[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lloyd Blankfein You're the one not getting it. The point is you follow a God who does the above - condemns innocent children, rhape victims, or the handicapped to hell. Why would you follow a God that advocates such heinous crimes? Someone who advocates violence in his name and condemns innocents to a life of eternal damnation?[/quote] It isn't my place to judge God. Also, you are ignoring a large portion of the Bible and only focusing on what you deem to be wrong in order to try to support your argument. If you have a problem with Christianity then by all means, don't follow it. However, I would like you to.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] n00b2Kill [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dayvan Cowboy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] n00b2Kill [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] coolmike699 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] n00b2Kill But this is the way how things have always been and changing it WOULD be forcing that opinion onto to others and like I said it also stops regular adoption houses chosing where a child goes. But I dont want to get dragged into the religious side of this. What do you have to say about my other points?[/quote] Whether something "has always been" is irrelevant. An adoption agency (very luckily for me) cannot refuse to give a child to a family of a different race because they believe in racial purity. Same thing with same sex couples. This isn't the "religious side" of anything. It's the simple fact that the Supreme Court has said that the governemnt can't interfere with marriage, and that the governemnt is doing so unconstitutionally. [/quote] It is relevant because as people have said in this topic is that religious marriage is different and left to the church. I can understand that they are two both different things. However when you rule that same sex couples can be married outside of religion it still effects it in other areas such as adoption. It also forces adoption houses that arnt religious to have no preference over hetro couples. They might not believe in same sex couples bringing up children because of the physiological effects this can have which I have previously stated. So it is still forcing the opinion that previous pro same sex couples keep saying they never do. There is a difference between "race" and "gender" can people please stop using this argument.[/quote] I'm pretty sure you meant psychological as physiological would imply that the kids are actually physically different. Still waiting for you to prove that though. The only psychological difference I can see that has been proven by same sex couple's children is that they don't share the same discriminatory tendencies against same sex couples.[/quote] That was a typo and I apologies. That may be the only psychological thing you have noticed because you have not done your research.[/quote] [url]http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080212095450.htm[/url] "Our detailed 20-year review shows that overall, children reap positive benefits if they have active and regular engagement with a father figure" says Dr Anna Sarkadi from the Department of Women's and Children's Health at Uppsala University, Sweden." [url]http://www.childwelfare.gov/pubs/usermanuals/fatherhood/chaptertwo.cfm[/url] [url]http://www.fatherhoodinstitute.org/2010/fatherhood-institute-research-summary-fathers-and-their-childrens-education/[/url] My point is both genders have a role and when that is absent it affects the child.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MadMax888 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] thebig100 Now tell me,why do LGBT people try to censor and suppress people which have opinions which happen to be against them? LGBT,more like CLGBT.[/quote] Well, when people like you openly and actively discriminate against them, it's frustrating. They don't want to censor you, they want to educate you because you're simply WRONG.[/quote] You can say the same thing about Anjem Choudery and his gang of Thugs trying to educate British people about islam through enforcing Sharia,sharing leaflets and giving Korans,LGBT are punching this "education" in the face and it's annoying. I have my right to Resist LGBT propaganda.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MadMax888 We already determined that Leviticus was Old Testament and is wrong.[/quote] Now now now, only some of the Old Testament is bad - the parts that don't fit his argument and cast his God in an unfair light. [Edited on 05.01.2012 11:00 AM PDT]

legalizing Ghey marriage does not force churches to marry ghey people. It just means that they have a right to apply for a marriage license and have all the benefits that come with it. It in no way violates your religions, because your church is still free to reject it.

This is new?

Idiot.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Monrizzo [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kadoozy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Monrizzo [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kadoozy We are supposed to find Jesus and share His love.[/quote] Tell me, how does one share his love when denying the joys of marriage to a group of people?[/quote] Getting married isn't how you find Jesus. You read the Bible and try your best to follow both God's and Jesus' teachings.[/quote] And where in the bible does it specifically mention -blam!--blam!-ity being wrong? No where. If you say Leviticus then you obviously know nothing of the bible and take it word for word which is not how it is meant to be taken.[/quote] We already determined that Leviticus was Old Testament and is wrong.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TBd-UCwVAY&feature=my_favorites&list=FLPsEMejm8w3H6x37vK3ffgQ]Someone should try and have this aired in NC.[/url]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kadoozy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Monrizzo [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kadoozy We are supposed to find Jesus and share His love.[/quote] Tell me, how does one share his love when denying the joys of marriage to a group of people?[/quote] Getting married isn't how you find Jesus. You read the Bible and try your best to follow both God's and Jesus' teachings.[/quote] And where in the bible does it specifically mention homo-blam!-ity being wrong? No where. If you say Leviticus then you obviously know nothing of the bible and take it word for word which is not how it is meant to be taken.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] thebig100 Good for him. I'm against same sex marriage,first we legalize that and then they want to make -blam!- legal. God,what on earth have we come too. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MadMax888 How come there are never any smart, reasonable people that don't support same-sex marriage?[/quote] Generalization much? I'm against it because first the legalize that,then what next? It never will never stop.[/quote] [i]That[/i] is your argument?!

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kadoozy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lloyd Blankfein [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kadoozy We are supposed to find Jesus and share His love. As long as we believe in Him and do our best to avoid sinning then we will be accepted into Heaven. This is open to interpretation, however.[/quote] Obviously. God frequently condemns completely innocent children, rhape victims, or the handicapped to hell in writings.[/quote] What is the point of half of your posts? Seriously, that didn't relate in any way to what I said in my previous post.[/quote] You're the one not getting it. The point is you follow a God who does the above - condemns innocent children, rhape victims, or the handicapped to hell. Why would you follow a God that advocates such heinous crimes? Someone who advocates violence in his name and condemns innocents to a life of eternal damnation? [Edited on 05.01.2012 10:56 AM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] thebig100 Now tell me,why do LGBT people try to censor and suppress people which have opinions which happen to be against them? LGBT,more like CLGBT.[/quote] Well, when people like you openly and actively discriminate against them, it's frustrating. They don't want to censor you, they want to educate you because you're simply WRONG.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Monrizzo [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kadoozy We are supposed to find Jesus and share His love.[/quote] Tell me, how does one share his love when denying the joys of marriage to a group of people?[/quote] Getting married isn't how you find Jesus. You read the Bible and try your best to follow both God's and Jesus' teachings.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lloyd Blankfein [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kadoozy We are supposed to find Jesus and share His love. As long as we believe in Him and do our best to avoid sinning then we will be accepted into Heaven. This is open to interpretation, however.[/quote] Obviously. God frequently condemns completely innocent children, rhape victims, or the handicapped to hell in writings.[/quote] What is the point of half of your posts? Seriously, that didn't relate in any way to what I said in my previous post.

Now tell me,why do LGBT people try to censor and suppress people which have opinions which happen to be against them? LGBT,more like CLGBT. [Edited on 05.01.2012 10:53 AM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kadoozy We are supposed to find Jesus and share His love.[/quote] Tell me, how does one share his love when denying the joys of marriage to a group of people?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kadoozy We are supposed to find Jesus and share His love. As long as we believe in Him and do our best to avoid sinning then we will be accepted into Heaven. This is open to interpretation, however.[/quote] Obviously. God frequently condemns completely innocent children, rhape victims, or the handicapped to hell in writings.

Moron.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MadMax888 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kadoozy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MadMax888 How is making your rules too strict anything but a mistake? God doesn't make mistakes.[/quote] It isn't my place, nor anyone's, to judge that. If it is what He wants, then it is what He wants. As I said, He gave us Jesus as a way around His expectations; which is all that really matters.[/quote] How did Jesus give us a way around his expectations?[/quote] We are supposed to find Jesus and share His love. As long as we believe in Him and do our best to avoid sinning then we will be accepted into Heaven. This is open to interpretation, however.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] n00b2Kill REDACTED[/quote] Good.

REDACTED [Edited on 05.01.2012 10:50 AM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MadMax888 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lloyd Blankfein [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kadoozy That shows that he can be wrong at times.[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kadoozy He didn't ever take them back and say that He was wrong. [/quote] Which is it brah?[/quote] I genuinely laughed out loud. Thank you.[/quote] Anytime. I'll get on your good side on threads like these when we disagree elsewhere.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lloyd Blankfein [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kadoozy That shows that he can be wrong at times.[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kadoozy He didn't ever take them back and say that He was wrong. [/quote] Which is it brah?[/quote] Those sentences are taken out of context and relate to two different things. You literally made no point there.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kadoozy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MadMax888 How is making your rules too strict anything but a mistake? God doesn't make mistakes.[/quote] It isn't my place, nor anyone's, to judge that. If it is what He wants, then it is what He wants. As I said, He gave us Jesus as a way around His expectations; which is all that really matters.[/quote] How did Jesus give us a way around his expectations?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] n00b2Kill [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dayvan Cowboy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] n00b2Kill [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] coolmike699 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] n00b2Kill But this is the way how things have always been and changing it WOULD be forcing that opinion onto to others and like I said it also stops regular adoption houses chosing where a child goes. But I dont want to get dragged into the religious side of this. What do you have to say about my other points?[/quote] Whether something "has always been" is irrelevant. An adoption agency (very luckily for me) cannot refuse to give a child to a family of a different race because they believe in racial purity. Same thing with same sex couples. This isn't the "religious side" of anything. It's the simple fact that the Supreme Court has said that the governemnt can't interfere with marriage, and that the governemnt is doing so unconstitutionally. [/quote] It is relevant because as people have said in this topic is that religious marriage is different and left to the church. I can understand that they are two both different things. However when you rule that same sex couples can be married outside of religion it still effects it in other areas such as adoption. It also forces adoption houses that arnt religious to have no preference over hetro couples. They might not believe in same sex couples bringing up children because of the physiological effects this can have which I have previously stated. So it is still forcing the opinion that previous pro same sex couples keep saying they never do. There is a difference between "race" and "gender" can people please stop using this argument.[/quote] I'm pretty sure you meant psychological as physiological would imply that the kids are actually physically different. Still waiting for you to prove that though. The only psychological difference I can see that has been proven by same sex couple's children is that they don't share the same discriminatory tendencies against same sex couples.[/quote] That was a typo and I apologies. That may be the only psychological thing you have noticed because you have not done your research.[/quote] So would you like to finally post YOUR research that proves it then?