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6/5/2012 4:32:07 PM
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Ok who really came up with Halo? Bungie or Microsoft?
Yes Bungie developed the games but did they come up with the Halo idea or did Microsoft? I have a bit of a commitment towards Bungie having played their games going all the way back to Pathways into Darkness and Marathon when I was only 9 years old. So I am unsure if I'll be able to get into Halo 4 if it was actually Bungie's idea.
It would be like if some other gaming company other than Capcom came out with a Street Fighter for example, it just wouldn't be the same.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] antony X1000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ANCIENTZOIDIAN Bungie came up with it. Microsoft swooped in and made it an exclusive and launch title for the Xbox. IIRC Bungie originally unveiled Halo at some Apple event.[/quote]Macworld '99 if I'm not mistaken.[/quote] You are not. It looked much different back then.
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Bungie made it up, originally going to be a RPG until some guy wanted FPS since Bungie was going for extreme action, I guess. After revealing it at a Mac expo, Microsoft then wanted to acquire the rights to it.
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Bungie obviously. They basically sold the rights when they joined with M$
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SkilPhil [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] kudegras Then in my eyes Halo Reach will forever be the last Halo game. I can not play Halo 4. [/quote] Alot of ex-Bungie employees work for 343, Frank O'Connor is franchise development director so its in fairly safe hands. Have you seen the E3 reveal? It looks pretty darn good to me.[/quote]How the hell is this rumor still going around? 343 has 3-5 ex-Bungie employees.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Delta 15t There is a video somewhere that shows what Halo looked like before MS got involved. Great footage. ~Delta[/quote] I'm pretty sure it's called Halo CE.
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Bungie Brains
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Of course it was Bungie, the game was originally going to come out on Macintosh. Microsoft just stole Bungie away from Apple.
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Bungie's Idea. Cause Halo was originally going to be Mac only. But then Microsoft came in and was like "Hey bungie I got money... you want it?" and then Bungie was like "YEAH!!!!!" and then the evilness grew in microsofts eyes. Then Bungie was like "MICROSOFT, Y U GET TO OWN HALO?" and Microsoft was like "WE OWN HALO -blam!-" and Bungie was like "fine.... we independant now noob" and Microsfot was like "YOU STILL HAVE TO HOLD TO YOUR CONTRACT" and Bungie was like "ok... see you in 3 years!!" And then the would became awesome :)
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There is a video somewhere that shows what Halo looked like before MS got involved. Great footage. ~Delta
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Bungie were in financial trouble after the Myth II re-call which carried over in their attempt to create Halo. Microsoft offered funding provided that they became an X-Box exclusive.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ANCIENTZOIDIAN Bungie came up with it. Microsoft swooped in and made it an exclusive and launch title for the Xbox. IIRC Bungie originally unveiled Halo at some Apple event.[/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] kudegras Yes Bungie developed the games but did they come up with the Halo idea or did Microsoft? I have a bit of a commitment towards Bungie having played their games going all the way back to Pathways into Darkness and Marathon when I was only 9 years old. So I am unsure if I'll be able to get into Halo 4 if it was actually Bungie's idea. It would be like if some other gaming company other than Capcom came out with a Street Fighter for example, it just wouldn't be the same.[/quote] Bungies idea, it was showcased at Macworld in 1999 as an RTS to start with (I think I got the date right) The started to evolve into a FPS then MS saw the potential and bought them. And MS owns the IP, and a chunk of ex-Bungie guys are at 343i so Halo should be in good hands
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I've been wondering this too.
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What? Why on earth would you have a doubt that Bungie didn't bring up the concept and Microsoft did? Bungie did eet. Sadly Halo 4 may not be by Bungie, but always remember that it wouldn't exist if it weren't for them.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] some1 with guns [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RC Master [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] some1 with guns Same. I'm counting ODST as the last Bungie-made halo since (correct me if I'm wrong) I don't think Reach isn't considered canon.[/quote] Take out the double negative and you just said: "I think Reach is considered canon." - you're right, but why would that mean ODST was the last Bungie-made Halo? Regardless, the canonicity of Reach's plot would have nothing to do with the fact that Bungie did in fact make it.[/quote] Oh, nice catch. My intended sentence was "I think Reach isn't considered canon." If Reach isn't canon, it's technically not part of the halo universe. The events therein would have no meaningful connection to any events in the established universe. In short, it doesn't count. Yes, bungie did make it, but it doesn't mean anything in the large scope of things. As far as the Halo story is concerned, the events of ODST were bungie's last contribution. [/quote]But it is canon so... Yeah. OT:I think it's been answered enough. You should give Halo 4 a try though. You may be pleasantly surprised.
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Jason Jones announced Halo at the 1999 Macworld expo while standing next to Steve Jobs. ... Microsoft wasn't involved at the time
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I came up with it.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RC Master [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] some1 with guns Same. I'm counting ODST as the last Bungie-made halo since (correct me if I'm wrong) I don't think Reach isn't considered canon.[/quote] Take out the double negative and you just said: "I think Reach is considered canon." - you're right, but why would that mean ODST was the last Bungie-made Halo? Regardless, the canonicity of Reach's plot would have nothing to do with the fact that Bungie did in fact make it.[/quote] Oh, nice catch. My intended sentence was "I think Reach isn't considered canon." If Reach isn't canon, it's technically not part of the halo universe. The events therein would have no meaningful connection to any events in the established universe. In short, it doesn't count. Yes, bungie did make it, but it doesn't mean anything in the large scope of things. As far as the Halo story is concerned, the events of ODST were bungie's last contribution. [Edited on 06.05.2012 7:20 PM PDT]
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Halo 4 look's like it will turn out to be a great game. Just because it's not made by Bungie doesn't mean you can't play it. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] kudegras Then in my eyes Halo Reach will forever be the last Halo game. I can not play Halo 4. [/quote]
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If you watched the movie "O Brave New World", Bungie originally created the Halo game before Microsoft could claim it. They sold the Halo title to Microsoft because they had a financial crisis back then. It was like their only hope to make the studio everlasting.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tom T [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BadBall3r47 After the contract didn't Microsoft lead it into a new direction? Like a first person instead of 3rd person? It looked very different when it was first announced. But maybe Microsoft played no part in that.[/quote]MS played no part. I was unable to find the video on youtube which explains Jason Jones decided on the perspective, but I have it on my computer and am now in the process of uploading it. Edit: [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbeWhN8OaBc&t=5m42s]here you go[/url]; apparently it had something to do with narcotics[/quote]Ah cool, cheers Tom!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] some1 with guns Same. I'm counting ODST as the last Bungie-made halo since (correct me if I'm wrong) I don't think Reach isn't considered canon.[/quote] Take out the double negative and you just said: "I think Reach is considered canon." - you're right, but why would that mean ODST was the last Bungie-made Halo? Regardless, the canonicity of Reach's plot would have nothing to do with the fact that Bungie did in fact make it.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] machinimagames Was it apple? I thought they did it at Mac world, or something like that.[/quote]BUNGIE did it at Mac World...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BadBall3r47 After the contract didn't Microsoft lead it into a new direction? Like a first person instead of 3rd person? It looked very different when it was first announced. But maybe Microsoft played no part in that.[/quote]MS played no part. I was unable to find the video on youtube which explains Jason Jones decided on the perspective, but I have it on my computer and am now in the process of uploading it. Edit: [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbeWhN8OaBc&t=5m42s]here you go[/url]; apparently it had something to do with narcotics [Edited on 06.05.2012 5:05 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spartain ken 15 Bungie But you can argue Halo was inspired by ring world and Marathon was also has elements very familiar to a later 80s Sci-Fi book series. [/quote] This, I couldn't have explained it better.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] some1 with guns [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheSpiderChief [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ANCIENTZOIDIAN [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] kudegras Then in my eyes Halo Reach will forever be the last Halo game. I can not play Halo 4. [/quote] You shouldn't write off the series just yet. It may not be Bungie at the helm anymore, but it looks like things are coming along nicely. You'll gain nothing from not giving the game a chance.[/quote] Agreed. Get the game for the Campaign if not for the Multiplayer. The Campaign play-through they did yesterday at E3 completely blew me away.[/quote] Same. I'm counting ODST as the last Bungie-made halo since (correct me if I'm wrong) I don't think Reach isn't considered canon.[/quote]Reach is canon... What would ever give you the idea that it wasn't, just because people didn't like it? Sure it had some discrepancies with the books, but then they went and changed all the books(which were better). [Edited on 06.05.2012 4:35 PM PDT]
