote]You conclusion doesn't follow from your premise. [quote]Secondly, women don't have the right to control their bodies if it's at the expense of someone else's.[/quote]And neither does a fetus have the right to exist at the cost of the woman's physical autonomy. I have a right to not donate blood, even if me refusing to do so directly results in the death of someone else. [quote]Oh, and how did you come up with that analogy? A woman has the choice in having a child.[/quote]Not if she can't get an abortion. Which is why I am "pro-choice" and you are "anti-choice", because you don't think woman should have a choice in the use of their bodies. Which makes you morally equivalent to a r@pe apologist.[/quote] How doesn't my conclusion follow my premise? I'm saying that babies in the womb still have the right to life, even if it's within the confines of the mother's body. Your analogy, once again, doesn't make any sense. You aren't obligated to donate blood, since you didn't make any choices that consequently affected the soon-to-be death of the person requiring blood. That opposes having child, since carrying a child is the direct result of a choice directly made. -blam!- isn't included since the choice wasn't made by the mother. Lastly, having a child doesn't rely on the ability to have an abortion. In fact, I'd say that it would be quite the opposite, since you wouldn't have the option to abort (meaning a much higher birth rate). I'm pro-life, you're anti-life. This makes you morally equivalent to a murderer.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PandaJerk007 Maybe I'm just not following the conversation well, but has everyone been ignoring this: [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-18549968]"Research by the UN has suggested male circumcision can reduce the spread of HIV and Aids. A report by UNAids and the World Health Organisation (WHO) said the risk of HIV infection among men could be reduced by 60%."[/url] Pleasure shouldn't take priority to reducing the spread of some major -blam!-ly transmitted diseases by up to 60%. Like I said earlier, you're just cutting off some unnecessary skin, it should practically be a crime not to. imo[/quote] Yes there are medical reasons for circumcision, this is why Germany only mandated such reasons for the procedure. For most people in developed countries, its not necessary with widely available condoms (which do help prevent the spread of HIV), and reduced concentrations of infected individuals.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PandaJerk007 Maybe I'm just not following the conversation well, but has everyone been ignoring this: [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-18549968]"Research by the UN has suggested male circumcision can reduce the spread of HIV and Aids. A report by UNAids and the World Health Organisation (WHO) said the risk of HIV infection among men could be reduced by 60%."[/url] Pleasure shouldn't take priority to reducing the spread of some major -blam!-ly transmitted diseases by up to 60%. Like I said earlier, you're just cutting off some unnecessary skin, it should practically be a crime not to. imo[/quote]Not being promiscuous cut down on the chances as well... People should be able to choose IMO.
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Maybe I'm just not following the conversation well, but has everyone been ignoring this: [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-18549968]"Research by the UN has suggested male circumcision can reduce the spread of HIV and Aids. A report by UNAids and the World Health Organisation (WHO) said the risk of HIV infection among men could be reduced by 60%."[/url] Pleasure shouldn't take priority to reducing the spread of some major -blam!-ly transmitted diseases by up to 60%. Like I said earlier, you're just cutting off some unnecessary skin, it should practically be a crime not to. imo
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] slayer2142 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Pizza Bunny [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] King Dutchy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ABotelho [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Double A Now Germans are gonna have weird lookin' schnitzels.[/quote] Haha, you mean the way they're [i]supposed[/i] to look?[/quote]Some things look better altered.[/quote] Why care what a dick looks like? It's a dick. It's supposed to get rid of piss and go inside people. It's not trying to win Miss Universe or something. Cutting off an important male pleasure center for appearance is just stupid.[/quote]I'm cut and can fap just fine. I don't think I feel a loss of pleasure.[/quote] If you compared uncircumcised pleasure to circumcised pleasure, you would find that uncircumcised is better. Circumcised men only think that circumcised pleasure is sufficient because they have never felt anything better. [Edited on 06.28.2012 7:25 PM PDT]
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Well unless the foreskin is a vestigal feature I don't see why it needs to be removed. Jews do it to show their Covenant with God. However males should do it later in life to show that they truly want to be part of the Covenant with God. However it probably helps rather than hinders.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] slayer2142 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Pizza Bunny [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] King Dutchy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ABotelho [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Double A Now Germans are gonna have weird lookin' schnitzels.[/quote] Haha, you mean the way they're [i]supposed[/i] to look?[/quote]Some things look better altered.[/quote] Why care what a dick looks like? It's a dick. It's supposed to get rid of piss and go inside people. It's not trying to win Miss Universe or something. Cutting off an important male pleasure center for appearance is just stupid.[/quote]I'm cut and can fap just fine. I don't think I feel a loss of pleasure.[/quote] The only way you can personally feel the loss is if you were circumcised as an adult. I'm glad Germany has done this, medical procedures should have medical reasons, and forcing newborns to be circumcised for religious reasons infringes upon their freedoms. [Edited on 06.28.2012 7:22 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] slayer2142 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Pizza Bunny [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] King Dutchy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ABotelho [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Double A Now Germans are gonna have weird lookin' schnitzels.[/quote] Haha, you mean the way they're [i]supposed[/i] to look?[/quote]Some things look better altered.[/quote] Why care what a dick looks like? It's a dick. It's supposed to get rid of piss and go inside people. It's not trying to win Miss Universe or something. Cutting off an important male pleasure center for appearance is just stupid.[/quote]I'm cut and can fap just fine. I don't think I feel a loss of pleasure.[/quote] Same with me. Us cut guys can still feel things of course but the truth remains that the foreskin is an extremely sensitive region.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] azliand [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] slayer2142 I'm cut and can fap just fine. I don't think I feel a loss of pleasure.[/quote] Because you don't remember what it's like to have those nerves in the first place.[/quote] For all the men who complain about a lack of stamina in the bedroom, a little loss of sensitivity isn't going to kill most people.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] slayer2142 I'm cut and can fap just fine. I don't think I feel a loss of pleasure.[/quote] Because you don't remember what it's like to have those nerves in the first place.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Pizza Bunny [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] King Dutchy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ABotelho [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Double A Now Germans are gonna have weird lookin' schnitzels.[/quote] Haha, you mean the way they're [i]supposed[/i] to look?[/quote]Some things look better altered.[/quote] Why care what a dick looks like? It's a dick. It's supposed to get rid of piss and go inside people. It's not trying to win Miss Universe or something. Cutting off an important male pleasure center for appearance is just stupid.[/quote]I'm cut and can fap just fine. I don't think I feel a loss of pleasure.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ABotelho They only look better to you because they're so common. Hell, it doesn't even matter what a flaccid dick looks like anyway. They look the same during an erection.[/quote] Not really. Even erect they are blatantly obvious differences. To be honest, I don't even really enjoy watching pr0nz with uncut men as it simply just doesn't look right to me.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] King Dutchy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ABotelho [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Double A Now Germans are gonna have weird lookin' schnitzels.[/quote] Haha, you mean the way they're [i]supposed[/i] to look?[/quote]Some things look better altered.[/quote] Why care what a dick looks like? It's a dick. It's supposed to get rid of piss and go inside people. It's not trying to win Miss Universe or something. Cutting off an important male pleasure center for appearance is just stupid.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] King Dutchy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ABotelho [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Double A Now Germans are gonna have weird lookin' schnitzels.[/quote] Haha, you mean the way they're [i]supposed[/i] to look?[/quote]Some things look better altered.[/quote] They only look better to you because they're so common. Hell, it doesn't even matter what a flaccid dick looks like anyway. They look the same during an erection.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xmat123x [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PandaJerk007 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NSCLord [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RECON828 By that logic, surgery is bodily harm and should be outlawed.[/quote]Circumcision does not help you in any way, shape or form.[/quote][url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-18549968]"Research by the UN has suggested male circumcision can reduce the spread of HIV and Aids. A report by UNAids and the World Health Organisation (WHO) said the risk of HIV infection among men could be reduced by 60%."[/url][/quote]If you shove your dick into an aids infested hole, you will receive no sympathy from me.[/quote]No one is looking for sympathy from you on that issue. It only makes sense though to take steps to reduce the spread of -blam!-ly transmitted diseases and infections. If you can cut that risk by up to 60% by cutting off some unnecessary skin, then it should practically be a crime not to. imo
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] King Dutchy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ABotelho [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Double A Now Germans are gonna have weird lookin' schnitzels.[/quote] Haha, you mean the way they're [i]supposed[/i] to look?[/quote]Some things look better altered.[/quote] Like boobs. *glad lonepaul is asleep so he doesn't rage*
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ABotelho [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Double A Now Germans are gonna have weird lookin' schnitzels.[/quote] Haha, you mean the way they're [i]supposed[/i] to look?[/quote]Some things look better altered.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ANinjaGuardian [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Baph117 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jibreelinater Cut and happy over here. Tbh, this violates people's right Circumcisions might not always be perfect. Mine dangles a little bit off to the right? Do I care? NOPE. I'm a religious person, but being forced to get this as an adult, fully self aware would be horrifying. Almost no one in their right mind would want to do it. The thing is, I can guarantee you that most of the people who wouldn't want it was an adult would've had it done on them as a kid. This law, in effect, stifles religious freedom. [/quote]Your "religious freedom" does not give you the right to mutilate infants.[/quote][/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Double A Now Germans are gonna have weird lookin' schnitzels.[/quote] Haha, you mean the way they're [i]supposed[/i] to look?
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Good. Cutting of an extremely sensitive male pleasure center for little to no reason is entirely idiotic.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Baph117 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jibreelinater Cut and happy over here. Tbh, this violates people's right Circumcisions might not always be perfect. Mine dangles a little bit off to the right? Do I care? NOPE. I'm a religious person, but being forced to get this as an adult, fully self aware would be horrifying. Almost no one in their right mind would want to do it. The thing is, I can guarantee you that most of the people who wouldn't want it was an adult would've had it done on them as a kid. This law, in effect, stifles religious freedom. [/quote]Your "religious freedom" does not give you the right to mutilate infants.[/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jibreelinater Cut and happy over here. Tbh, this violates people's right Circumcisions might not always be perfect. Mine dangles a little bit off to the right? Do I care? NOPE. I'm a religious person, but being forced to get this as an adult, fully self aware would be horrifying. Almost no one in their right mind would want to do it. The thing is, I can guarantee you that most of the people who wouldn't want it was an adult would've had it done on them as a kid. This law, in effect, stifles religious freedom. [/quote][quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jibreelinater By taking away my right to be circumcised, you are in effect taking my right to be religious. No one in their right mind would get circumcised as an adult because it is exponentially more dangerous and much harder to heal. I'd, in effect, forced to be atheist, because being religious would mean huge bodily harm. Besides, all the statistics on botched circumcisions are BULL-blam!-. 90% of the time, small mistakes will heal naturally. Now I don't have to worry about my dick looking like an autistic ant eater.[/quote]i have formed a religion that requires a sacrificial newborn baby to be eaten alive to be accepted into said religion. wait, what, it's illegal to eat newborn babies? dis -blam!- is infringing on my religious freedom mang!
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I'm glad my parents didn't do it to me. It's one of the dumbest practices that have survived so long.
