[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace You can always tell someone knows they've lost when they start out with a petty insult. What are you going to do next, call me a nerd? I've stated pretty solid evidence that it tore right through him, you've just said "no you're wrong"[/quote] Not once did I insult you. You're just getting butthurt now. You stated nothing. Half your posts are assumptions.[/quote] So then explain to me how you know that the gauss round simply "bounced off" when it is clearly stated to have more force than a .50 cal round and one those is seen to rock back his entire body, yet the book says that he barely felt the impact. Who's the one making assumptions?[/quote] That's a trailer, you realize. That's like saying Halo 3's trailer is canon, despite nothing like it ever happening in Halo 3. It's just there to show you, 'yeah, this suit is bulletproof. Not even large rounds can hurt it'. The novelization presides over commercials.[/quote] The novelization is unclear. And no that is a scene that occurs in the game and is the cutscene for the main menu.[/quote] It's still not really canon. And the book is clear enough.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace You can always tell someone knows they've lost when they start out with a petty insult. What are you going to do next, call me a nerd? I've stated pretty solid evidence that it tore right through him, you've just said "no you're wrong"[/quote] Not once did I insult you. You're just getting butthurt now. You stated nothing. Half your posts are assumptions.[/quote] So then explain to me how you know that the gauss round simply "bounced off" when it is clearly stated to have more force than a .50 cal round and one those is seen to rock back his entire body, yet the book says that he barely felt the impact. Who's the one making assumptions?[/quote] That's a trailer, you realize. That's like saying Halo 3's trailer is canon, despite nothing like it ever happening in Halo 3. It's just there to show you, 'yeah, this suit is bulletproof. Not even large rounds can hurt it'. The novelization presides over commercials.[/quote] The novelization is unclear. And no that is a scene that occurs in the game and is the cutscene for the main menu.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace You can always tell someone knows they've lost when they start out with a petty insult. What are you going to do next, call me a nerd? I've stated pretty solid evidence that it tore right through him, you've just said "no you're wrong"[/quote] Not once did I insult you. You're just getting butthurt now. You stated nothing. Half your posts are assumptions.[/quote] So then explain to me how you know that the gauss round simply "bounced off" when it is clearly stated to have more force than a .50 cal round and one those is seen to rock back his entire body, yet the book says that he barely felt the impact. Who's the one making assumptions?[/quote] That's a trailer, you realize. That's like saying Halo 3's trailer is canon, despite nothing like it ever happening in Halo 3. It's just there to show you, 'yeah, this suit is bulletproof. Not even large rounds can hurt it'. The novelization presides over commercials.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace You can always tell someone knows they've lost when they start out with a petty insult. What are you going to do next, call me a nerd? I've stated pretty solid evidence that it tore right through him, you've just said "no you're wrong"[/quote] Not once did I insult you. You're just getting butthurt now. You stated nothing. Half your posts are assumptions.[/quote] So then explain to me how you know that the gauss round simply "bounced off" when it is clearly stated to have more force than a .50 cal round and one those is seen to rock back his entire body, yet the book says that he barely felt the impact. Who's the one making assumptions? [Edited on 04.14.2012 11:28 AM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace You can always tell someone knows they've lost when they start out with a petty insult. What are you going to do next, call me a nerd? I've stated pretty solid evidence that it tore right through him, you've just said "no you're wrong"[/quote] Not once did I insult you. You're just getting butthurt now. You stated nothing. Half your posts are assumptions.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace lol Mjolnir has no cammo. Thats just multiplayer bud. Though by that logic it also has armor lock so...[/quote] I was just about to say that it has no camo. Assuming it comes equipped with it, Crysis' camo is still superior. They have it in Campaign as well, though it's still just a separate piece of hardware.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace No it's not. Unless the round went through is heart, it's only a few millimeters across so it would cause very little damage to his strengthened internals.[/quote] He probably doesn't even [i]have[/i] a heart at this point. Also, there wouldn't be much of an impact if it have gone right through, eh? 'Impact' implies it hit and bounced off.[/quote] Not it doesn't. Impact (n) 1. The striking of one body against another; collision. 2. The force or impetus transmitted by a collision. All it implies is that the round didn't miss. Anyways here's what would have happened if it had bounced off: [url=http://www.mycrysis.com/news/crysis_2/crysis-2-weapon-focus--m2014-gauss]More power than a .50 cal round.[/url] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLKv2lVasoo&t=2m0s]What happens to nano suit 2.0 when struck with .50 cal round[/url] Seeing as how he wasn't knocked on his ass I think it's pretty clear what happened. [/quote] Did you just go to Dictionary.com, just for that? Anywho, it didn't go through. It didn't go through in the game, it didn't go through in the book, and there's no reason why it would. So, what made you think that it would?[/quote] You can always tell someone knows they've lost when they start out with a petty insult. What are you going to do next, call me a nerd? I've stated pretty solid evidence that it tore right through him, you've just said "no you're wrong"

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] noah5150 Nanosuit. You can turn invisable at will for a pretty long amount of time. What more must be said?[/quote] What is the canonical length powers can be used?[/quote] Invisibility last 40 seconds at best. It's also invisible to thermal readings.[/quote] ... That's pathetic. At best would imply standing still, so if you move it drains much faster... But I don't care about invisibility, back to the gauss rifleing.[/quote] It's still better than a MJOLNIR's pitiful twenty seconds. Not to mention Halo's camo isn't exactly difficult to spot.[/quote] lol Mjolnir has no cammo. Thats just multiplayer bud. Though by that logic it also has armor lock so...

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] noah5150 Nanosuit. You can turn invisable at will for a pretty long amount of time. What more must be said?[/quote] What is the canonical length powers can be used?[/quote] Invisibility last 40 seconds at best. It's also invisible to thermal readings.[/quote] ... That's pathetic. At best would imply standing still, so if you move it drains much faster... But I don't care about invisibility, back to the gauss rifleing.[/quote] It's still better than a MJOLNIR's pitiful twenty seconds. Not to mention Halo's camo isn't exactly difficult to spot.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace No it's not. Unless the round went through is heart, it's only a few millimeters across so it would cause very little damage to his strengthened internals.[/quote] He probably doesn't even [i]have[/i] a heart at this point. Also, there wouldn't be much of an impact if it have gone right through, eh? 'Impact' implies it hit and bounced off.[/quote] Not it doesn't. Impact (n) 1. The striking of one body against another; collision. 2. The force or impetus transmitted by a collision. All it implies is that the round didn't miss. Anyways here's what would have happened if it had bounced off: [url=http://www.mycrysis.com/news/crysis_2/crysis-2-weapon-focus--m2014-gauss]More power than a .50 cal round.[/url] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLKv2lVasoo&t=2m0s]What happens to nano suit 2.0 when struck with .50 cal round[/url] Seeing as how he wasn't knocked on his ass I think it's pretty clear what happened. [/quote] Did you just go to Dictionary.com, just for that? Anywho, it didn't go through. It didn't go through in the game, it didn't go through in the book, and there's no reason why it would. So, what made you think that it would?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] noah5150 Nanosuit. You can turn invisable at will for a pretty long amount of time. What more must be said?[/quote] What is the canonical length powers can be used?[/quote] Invisibility last 40 seconds at best. It's also invisible to thermal readings.[/quote] ... That's pathetic. At best would imply standing still, so if you move it drains much faster... But I don't care about invisibility, back to the gauss rifleing. [Edited on 04.14.2012 11:08 AM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] noah5150 Nanosuit. You can turn invisable at will for a pretty long amount of time. What more must be said?[/quote] What is the canonical length powers can be used?[/quote] Invisibility last 40 seconds at best. It's also invisible to thermal readings.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] noah5150 Nanosuit. You can turn invisable at will for a pretty long amount of time. What more must be said?[/quote] What is the canonical length powers can be used?

Nanosuit. You can turn invisable at will for a pretty long amount of time. What more must be said?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace No it's not. Unless the round went through is heart, it's only a few millimeters across so it would cause very little damage to his strengthened internals.[/quote] He probably doesn't even [i]have[/i] a heart at this point. Also, there wouldn't be much of an impact if it have gone right through, eh? 'Impact' implies it hit and bounced off.[/quote] Not it doesn't. Impact (n) 1. The striking of one body against another; collision. 2. The force or impetus transmitted by a collision. All it implies is that the round didn't miss. Anyways here's what would have happened if it had bounced off: [url=http://www.mycrysis.com/news/crysis_2/crysis-2-weapon-focus--m2014-gauss]More power than a .50 cal round.[/url] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLKv2lVasoo&t=2m0s]What happens to nano suit 2.0 when struck with .50 cal round[/url] Seeing as how he wasn't knocked on his ass I think it's pretty clear what happened.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace No it's not. Unless the round went through is heart, it's only a few millimeters across so it would cause very little damage to his strengthened internals.[/quote] He probably doesn't even [i]have[/i] a heart at this point. Also, there wouldn't be much of an impact if it have gone right through, eh? 'Impact' implies it hit and bounced off.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RKOSNAKE [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace Also why do you keep saying that the Nano suit can repel .50 cal rounds? You die in about 3 shots in the multiplayer, and in campaign are never seen taking more than 1 or two in rapid succession.[/quote] The multiplayer variants are other variants of Nanosuits (1.5 if you must say) they do not have the same armor strength than the one in the campaign (something that is painfully obvious when you get the Maximum Nanosuit killstreak in multiplayer) And if we go by your logic, Spartans can't run and are stuck on a slow throttle, they die when they come in contact with water...oh and when they kill a civilian they also drop dead because all of that appears in campaign or multiplayer.[/quote] First: Maximum nano suit =/= nano suit 2.0 Second:Show me a cutscene where the nano suit shrugs off multiple .50 cal rounds. That or a quote from the book will do. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLKv2lVasoo&t=2m0s]Here is all I can find[/url] He is shot precisely one time, and it rocks him back, though it does not penetrate the suit. The nano suit 2.0 cannot maintain any of it's features for extended amounts of time so we don't really have any weigh to know it's durability unless you have another source. I'm not saying Mjolnir's faster or stronger. Just more bullet proof.[/quote] Alright, I don't have any scene where the suit takes another .50 cal round, but! I do have a quote that depicts Alcatraz taking gauss rounds (which go at 10,000m/s or at Mach 29 if this calculator I'm using is right) without much troubles. [quote]Behold, mother-blam!-. I stand at the door and knock. The door blows off its hinges. Lockhart blows back, Gauss gun cradled against his gut: "Come on. Come on! Show me the color of your guts, boy!" The joke's on him, of course. My insides and outsides are all the same color by now, all honeycombed and striated and gunmetal gray, and they barely feel the impact of Lockhart's sabots. "-blam!- you, Tin Man." I don't even bring up a weapon. I grab him by the throat and raise him high and I squeeze. At first I think he's making those sounds, those hacking choking coughs, but no: It's Hargreave, invisible and omnipresent as always. Hargreave, laughing. I throw Lockhart through the window. He arcs down past two stories, clears the razor wire, hits the gravel road facedown not ten meters from the inner compound. "Good work, son." Hargreave's voice pats me on the head. Down on the road, Dominic Lockhart drags his broken body by inches through the rain.[/quote] [/quote] The wording there is quite vague, it really isn't clear if the rounds bounce off or simply go straight through him causing minimal damage to the surrounding tissue due to the nano molecular strengthening. What I'm saying is that because it is going so fast yet with such low mass it might rip just a tiny straight hole through the nano suit, but not hurt anything else as the wearers flesh is much stronger, as indicated in the quote.[/quote] You [i]have[/i] played Crysis 2, right? The Nanosuit harvested the damaged organs Alcatraz had, and basically grew into his body, to keep him alive. Hence, his insides are gunmetal grey - literally metal. And it's obvious the rounds bounced off.[/quote] No it's not. Unless the round went through is heart, it's only a few millimeters across so it would cause very little damage to his strengthened internals.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RKOSNAKE [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RKOSNAKE [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace Also why do you keep saying that the Nano suit can repel .50 cal rounds? You die in about 3 shots in the multiplayer, and in campaign are never seen taking more than 1 or two in rapid succession.[/quote] The multiplayer variants are other variants of Nanosuits (1.5 if you must say) they do not have the same armor strength than the one in the campaign (something that is painfully obvious when you get the Maximum Nanosuit killstreak in multiplayer) And if we go by your logic, Spartans can't run and are stuck on a slow throttle, they die when they come in contact with water...oh and when they kill a civilian they also drop dead because all of that appears in campaign or multiplayer.[/quote] First: Maximum nano suit =/= nano suit 2.0 Second:Show me a cutscene where the nano suit shrugs off multiple .50 cal rounds. That or a quote from the book will do. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLKv2lVasoo&t=2m0s]Here is all I can find[/url] He is shot precisely one time, and it rocks him back, though it does not penetrate the suit. The nano suit 2.0 cannot maintain any of it's features for extended amounts of time so we don't really have any weigh to know it's durability unless you have another source. I'm not saying Mjolnir's faster or stronger. Just more bullet proof.[/quote] Alright, I don't have any scene where the suit takes another .50 cal round, but! I do have a quote that depicts Alcatraz taking gauss rounds (which go at 10,000m/s or at Mach 29 if this calculator I'm using is right) without much troubles. [quote]Behold, mother-blam!-. I stand at the door and knock. The door blows off its hinges. Lockhart blows back, Gauss gun cradled against his gut: "Come on. Come on! Show me the color of your guts, boy!" The joke's on him, of course. My insides and outsides are all the same color by now, all honeycombed and striated and gunmetal gray, and they barely feel the impact of Lockhart's sabots. "-blam!- you, Tin Man." I don't even bring up a weapon. I grab him by the throat and raise him high and I squeeze. At first I think he's making those sounds, those hacking choking coughs, but no: It's Hargreave, invisible and omnipresent as always. Hargreave, laughing. I throw Lockhart through the window. He arcs down past two stories, clears the razor wire, hits the gravel road facedown not ten meters from the inner compound. "Good work, son." Hargreave's voice pats me on the head. Down on the road, Dominic Lockhart drags his broken body by inches through the rain.[/quote] [/quote] The wording there is quite vague, it really isn't clear if the rounds bounce off or simply go straight through him causing minimal damage to the surrounding tissue due to the nano molecular strengthening. What I'm saying is that because it is going so fast yet with such low mass it might rip just a tiny straight hole through the nano suit, but not hurt anything else as the wearers flesh is much stronger, as indicated in the quote.[/quote] You [i]have[/i] played Crysis 2, right? The Nanosuit harvested the damaged organs Alcatraz had, and basically grew into his body, to keep him alive. Hence, his insides are gunmetal grey - literally metal. And it's obvious the rounds bounced off.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] italian templar Well seeing as only a spartan can use the MJOLNIR armour, I would go with the Nanosuit. If I remember right they had a ODST try out the MJOLNIR armour and did it not break most of the bones in his body or even kill him? Haven't read the books in a while but that is what I remember from it. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] petemech Mjolnir seems more protective, but Nanosuit seems easier to use. I'm conflicted.[/quote][/quote] I'm pretty sure we're ignoring that or this entire thread is retarded.

This thread was my destiny O.O Either way, MJOLNIR would out-do the Nanosuit at every turn. Though, I have to hand it to Crynet, their suits can keep the wearer alive even if he's medically dead. They have to leave the suit to die, hence they bond to it mentally, or something like that... I love the Nanosuit, and I love Spartan 2's, but I really have to say the MJOLNIR would win. Operatives in MJOLNIR can make up for not having Cloak mode, and they have Maximum Speed and Strength, even Armour, already nailed. Also, I see a few others saying it. Nanosuit 1.0 > Nanosuit 2.0 Crysis > Crysis 2 Sorry, but.. Crysis 2 feels like a really, really, dumbed down version of 1 for console. [Edited on 04.14.2012 10:52 AM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RKOSNAKE [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RKOSNAKE [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace Also why do you keep saying that the Nano suit can repel .50 cal rounds? You die in about 3 shots in the multiplayer, and in campaign are never seen taking more than 1 or two in rapid succession.[/quote] The multiplayer variants are other variants of Nanosuits (1.5 if you must say) they do not have the same armor strength than the one in the campaign (something that is painfully obvious when you get the Maximum Nanosuit killstreak in multiplayer) And if we go by your logic, Spartans can't run and are stuck on a slow throttle, they die when they come in contact with water...oh and when they kill a civilian they also drop dead because all of that appears in campaign or multiplayer.[/quote] First: Maximum nano suit =/= nano suit 2.0 Second:Show me a cutscene where the nano suit shrugs off multiple .50 cal rounds. That or a quote from the book will do. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLKv2lVasoo&t=2m0s]Here is all I can find[/url] He is shot precisely one time, and it rocks him back, though it does not penetrate the suit. The nano suit 2.0 cannot maintain any of it's features for extended amounts of time so we don't really have any weigh to know it's durability unless you have another source. I'm not saying Mjolnir's faster or stronger. Just more bullet proof.[/quote] Alright, I don't have any scene where the suit takes another .50 cal round, but! I do have a quote that depicts Alcatraz taking gauss rounds (which go at 10,000m/s or at Mach 29 if this calculator I'm using is right) without much troubles. [quote]Behold, mother-blam!-. I stand at the door and knock. The door blows off its hinges. Lockhart blows back, Gauss gun cradled against his gut: "Come on. Come on! Show me the color of your guts, boy!" The joke's on him, of course. My insides and outsides are all the same color by now, all honeycombed and striated and gunmetal gray, and they barely feel the impact of Lockhart's sabots. "-blam!- you, Tin Man." I don't even bring up a weapon. I grab him by the throat and raise him high and I squeeze. At first I think he's making those sounds, those hacking choking coughs, but no: It's Hargreave, invisible and omnipresent as always. Hargreave, laughing. I throw Lockhart through the window. He arcs down past two stories, clears the razor wire, hits the gravel road facedown not ten meters from the inner compound. "Good work, son." Hargreave's voice pats me on the head. Down on the road, Dominic Lockhart drags his broken body by inches through the rain.[/quote] [/quote] The wording there is quite vague, it really isn't clear if the rounds bounce off or simply go straight through him causing minimal damage to the surrounding tissue due to the nano molecular strengthening. What I'm saying is that because it is going so fast yet with such low mass it might rip just a tiny straight hole through the nano suit, but not hurt anything else as the wearers flesh is much stronger, as indicated in the quote.

Well the nanosuit sometimes kills you when you try to walk between a wall and an overturned table

Well seeing as only a spartan can use the MJOLNIR armour, I would go with the Nanosuit. If I remember right they had a ODST try out the MJOLNIR armour and did it not break most of the bones in his body or even kill him? Haven't read the books in a while but that is what I remember from it. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] petemech Mjolnir seems more protective, but Nanosuit seems easier to use. I'm conflicted.[/quote] [Edited on 04.14.2012 7:19 AM PDT]

The nano suit, it's adaptability to situations makes it extremely effective

Secret Option C: [url=http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4096/4862753746_49f5fc9db9.jpg]The ARS[/url] (Augmented Reaction Suit).

Nanosuit. That being said, the outcome of the fight would be heavily dependent on many factors like users, terrain, and weapons. The Nanosuit is more mobile than MJOLNIR and arguably stronger.