Ok idiots, but that isnt a collector it says its a Prothean so it shouldnt look like that at all.

I'm going to be a dick and just ruin everything. Most of the team from the suicide mission die. Ashley/Kaiden go after you taking orders from an indoctrinated Udina. The best good ending has Earth being saved and Shepard becomes a reaper in human form. He is immortal now and can't die. He forces the reapers to leave the galaxy for 50,000 years. Legion is killed by Tali at the end. Bad ending has Earth being destroyed, the reapers are destroyed as well. They control the mass relays and with them gone all the relays turn of making it impossible to communicate with the other species. This pretty much screws everybody over. All this came from the script. Have fun calling me a dick or whatever I won't be here to read your messages.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ToastyWaffles [url=http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100202095561/masseffect/images/thumb/5/5d/ME2CodexProthean.png/280px-ME2CodexProthean.png]In the ME2 Codex this image represents the Protheans.[/url] Kinda misleading?[/quote] The Codex is like a Mass Effect wikipedia in the universe, it's based off the information the galactic races believe is right.[/quote] Touche. I guess Bioware actually hasn't done anything wrong with this one, but it is easy to be misled about the Prothean's appearance.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HipiO7 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Hero of Time [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jross1993 Did you play ME2? It was always stated that Collectors are 're-purposed' Protheans. That's why they look similar. There is no evidence to suggest that what we saw in Mass Effect 1 were Protheans... Or they could've been redesigned.[/quote] Prothean=/=Collector[/quote] You're so wrong, it's not even funny. Prothean = Collector.[/quote] Both of you are wrong. Prothean < Collector. Collectors are Protheans rewritten. They are the same, to an extent. Since Collectors have been around longer overall as a species, they are more than Protheans.

those were never said to be prothean, but i dont blame you for assuming that

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Hero of Time [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jross1993 Did you play ME2? It was always stated that Collectors are 're-purposed' Protheans. That's why they look similar. There is no evidence to suggest that what we saw in Mass Effect 1 were Protheans... Or they could've been redesigned.[/quote] Prothean=/=Collector[/quote] You're so wrong, it's not even funny. Prothean = Collector.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 But if I can't convince you, [url=https://twitter.com/#!/macwalterslives/status/108235612204695552]take the word of a Bioware employee[/url].[/quote][url=http://youtu.be/P4_5jngpLkY]What the hell? Why you link me to this?[/url]

Ok guys...notice the FRIGGIN WIRES coming out of the statues faces and the back of their necks. They are CLEARLY husks!!! Caricatures of their former selves. Husks only vaguely resemble their organic counterparts.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AK 47625714 Yes he does. "One empire, composed of many subjects. All eventually called themselves Prothean.". That's what he says, straight from the script.[/quote] This man is correct.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Plain Ben [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AK 47625714 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ToastyWaffles [url=http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100202095561/masseffect/images/thumb/5/5d/ME2CodexProthean.png/280px-ME2CodexProthean.png]In the ME2 Codex this image represents the Protheans.[/url] Kinda misleading?[/quote]Not really. [b]*SPOILERS DO NOT READ IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE SPOILED*[/b] The Prothean explains that the term "Prothean" refers to any species conquered and absorbed to the Prothean Empire.[/quote]This is what I was thinking beforehand anyway, several races count as Prothean, just like there's several races now.[/quote] If there were multiple races forming the Prothean Empire then why does their architectur all look the same? Asari, turian and salarian architecture is all extremely different yet they primarily form the backbone of the Council races. Ilos and Feros have almost identical architecture in terms of building structures. The Protheans rose from a single planet, and their empire came to span the galaxy without any other intelligent species being found. In a galaxy of peace, they were able to focus on science hence them unlocking the secrets of the relays, and help stop the cycle. But if I can't convince you, [url=https://twitter.com/#!/macwalterslives/status/108235612204695552]take the word of a Bioware employee[/url]. [Edited on 02.23.2012 8:58 AM PST]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AK 47625714 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ToastyWaffles [url=http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100202095561/masseffect/images/thumb/5/5d/ME2CodexProthean.png/280px-ME2CodexProthean.png]In the ME2 Codex this image represents the Protheans.[/url] Kinda misleading?[/quote]Not really. [b]*SPOILERS DO NOT READ IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE SPOILED*[/b] The Prothean explains that the term "Prothean" refers to any species conquered and absorbed to the Prothean Empire.[/quote] No he doesn't, there was only 1 species in the Prothean empire.[/quote]Yes he does. "One empire, composed of many subjects. All eventually called themselves Prothean.". That's what he says, straight from the script. [Edited on 02.23.2012 8:55 AM PST]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spngefan11 God forbid we have a small change in the design of a character that we have technically have never seen before. What are we going to do next? Complain about how Cortana's hair grew between halo 1 and halo 2?[/quote]this, I honestly like the new look better. No one complained when the elites got huger and bulkier after halo 3, or that master chief's armor looks slightly different between halo 2 and 3. Its called artistic license

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AK 47625714 [b]*SPOILERS DO NOT READ IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE SPOILED*[/b] The Prothean explains that the term "Prothean" refers to any species conquered and absorbed to the Prothean Empire.[/quote]This is what I was thinking beforehand, several races counting as Prothean, just like there's several races now. Even if it's not that, I think even Bioware would give an explanation at least. [Edited on 02.23.2012 8:49 AM PST]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AK 47625714 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ToastyWaffles [url=http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100202095561/masseffect/images/thumb/5/5d/ME2CodexProthean.png/280px-ME2CodexProthean.png]In the ME2 Codex this image represents the Protheans.[/url] Kinda misleading?[/quote]Not really. [b]*SPOILERS DO NOT READ IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE SPOILED*[/b] The Prothean explains that the term "Prothean" refers to any species conquered and absorbed to the Prothean Empire.[/quote] No he doesn't, there was only 1 species in the Prothean empire.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ToastyWaffles [url=http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100202095561/masseffect/images/thumb/5/5d/ME2CodexProthean.png/280px-ME2CodexProthean.png]In the ME2 Codex this image represents the Protheans.[/url] Kinda misleading?[/quote]Not really. [b]*SPOILERS DO NOT READ IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE SPOILED*[/b] The Prothean explains that the term "Prothean" refers to any species conquered and absorbed to the Prothean Empire.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ToastyWaffles [url=http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100202095561/masseffect/images/thumb/5/5d/ME2CodexProthean.png/280px-ME2CodexProthean.png]In the ME2 Codex this image represents the Protheans.[/url] Kinda misleading?[/quote] The Codex is like a Mass Effect wikipedia in the universe, it's based off the information the galactic races believe is right.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SRQ baller24 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Obi Wan Stevobi [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Hero of Time [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Obi Wan Stevobi In the story, it states that the galaxy had been wiped of life at least a couple times since the Protheans were around. Now, as far as we know, the process of sentient life evolving takes around a couple hundred million years. So I assume any depiction of the original Protheans is probably a billion years old or so. It seems illogical to me that a species wouldn't change at all over the course of a billion or so years. We have had extreme change of species here on Earth in a mere hundred million years. Considering the Prothean race is at least several million years old, and likely much older, they could plausibly look like just about anything.[/quote]Doesn't evolution require mating though? Since it's a single Prothean I dunno how he'd be able to do it.[/quote] Eh, I read up on it in the Mass Effect wiki. Turns out, Protheans are only supposed to be 50,000 years old. Mass Effect is trying to tell me that all the sentient races in it's Galaxy came about in just a fraction of even a million years. Considering many of the races in Mass effect live well beyond 300 years, their evolution should be even much slower than that of humans. Plus we have to subtract the 5,000 years that the Raepers spent cleaning up the galaxy, and subtract a 5 thousand more years to for the earliest time the ME universe describes sentient species discovering the Citadel, and finally subtract a few thousand more years for the time it took from gaining sentience to deep space travel. So, in Mass Effects world, you can have a great extinction of all sentient life in a galaxy, and have diverse, highly intellegent creatures in a matter of 20,000 years. Even if that is only a few dozen generations generations to long living species. So, I have concluded that Mass Effect is best enjoyed if you just play it with a loose idea of the story, and not question it that much.[/quote] Reapers only wipe out the life that they know about. They wouldn't know about humans, because we had no communication with the rest of the galaxy.[/quote] The wiki says the Reapers combed the galaxy wiping out intelligent species. I take that to most likely mean sentient. Either way, we know that 45,000 years ago, the Asari (or whatever their ancestor at the time was) were not considered intelligent life, and the Reapers spared them. The problem is, Asari live to be 1,000 years old, and as the original discoverers of the Citadel, are known to be traveling through deep space more than 5000 years before the events of the game. So that leaves a 30,000 year time frame in which they went from "unintelligent" to deep space travel. Now for a species that lives a thousand years, and has a generation gap hundreds of years wide, that is a very short time frame to evolve such brain capacity. I would have to assume thy were already highly intelligent at the time of the Protheans, and the characterization of Reapers sweeping the galaxy of intelligence is incorrect, or I would have to believe that a massive, species wide change can occur in just a few dozen generations. Either way, I am forced to disbelieve information the game has presented to me.

We haven't played the game yet. Don't make an assumptions.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Obi Wan Stevobi [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Hero of Time [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Obi Wan Stevobi In the story, it states that the galaxy had been wiped of life at least a couple times since the Protheans were around. Now, as far as we know, the process of sentient life evolving takes around a couple hundred million years. So I assume any depiction of the original Protheans is probably a billion years old or so. It seems illogical to me that a species wouldn't change at all over the course of a billion or so years. We have had extreme change of species here on Earth in a mere hundred million years. Considering the Prothean race is at least several million years old, and likely much older, they could plausibly look like just about anything.[/quote]Doesn't evolution require mating though? Since it's a single Prothean I dunno how he'd be able to do it.[/quote] Eh, I read up on it in the Mass Effect wiki. Turns out, Protheans are only supposed to be 50,000 years old. Mass Effect is trying to tell me that all the sentient races in it's Galaxy came about in just a fraction of even a million years. Considering many of the races in Mass effect live well beyond 300 years, their evolution should be even much slower than that of humans. Plus we have to subtract the 5,000 years that the Raepers spent cleaning up the galaxy, and subtract a 5 thousand more years to for the earliest time the ME universe describes sentient species discovering the Citadel, and finally subtract a few thousand more years for the time it took from gaining sentience to deep space travel. So, in Mass Effects world, you can have a great extinction of all sentient life in a galaxy, and have diverse, highly intellegent creatures in a matter of 20,000 years. Even if that is only a few dozen generations generations to long living species. So, I have concluded that Mass Effect is best enjoyed if you just play it with a loose idea of the story, and not question it that much.[/quote]Civilisations advanced through Reaper technology. The Reapers left the relays and the Citadel for species to find, and build technology from, so that when the Reapers returned, they would have more powerful weapons than the races they came to destroy. Only this time, Shepherd says no.

[url=http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100202095561/masseffect/images/thumb/5/5d/ME2CodexProthean.png/280px-ME2CodexProthean.png]In the ME2 Codex this image represents the Protheans.[/url] Kinda misleading?

The statues on Ilos aren't Prothean, they're Isuannon (the race before the Protheans). In the script, Javik explains that Ilos was nothing more than speculation in his lifetime, nobody really knew if it existed or not so whatever the scientists were doing there was kept very secret. [Edited on 02.23.2012 8:40 AM PST]

They are both Protheans. There is no retcon.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AquaBlader [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mr Pinata Apparently it's stated in the ME3 script that the protheans were like the romans. Everyone conquered by them became prothean and the prothean squadmates race was the one used to make the collectors.[/quote] :D[/quote] So now the Protheans are related to the Forerunners? Because from what I've gathered that's exactly what the Forerunners did.

Maybe it was like half-transformed or something. I don't know. Something stupid is lurking about.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mr Pinata Apparently it's stated in the ME3 script that the protheans were like the romans. Everyone conquered by them became prothean and the prothean squadmates race was the one used to make the collectors.[/quote] :D

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Obi Wan Stevobi [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Hero of Time [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Obi Wan Stevobi In the story, it states that the galaxy had been wiped of life at least a couple times since the Protheans were around. Now, as far as we know, the process of sentient life evolving takes around a couple hundred million years. So I assume any depiction of the original Protheans is probably a billion years old or so. It seems illogical to me that a species wouldn't change at all over the course of a billion or so years. We have had extreme change of species here on Earth in a mere hundred million years. Considering the Prothean race is at least several million years old, and likely much older, they could plausibly look like just about anything.[/quote]Doesn't evolution require mating though? Since it's a single Prothean I dunno how he'd be able to do it.[/quote] Eh, I read up on it in the Mass Effect wiki. Turns out, Protheans are only supposed to be 50,000 years old. Mass Effect is trying to tell me that all the sentient races in it's Galaxy came about in just a fraction of even a million years. Considering many of the races in Mass effect live well beyond 300 years, their evolution should be even much slower than that of humans. Plus we have to subtract the 5,000 years that the Raepers spent cleaning up the galaxy, and subtract a 5 thousand more years to for the earliest time the ME universe describes sentient species discovering the Citadel, and finally subtract a few thousand more years for the time it took from gaining sentience to deep space travel. So, in Mass Effects world, you can have a great extinction of all sentient life in a galaxy, and have diverse, highly intellegent creatures in a matter of 20,000 years. Even if that is only a few dozen generations generations to long living species. So, I have concluded that Mass Effect is best enjoyed if you just play it with a loose idea of the story, and not question it that much.[/quote] I like to think that the Reapers only targeted species that were intelligent enough to be a threat to them. Chances are Humanity was around at that time (in fact wasn't it confirmed?) but as cave men. I like to believe that the Reapers found humanity and ignored them because they were not a threat and would, in 50,000 years, evolve to become a sentient species that the Reapers could destroy. If they wiped out all living beings in a galaxy then the chances of the galaxy repopulating at all is slim, especially in 50,000 years.