[quote][i]Leaked content (including magazine scans), real or fake, will not be tolerated and you will receive an automatic 14-day ban for posting/quoting said scans. Discuss it, but DO NOT post the scans.
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Well Duardo suggested a new thread WITHOUT leaked scans, so here it is.
Here is the information (from Little Moa):
Spartan Points
Spartan Points is the new currency system in Halo 4. They will buy things such as armor, armor abilities, Spartan Ops missions (see below), and some
Spartan Ops
This was probably my most favorite addition I saw. From how it was described, think fo Spartan Ops like Spec Ops from Modern Warfare but with a storyline. They will span out over several months, encouraging players to return to the game. Game Informer said that Spartan Ops will be comparable in scope and size to the in single-player storyline.
Why Reds Fight Blues
I think most of us probably guessed this, but reds fight blues and blues fight reds for training purposes. They fight in something called the UNSC Infinity. The UNSC Infinity is a 3km long ship sent into deep space on a mission. It contains a virtual reality sector that creates the multiplayer experience.
Sprint
So not only is sprint in the game, but it is a standard armor ability. You do not need to pick it up, it will always be available. You do not need to buy it with your Spartan Points, you will always have it equipped no matter what. So essentially, you can have two armor abilities.
Forerunner Vision
Ever wanted to be super man? Now you can! See through walls with your x-ray vision! I can't say I hate this armor ability, I haven't used it yet. I'm hoping it comes with its weaknesses and it discourages camping. Sorry guys, but camping in Halo 4 will not be a legitimate tactic.
Returning Armor Abilities
The hologram, jetpack, and active camo will make a return in Halo 4. It didn't elaborate on the abilities, but you can probably assume they'll be about the same.
Elites Not Returning to Multiplayer
Not much detail was given as to why elites will not see multiplayer combat, it was stated in a picture caption. The caption reads, "Competitive multiplayer focues on the Spartan IVs. Elites will not be playable.
Grenades
Now the article itself did not talk about grenades, but I noticed in the picture the Spartan had 4 grenade options. I assume the plasma grenade will return as seen from an explosion in the picture and the frag grenade will most definitely return as seen by the Halo 4 first look video.
Firefight
Once again, no explanation why aside from a picture caption. The caption read, "Halo 4's campaign is still playable with four players online (in reference to Sparan Ops, ensuring players that Spartan Ops will not replace the campaign coop experience). 343 Industries has no plans to include a dedicated Firefight mode. I'm torn on this, I don't normally play firefight, but I feel like it is a standard necessary feature in the game after Halo 3: ODST introduced it.
Regicide
Regicide is a variation of free for all. I think it's similar to VIP. Regicide, as stated by the article, "sets the leading scorer as the king. Every opponent that the king kills raises his bounty; other players have to kill the king to claim the reward."
Distraction and Revenge Medals
Don't feel bad anymore for not killing a single person in the game, you can get a medal for being a distraction! Oh, you just got killed and now you're raging at that player? Calm down and get rewarded for hunting down the guy that just killed you!
Let me make it clear that I do not necessarily see these medals as bad. They just may reward people that don't actually deserve one.
No More Weapon Camping
One the skills that separated veteran players from inexperienced players was the ability to time power weapons' spawns. In Halo 4, this will be near impossible. Weapons drop down in drop pods at random locations around the map. Quoted from the article, "This gives the matches other focal points, and it also helps alleviate the advantage longtime players always used to have over newer recruits; the best weapons are not always going to be found at the same spawn locations." Unless there is a distinguishable skill gap between players, I most definitely do not like this idea.
No More Respawn Delay
Immediately after you die, by tapping the X button you are sent back into the match. Now let's contemplate why this might be bad. Let's say Halo spawns are... not so great. A skilled player out BRs/DMRs/whatevers a unskilled player. Now that unskilled player can immediately respawn and find you before your shields even regenerate! I understand 343 is trying to speed up the game, but they must understand the consequences of instant spawns.
Joining In-Progress Games
So to solve the quitting problem, 343 implemented the ability to join games that are in-progress. My question is are we going to have the ability to search for games starting up instead? It infuriates me to join a game at the last possible second, not even offering me the chance to play.
If you want a source, LOOK FOR IT YOURSELF.
From Neogaf
[url]http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36731047&postcount=14908[/url]
[quote]"For those expecting a podcast release this weekend, don't. All of the information you're getting at this point is from leaked scans of the GI article. As is the case with all cover stories, the magazine needs to start hitting more hands before we offer full clarifications.
I will say this, some of the conclusions that are being reached are not entirely accurate. Some of the mp items mentioned in the story have changed since the media visit. I can't really say too much more at this time, but please be patient while we begin clarifying and answering questions in the near future.
As Frank has said previously, we knew some elements of the Halo mp evolution would be controversial in some circles, while many others would be less so. Keep in mind that none of these design decisions have been made lightly, but have been carefully thought out and continue to be tweaked based on feedback from people playing the game.
And yes, Spartan Ops is as awesome as it sounds. Can't wait to share more."[/quote]
Frankie responds on neogaf:
[quote]The magazine scans were always going to come out the day after the cover debuted, that almost always happens. We can't talk about the story in detail, because it is GI's exclusive. I will say that some of the things that "invested, emotional" players are "raising eyebrows slightly at" [i][b]are being very misinterpreted ("random" weapon spawns for example) [/b][/i]but we will be able to clarify some of those things in due time.
[i][b]Some of the other features, abilities, are also being discussed with no context (not your guys' fault, obviously)[/b][/i] and frankly, a video of TS would probably allay many of the especially hysterical reactions, but we're not there yet.
[i][b]We haven't seen a single reaction we didn't expect[/b][/i] (apart from the Dax love story) and we will clarify a lot of this stuff 100% in the coming weeks and months. SOME of the things in here won't be properly understood outside of a holistic experience (modes, progress, fictional setting, etc) but I am going to say one thing and leave it at that:
It feels like Halo, it does NOT feel or act like the other game(s) it's being compared to. [b][i]Again, without playing it, you can't be blamed for jumping to certain conclusions.[/i][/b][/quote]
[url=http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36732537&postcount=15020]Source[/url]
I understand he wouldn't bad mouth the game, but this does make me feel [i]a little[/i] better. I do understand how things can be over glorified for the sole purpose to cause controversy and make people talk, but I do feel like after reading what Frankie said we're best off waiting before we send 343 500 copies of CoD4 like ME3 fans sent cupcakes.
[Edited on 04.07.2012 9:35 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] What is thiss Because for one, x-ray vision, that is just cheap as hell[/quote] Why? Seems okay to me. How is seeing through a wall any more or less balanced than jumping over it? [quote]two random weapons ruin the fun that was halo.[/quote] wat
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Meek Mill [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hoggs Bison [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Meek Mill Armor Abilities, X-Ray vision and random weapon spawns...SMH[/quote] Anyone wanna tell me [u]why[/u] these are bad? [/quote] Imbalance and alleviating the skill gap.[/quote] Yes, those are words. I think I was looking for more of an explanation, though.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hoggs Bison [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Meek Mill Armor Abilities, X-Ray vision and random weapon spawns...SMH[/quote] Anyone wanna tell me [u]why[/u] these are bad? [/quote] Because for one, x-ray vision, that is just cheap as hell, two random weapons ruin the fun that was halo. AAs are fine
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hoggs Bison [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Meek Mill Armor Abilities, X-Ray vision and random weapon spawns...SMH[/quote] Anyone wanna tell me [u]why[/u] these are bad? [/quote] Imbalance and alleviating the skill gap.
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*Faceplam* This is beyond Denial, your all just beat-blam!- crazy now.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Meek Mill [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] chaos fighter [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Meek Mill [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] chaos fighter [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Meek Mill I'm a little -blam!- that thinks K/D actually matters in life.[/quote]Oh you are?[/quote] This is a Halo thread, not real life. Guess you didn't quite get that.[/quote]A halo 4 thread, and I believe no one has played halo 4 to have a K/D ratio now have they? Oh and it is always -blam!- real life.[/quote] You won't magically grow opposable thumbs and common sense. Your k/d will almost certainly remain below 1.0 in Halo 4.[/quote]I am almost certain that my K/D ratio will not come up in a college/Job interview.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Meek Mill Armor Abilities, X-Ray vision and random weapon spawns...SMH[/quote] Anyone wanna tell me [u]why[/u] these are bad?
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If this turns out to be true, I will be completely disappointed with the new Halo. All those who say Halo is turning into CoD are absolutely right. While that may not seem like a bad thing to some; to me it's terrible. Why waste $60 on a game I already have? (hence why I personally wait until the price drops to buy a new CoD game.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] chaos fighter [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Meek Mill [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] chaos fighter [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Meek Mill [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] chaos fighter [/quote] I'm a little -blam!- that thinks K/D actually matters in life.[/quote]Oh you are?[/quote] This is a Halo thread, not real life. Guess you didn't quite get that.[/quote]A halo 4 thread, and I believe no one has played halo 4 to have a K/D ratio now have they? Oh and it is always -blam!- real life.[/quote] You won't magically grow opposable thumbs and common sense. Your k/d will almost certainly remain below 1.0 in Halo 4.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Meek Mill [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] chaos fighter [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Meek Mill [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] chaos fighter [/quote] I'm a little -blam!- that thinks K/D actually matters in life.[/quote]Oh you are?[/quote] This is a Halo thread, not real life. Guess you didn't quite get that.[/quote]A halo 4 thread, and I believe no one has played halo 4 to have a K/D ratio now have they? Oh and it is always -blam!- real life. Guess you didn't get that. [Edited on 04.07.2012 8:39 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Loktar OGar [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] What is thiss Who's account is that? also I still think its fake[/quote] You're in denial, dude.[/quote] How so? Because I haven't read the actual article? Only scans which could be easily photoshopped? The fact that franky stated himself that there would be a podcast and he left everything unmentioned, but then some random account spouted off the opposite? Once I hear a podcast by 343i or read the actual article from the magazine which hasn't even come out yet
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] chaos fighter [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Meek Mill [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] chaos fighter [/quote] I'm a little -blam!- that thinks K/D actually matters in life.[/quote]Oh you are?[/quote] This is a Halo thread, not real life. Guess you didn't quite get that.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Meek Mill [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] chaos fighter [/quote] I'm a little -blam!- that thinks K/D actually matters in life.[/quote]Oh you are?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] chaos fighter Bla bla my k/d is below 1.0 bla bla[/quote] Ok.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Meek Mill Wow. I thought it was an elaborate troll but it's apparently real. Guess Halo 4 will be garbage like Reach. Armor Abilities, X-Ray vision and random weapon spawns...SMH[/quote]That's nice. Go to sleep now.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] What is thiss Who's account is that? also I still think its fake[/quote] You're in denial, dude.
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Wow. I thought it was an elaborate troll but it's apparently real. Guess Halo 4 will be garbage like Reach. Armor Abilities, X-Ray vision and random weapon spawns...SMH
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Who's account is that? also I still think its fake
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dz272727 David Ellis confirms its real From Neogaf [url]http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36731047&postcount=14908[/url] [quote]"For those expecting a podcast release this weekend, don't. All of the information you're getting at this point is from leaked scans of the GI article. As is the case with all cover stories, the magazine needs to start hitting more hands before we offer full clarifications. I will say this, some of the conclusions that are being reached are not entirely accurate. Some of the mp items mentioned in the story have changed since the media visit. I can't really say too much more at this time, but please be patient while we begin clarifying and answering questions in the near future. As Frank has said previously, we knew some elements of the Halo mp evolution would be controversial in some circles, while many others would be less so. Keep in mind that none of these design decisions have been made lightly, but have been carefully thought out and continue to be tweaked based on feedback from people playing the game. And yes, Spartan Ops is as awesome as it sounds. Can't wait to share more."[/quote] [/quote] OP's all up on the info.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] chaos fighter [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dz272727 David Ellis confirms its real From Neogaf [url]http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36731047&postcount=14908[/url] [quote]"For those expecting a podcast release this weekend, don't. All of the information you're getting at this point is from leaked scans of the GI article. As is the case with all cover stories, the magazine needs to start hitting more hands before we offer full clarifications. I will say this, some of the conclusions that are being reached are not entirely accurate. Some of the mp items mentioned in the story have changed since the media visit. I can't really say too much more at this time, but please be patient while we begin clarifying and answering questions in the near future. As Frank has said previously, we knew some elements of the Halo mp evolution would be controversial in some circles, while many others would be less so. Keep in mind that none of these design decisions have been made lightly, but have been carefully thought out and continue to be tweaked based on feedback from people playing the game. And yes, Spartan Ops is as awesome as it sounds. Can't wait to share more."[/quote] [/quote]FINALLY. EVERYONE SHUT THE HELL UP AND GET OVER IT. /thread[/quote] This, but now that there is no way to deny it, people are just going to Rage. Get you popcorn Guys. [Edited on 04.07.2012 8:35 AM PDT]
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I'm not canceling a pre-order anytime soon because of this. There will definitely a greatly supported Classic side of Multiplayer for everybody that want Classic Halo, 343 like giving you the options between the "new" game and "Classic". Don't judge the Classic on Reach, that was never built to incorporate Classic Halo. If they make Halo 4 from the ground up to support Classic gameplay it will be everything you want. Now, my opinions on the GI leaks: [b][u]Spartan Ops[/u][/b] - I detest the name but having side-missions that add to the story is only a good thing, especially with a weekly release if true. I will however rage if you need to buy some sort of season pass to access it, if not then amazing. [b][u]Sprint for everyone![/u][/b] - No problem with this. It will probably be togglable in Gametype options so you'll have the Classic side of multiplayer without it. If there's no Reach-style Insta-melee, and if there's melee bleedthrough, then I see no problem.s [b][u]Forerunner vision[/u][/b] - It does worry me a bit, I'll admit, but I doubt it will be an available-from-spawn, horrible mess of permanent X-ray vision. Plus, I'm banking on that Classic side of MP. [b][u]AAs[/u][/b] - If the Jetpack isn't just "Fly up, screw cover, spam grenades" like in Reach then it [i]could[/i] work. Maybe a really limited time? Like a couple of seconds? Either way there's no Armour Lock which is awesome. Hologram I have zero problem with. Camo....depends how it works. [b][u]Random weapon spawns[/u][/b] - Again, Classic for those that don't like it. A lot of my argument hinges on that because I'm confident that's what we'll get. I try to ignore the arguments of "That's Halo, that's not Halo" and "Game X has already done that!". If it works well in this game I could care less of it's origins. Random weapon spawns could definitely keep the game flowing nicely. Say, you have to co-ordinate your team to keep moving through the possible spawns rather than just camping around where you know the weapons will spawn. [b][u]Loadouts[/u][/b] - Classic, plus you won't spawn with Rockets. The available weapons will probably just be the utility weapons like AR, BR, DMR, Carbine, Magnum. I'm sure I'll like it. [b][u]Campaign[/u][/b] - Looks amazing. The graphics look epic, especially for the age of the hardware it's on, and the story looks very intriguing.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dz272727 David Ellis confirms its real From Neogaf [url]http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36731047&postcount=14908[/url] [quote]"For those expecting a podcast release this weekend, don't. All of the information you're getting at this point is from leaked scans of the GI article. As is the case with all cover stories, the magazine needs to start hitting more hands before we offer full clarifications. I will say this, some of the conclusions that are being reached are not entirely accurate. Some of the mp items mentioned in the story have changed since the media visit. I can't really say too much more at this time, but please be patient while we begin clarifying and answering questions in the near future. As Frank has said previously, we knew some elements of the Halo mp evolution would be controversial in some circles, while many others would be less so. Keep in mind that none of these design decisions have been made lightly, but have been carefully thought out and continue to be tweaked based on feedback from people playing the game. And yes, Spartan Ops is as awesome as it sounds. Can't wait to share more."[/quote] [/quote]FINALLY. EVERYONE SHUT THE HELL UP AND GET OVER IT. /thread
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David Ellis confirms its real From Neogaf [url]http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36731047&postcount=14908[/url] [quote]"For those expecting a podcast release this weekend, don't. All of the information you're getting at this point is from leaked scans of the GI article. As is the case with all cover stories, the magazine needs to start hitting more hands before we offer full clarifications. I will say this, some of the conclusions that are being reached are not entirely accurate. Some of the mp items mentioned in the story have changed since the media visit. I can't really say too much more at this time, but please be patient while we begin clarifying and answering questions in the near future. As Frank has said previously, we knew some elements of the Halo mp evolution would be controversial in some circles, while many others would be less so. Keep in mind that none of these design decisions have been made lightly, but have been carefully thought out and continue to be tweaked based on feedback from people playing the game. And yes, Spartan Ops is as awesome as it sounds. Can't wait to share more."[/quote]
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LOL You Guys are in some serious denial, like Helen Keller denial. Its Right there, infront of you, proding you, yet you completely ignore it, your not hating, your just scared of change, you have no idea on how to react to it, so you utterly ignore it, dont blame you, its some pretty out there stuff, but you need to snap out of it.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xtremetman85 Random weapon spawns?? Forerunner vision??[/quote] What's bad about either of those? They seem to fit in well with the overall gameplay-- and that's already a step up from how AA's were implemented in Reach.
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God... Random weapon spawns?? Forerunner vision?? What the hell? 343 should honestly just make a "Halo 3 Anniversary Edition". Updated graphics, more maps.. The new forge options. Now I would definitely play that.