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12/2/2011 7:24:51 AM
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Why didn't Bungie ever fix Halo 2's glitches?
Not sure if there was some sort of technicality, but there were a lot of game breaking glitches in Halo 2 (BXR, BXB, etc.)
How come they never fixed them?
I wasn't on bungie.net very often around the Halo 2 era and I'm not sure if this was ever brought to light by Bungie or not.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] sdnomdE[/quote]You didn't read the rest of Grumpy and I's conversation, huh? He already showed me that it's not exactly different. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Z71ON[/quote]I suggest trying to post in paragraphs. If you don't it looks messy and turns around 80% of people away from reading your post. From skimming through what you wrote I can see that you were just going on about how great the glitches were. I already stated earlier that it was [i]not[/i] because the glitches were "cool" that they didn't remove them. The reason they didn't was because they couldn't. The ones that they could, they did. (Ex. Sword flying) The glitches were awesome, but Bungie definitely would have fixed them if they could have. It's not a part of how they intended the game to function and therefore would have felt it best to fix it like any other glitch. [Edited on 12.18.2011 5:34 PM PST]
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In my opinion the glitches made the game what it is. I always enjoyed trying to bounce in snipes or team slayer just to somehow get an advantage over the other team, or if someone else bounces with a sniper or something it was always fun to try and snipe them down, like on burial mounds or ascension. I remember spending hours when I first heard you could double shot, I couldn't believe it and spent like 5 months just trying to be able to use it in matchmaking / customs, I don't know if many of you attempt the double / quad shot but I try for it every time and I'd rather get it or die trying lol which is usually what I would do, which has costed me a lot of games and deaths. It was just so rewarding to finally learn a super bounce and use it in matchmaking to your advantage or to plant a 1-2 double or a quad on somebody haha in my opinion it made a statement and was just so rewarding to finally get one in game, since it was something no other game had, something extremely difficult to do that you actually had to practice. Still to this day I cant do the relic triple bounce though, I've spent days trying to do it and could never get the right height on the 3rd bounce =/.
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I would blame Stosh but in this particular case, it's mostly Rex's fault.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] pizzaguy199[/quote]Dammit, now I'm hungry for pizza.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] InvasionImminent [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Super PolarBear Superbounces absolutely broke Matchmaking in certain playlists.[/quote] Broke custom games too. My brother would super bounce on top of the roof on zanzibar with sniper and stay there the entire time.[/quote]^ Haha
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SuperBounces were fixed in H2V due to a updated Havok, and the button glitches could not have been fixed with a simple TU, which is why they checked H3 for glitches.....even though there are a few in that.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dr Syx [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] InvasionImminent I don't think they can bring those back to be honest. I'm not sure how 343i creates remakes, but there are some left out CE glitches that go deeper in to the coding.[/quote]Like what? Combat Evolved Anniversary [i]is[/i] Halo: Combat Evolved with a mask on it to make it look modern. It [i]is[/i] the exact same coding. What glitches aren't in Anniversary that were in Combat Evolved?[/quote] Actually, no. Halo Anniversary functions a lot like Halo 1, but not quite the same. For instance, [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsSeXxySj2s]this[/url] classic trick doesn't work at all in CEA; the bumping simply doesn't happen, and the same is true in areas like the elevator control panels on AotCR. I'm not sure how extensive the differences are, but I've been investigating them a little as part of a review. I've found at least very minor examples of differences in several facets of the game mechanics. [Edited on 12.11.2011 4:13 PM PST]
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Thanks for the answers fellas. It was very insightful.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] l bAlleRliCoius I completely understand man. Most of the time I post because I like to see my emblem haha.[/quote]Rofl! I have to admit, I do that too. xD [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Grumpy1 It's all good pal, you know I like you.[/quote]:) <3 [Edited on 12.04.2011 7:48 AM PST]
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They were animation subsystem problems, which was beyond the scope of the patch size limits and I think it would have also broken LAN inter-operation to even fix them at that point. It would have more than likely required re-shipping all the maps in any case. It didn't get fixed for Vista becaue Hired Gun was created to port the game and be dissolved. Something involved like digging into the animation system and fixing it was beyond their job title, and superbouncing was fixed (as mentioned earlier in the threaD) simply by upgrading to the latest Havok.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dr Syx [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] l bAlleRliCoius The glitches in H2 added a whole other element to the game. [/quote]I agree with you, but what's the point in saying it if everyone else already has? It's like a broken record. It annoys me yet I agree with it. Isn't that a bit silly?[/quote] I completely understand man. Most of the time I post because I like to see my emblem haha.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dr Syx [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Grumpy1 OK man.[/quote]I didn't mean any disrespect by all of that. I completely support everyone's cause here, but I still think it shouldn't be so repetitive. I understand the repetitive threads asking for Halo 2. I understand how that's productive towards something to happen with it. Frankie has even mentioned that he has noticed how the fans want something to be done. It's just the repetitive inside the threads that have nothing to add to the thought that get me.[/quote]It's all good pal, you know I like you.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dr Syx At that point you're just like the "MINE!" birds on Finding Nemo.[/quote] I love that movie.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Grumpy1 OK man.[/quote]I didn't mean any disrespect by all of that. I completely support everyone's cause here, but I still think it shouldn't be so repetitive. I understand the repetitive threads asking for Halo 2. I understand how that's productive towards something to happen with it. Frankie has even mentioned that he has noticed how the fans want something to be done. It's just the repetitive inside the threads that have nothing to add to the thought that get me.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dr Syx I'm talking about specifically in this thread. It's not keeping up the chatter if someone repeats something someone else said adding no further insight to the thread. Talk about what you [i]did[/i] love about glitching. Where your favorite maps was to. Talk about exactly how it added another element. If you don't do that you're just copy and pasting what other people have said. At that point you're just like the "MINE!" birds on Finding Nemo.[/quote] You know Syx, you really are great.
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OK man.
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I'm talking about specifically in this thread. It's not keeping up the chatter if someone repeats something someone else said adding no further insight to the thread. Talk about what you [i]did[/i] love about glitching. Where your favorite maps was to. Talk about exactly how it added another element. If you don't do that you're just copy and pasting what other people have said. At that point you're just like the "MINE!" birds on Finding Nemo.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dr Syx [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] l bAlleRliCoius The glitches in H2 added a whole other element to the game. [/quote]I agree with you, but what's the point in saying it if everyone else already has? It's like a broken record. It annoys me yet I agree with it. Isn't that a bit silly?[/quote]Well, it's an old game, it's not on Live and one of the ways to get it back is to keep up the chatter about it, so you're right, most is old news but there's still a certain joy in discussions about it. Heh, if we said only new things we would not exist at this point. I came for the Halo 2 and stayed because of the people here.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] l bAlleRliCoius The glitches in H2 added a whole other element to the game. [/quote]I agree with you, but what's the point in saying it if everyone else already has? It's like a broken record. It annoys me yet I agree with it. Isn't that a bit silly?
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The glitches in H2 added a whole other element to the game.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Super PolarBear Superbounces absolutely broke Matchmaking in certain playlists.[/quote] Broke custom games too. My brother would super bounce on top of the roof on zanzibar with sniper and stay there the entire time.
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Superbounces absolutely broke Matchmaking in certain playlists.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Chief077 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] path1k the glitches made the game extra special, even if it was used against you[/quote] This. The glitches made the game a lot more interesting even after you finish the campaign.[/quote]He never asked what people thought of the glitches. He asked why Bungie didn't patch them. I already gave the real answer as to why they didn't patch it. [Edited on 12.03.2011 8:15 AM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] path1k the glitches made the game extra special, even if it was used against you[/quote] This. The glitches made the game a lot more interesting even after you finish the campaign.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dr Syx I should and I will! I've already kicked myself for not knowing about this after the 10 years playing this game, so I owe it to myself to check it out. Thanks! Edit: Wow. It is disappointing that they failed to actually make the rest of the out of bounds portions of the maps. At least you can still do it in the original graphics. Not completely lost. :P[/quote]Yup, it's fascinating watching the vids and reading what they say, you know it's not bull, they test everything.
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I should and I will! I've already kicked myself for not knowing about this after the 10 years playing this game, so I owe it to myself to check it out. Thanks! Edit: Wow. It is disappointing that they failed to actually make the rest of the out of bounds portions of the maps. At least you can still do it in the original graphics. Not completely lost. :P [Edited on 12.02.2011 9:32 PM PST]
