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Sergeant Johnson- A SPARTAN I? (Updated)

[b] READ THE FIRST TWO POSTS BEFORE YOU CLICK THE REPLY BUTTON [/b] The update is at the bottom of the second post. HALO GRAPHIC NOVEL SPOILERS BELOW. I have been suspicious of Johnson sense I read the Fall of Reach and learned that he was on Gamma Station. I’ve always thought that he was more than just a normal marine. I even suggested that he did not have borens syndrome. Of course, I was called crazy and people to me that he was just a normal marine, there was nothing more too him, and he did have Borens syndrome. Now I’m going to show you my new evidence that Johnson is NOT a normal marine, and that the Borens Syndrome was just a cover for something else. Those of you who have the Halo Graphic Novel have seen page 122, by Robert Mclees. In the upper left conner of the page there is something that says [quote] Project: ORION\RESTRICTED ACESS NavSpecWarCom \\GrONE\SnTmA\sn Projetc: ORION\RESTRCITED ACESS CRPL Johnson, Avery Junior 48789-2094-AJ System: HARVEST Operation: KALEIDOSCOPE 2502.(I can’t read the rest of the date) [/quote] What is Project Orion? We find out on page 16 of The Flood [quote] In order to deal with increasing civil turmoil the Colonial Military Administration had secretly launched Project ORION back in 2491. The purpose of the program was to develop super soldiers codenamed “Spartans,” who would receive special training and physical augmentation. The Initial effort was successful, and in 2517 a new group of Spartans , the II-series, had been selected as the new generation of supersoldier. [/quote] I think that this shows that Avery Johnson is a Spartan I. We learn that he was with Projetc ORION, which was the Spartan program. The date is 2502, which is before the Spartan II were selected, which would mean that he is a Spartan I. There is even more evidence on page 122 that Johnson is a Spartan I. There are two main boxes of text on the page. One is a log of a chat between two people. The other appears to be a log of a data query. They are both very interesting. [quote] 2552:09:12:15:25:30:08 - 2552:09:12:15(rest is hidden behind photograph) mike44236: No, this is not a thinly veiled attempt to query how many ones are still active. I am merely trying to discern what is up with this interest spike on alpha juliett juliett 20114? echo23023: I don't know? His current proximity to one of the two MB? Isn't all that junk automated? mike44236: Thanx and yes. The query was intercepted with the Paris/BS spoof. But what am I supposed to do now? echo23023: Whaddayamean? Send counter-query right? Isn't there anyone local? WTF?RUnoobMB? mike44236: Ha ha ha :-P. The query is from the Gettysburg and it's got charlie hotel 4695's thumbs all over it. echo23023: First that ass juliett alpha 20101: now, that goddamn [i]charlie hotel 4695!?! It sounds like a big red button time to me, cupcake! I guess the whelps see all the grey hair and figure they can run willy-nilly through their elders secret dells. mike4436: Umm..that's what it sounds like to me, too. But you see the pickle I'm in now, don't you? Uh...The Young Masters may be wise in the ways of magick but the Sorcerer Kings have not yet--- echo23023: WTF!?! Lolz!!!!one! Wise in the ways of MAGICK!?! Sorcerer Kings?2?!?!! Roflmao!!!!!!!eleven!! mike4436: Ok fine! You can make allusions about wolves you SOB but when I try to get creative you've gotta be a total--- echo23023: Sorry sorry! Look I didn't mean it like that. Anyways... what level is your elf wizard? (^o^) hehehe! mike4436: Sooooo... alpha20101 and hotel4696 have both made queries and even though both of them have deep deep access, the files they are looking for are SEALED from the TOP and are STICKY to boot! echo23023: Either of them given you reason to suspect juliett20114 is a one? didn't counter-query- didn't want to heap that kind of grief on any of ours- so I gave it a red check and forwarded it to Section 0. echo23023: Well, that's a bit like spinning the cylinder, isn't it? That hammer's gonna drop eventually. mike4436: Yeah, but not on me! Not with golf51979 as Section Head. he was top at Misriah, MISRIAH for Pete's sake! echo23023: And for some reason you don't think it was a political move? Alpha20101 was a yoan gahn dur tzan sze at one time too, right? mike4436: Be that as it may, golf51979 doesn't play that fiefdom crap like tango27(rest of numbers hidden behind photograph)did. Golf51979 was a military appointment . Sierral10852 was executed for the Herzog killing. echo23023: Oh no you didn't! [/quote] [quote] [b] Proof of data query “spoof” voluntarily submitted after submission of official release of information request [/b] 2552:09:12:04:16:22:01 C:\>sftp-ks 1024 sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil Connecting to ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil (1024 mbit tunnel) Connected to ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil 220 ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil SFTP server ready User (ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil:(none)): HALSEYSRB4695 Password: < > sftp> hash Hash mark printing on (1024 bytes /hash mark). sftp> get 48789-20114-AJ.txt 450 file unavailable, please retry sftp> get 48789-20114-AJ.txt 200 PORT command okay. 150 Opening data connection for 48789-20114-AJ.txt(FAE;144:FEAC:67:CCF8187:AEAA:81:322). ################### 226 Transfer complete. 16494 bytes sent in 0.98 seconds (16 Kbytes/s) hunter>watching *;*;*;*;*;*;* sftp.marmedrec.mil (ARP) hunter> sftp init EA15EE95CE32:EE28:AA34:3:3283:EA83 *> sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil [1024 mbit tunnel] hunter>RACE START sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil [36k CPU utl] hunter> hunter> hunter> hunter> RACE FINISHED [1024 mbit tunnel in 0.239238s] rly sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil blk PUT:GET:SEND hunter> sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil> Connected to ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil hunter> sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil> ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil SFTP server ready hunter> sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil> User (ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil:(none)): hunter> EA15EE95CE32:EE28:AA34:3:3283:EA83> HALSEYSRB4695 hunter> sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil> Password: hunter> EA15EE95CE32:EE28:AA34:3:3283:EA83> dOc7OR$Ord3r5 < < Login page data excised for brevity > > hunter> EA15EE95CE32:EE28:AA34:3:3283:EA83>hash hunter> sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil> hash mark printing on (1024 bytes/has mark) hunter> EA15EE95CE32:EE28:AA34:3:3283:EA83>get 48789-20114-AJ.txt hunter> BLK 48789-20114-AJ.txt RPUT c:\files\P_BS48789-2011-AJ.txt ON NEXT GET hunter> EA15EE95CE32:EE28:AA34:3:3283:EA83>get 48789-20114-AJ.txt hunter> PUT c:\files\P-BS48789-20114-AJ.txt hunter> 200 PORT command okay. Hunter> 150 Opening data connection for 48789-20114-AJ.txt(FAE;144:FEAC:67:CCF8187:AEAA:81:322). hunter> ########### hunter> 226 transfer complete hunter> 16494 bytes sent in 0.98 seconds (16 Tbytes/s) [/quote] Take a look at the chat log. [quote] 2552:09:12:15:25:30:08 - 2552:09:12:15(rest is hidden behind photograph) mike44236: No, this is not a thinly veiled attempt to query how many [I] ones [/I] are still active. I am merely trying to discern what is up with this interest spike on alpha juliett juliett 20114? [/quote] First take a look at the date. September 12th, 2552. At this time the Gettysburg, is in slipspace heading towards to the rebel asteroid base. This is a short time after Dr Halsey talks to John about Johnson and how he survived the Flood. When Mike is talking about ones I think he is taking about the Spartans Is. I think that alpha juliett juliett 20114 is Johnson. I’ll go into my reasoning a little later. quote] echo23023: I don't know? His current proximity to one of the twos MB? Isn't all that junk automated? [/quote] By “twos” I think echo mean the Spartan-IIs. Johnson is in close proximity with John. [quote] mike44236: Thanx and yes. The query was intercepted with the Paris/BS spoof. But what am I supposed to do now? [/quote] “Paris/BS spoof” What could that be… On page 244 of First Strike Dr. Halsey tells Jon that Johnson wasn’t infected by the flood because he had [b]B[/b]orens [b]S[/b]yndrome. The Boren’s Syndrome was caused by exposure to radiation when Johnson used a full crate of plasma grenades on [b] Paris [/b] IV. See the connection? Boren’s Syndrome is abbreviated to BS. Paris is Paris IV. It was a spoof, a hoax. Of course, I doubt that Dr. Halsey knew that it was a hoax. [quote] Ha ha ha :-P. The query is from the Gettysburg and it's got charlie hotel 4695's thumbs all over it. [/quote] This is part of what makes me think that alpha juliett juliett 20114 is Johnson. Dr. Halsey is charlie hotel 4695. Charlie Hotel=CH=Catherine Halsey. When she was on the Gettysburg she did a query to get the medical records of Johnson. This conversation takes place a few hours after she talked to John about Johnson’s medical conditions. To find out more we have to look at the the query that Dr. Halsey sent: [quote] 2552:09:12:04:16:22:01 C:\>sftp-ks 1024 sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil Connecting to ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil (1024 mbit tunnel) Connected to ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil 220 ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil SFTP server ready User (ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil:(none)): HALSEYSRB4695 Password: [/quote] The first thing to look at is the Date/time stamp. This was sent about 15 minutes before Halsey talked to John about Johnson condition. We can assume that Halsey is sending this because of the username, which is HALSEYSRB4695. This also confirms that Halsey is Charlie Hotel 4695. She is connecting to unsc.marmedrec.mil. I’m guessing that this is a medical facility because of the “med” in the name. [Edited on 12.16.2007 4:32 PM PST]
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  • wait i thought that cortana didnt know about it

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  • you are the greatest therie writer ever to log in to bungie!!!!!!! (except 4 bungie). I just still dont get why Dr. Hasely kidnapped kelly in First Strike!!!!! P.S.- Johnson has 2 be a spartan-1 most evidence points towards ur statament!. [Edited on 04.15.2007 12:35 PM PDT]

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  • Johnson is a S-I i say

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Maico I found this interesting as per events on harvest and Dr. Hasely not knowing too much about the original spartan project. The questions i have here are, how does cortana know all this, not only that but this is 2 years before the events on Alpha Halo even took place! What else does cortana know? And why doesnt Dr. Hasley know about any of this? Sure cortana could have just hacked the ONI database and snatched some of the information but that doesnt explain why she hasnt told Dr. Hasley who is in essence her creator. [/quote]\ I'm guessing that she got the information from hacking into ONI databases. I have no idea why she doesn't share that information with Dr. Halsey.

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  • Clearly. Besides, the spartans of sparta are called Spartans. There can also be Spartan I's, and SPartan II's. [0,1,2] Since when dose a secret project have to start at 1? The first SPartans wernt called Spartan I's. No, thats what Johnson is.

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  • Theres another small hint of info that Cortana hints at in the small conversations in the universe booklet that came with Halo 2. She is discussing the role of themselves (AI) and the spartans with another AI called Solipsil. At one point the convo goes as such S - "They (spartans) have some legal recourse, even under the terms of their military contract." C - "In theory, but it has never happend once in the history of the Spartan II project. The original spartans had the advantage of a former civilian existence. Spartan IIs are equipment. And for better or worse, they're effectively brainwashed." I found this interesting as per events on harvest and Dr. Hasely not knowing too much about the original spartan project. The questions i have here are, how does cortana know all this, not only that but this is 2 years before the events on Alpha Halo even took place! What else does cortana know? And why doesnt Dr. Hasley know about any of this? Sure cortana could have just hacked the ONI database and snatched some of the information but that doesnt explain why she hasnt told Dr. Hasley who is in essence her creator. Also this absolutely conferms the fact that the spartan I project is in fact a real project and not the spartans of sparta. This information worries me for later, because if Cortana knows this information and the gravemind now has control of her, perhaps the flood will evolve. But that aside, i thought this was an interesting tid-bit of information. discuss freely

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] soulguard [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Evil Chipmunk What's to say that he was a Spartian I, and still have Borens syndrome. [/quote] I'm all for being a Spartan I, but could he not also have Borens? ~soulguard [/quote] It's possible that he does have Boren's Syndrome, just that he didn't get it from using a crate of Plasma Grenades on Paris IV. Right now I think that he doesn't have Boren's Syndrome, but I've gone back and forth between believing that he does have and believing that it was all a hoax.l

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  • Read the first page. Opog gave evidence that Johnsons Borens Syndrome was BS and a cover story created by ONI. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] soulguard [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Evil Chipmunk What's to say that he was a Spartian I, and still have Borens syndrome. [/quote] I'm all for being a Spartan I, but could he not also have Borens? ~soulguard [/quote]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Evil Chipmunk What's to say that he was a Spartian I, and still have Borens syndrome. [/quote] I'm all for being a Spartan I, but could he not also have Borens? ~soulguard

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BruteEatingGrunt INSANE LOGIC! I always noticed something about Johnson... We was way to cocky, way to straightforward to be your 'everyday marine'. The only thing that could seem to prove this wrong is that Johnson never seems to be 'with you' in Halo 2. I don't remember him kicking alien butt as often as that 'Gonzalez' Mexican dude that seems to folow you everywhere, or that annoying Brit, but it could be highly possible that Sarge is indeed a TYPE 1. Signing out.[/quote] Characters were recycled during the game. It's easier than making up new marine models for every encounter where there are marines. Even Johnson was recycled durring the game. [Edited on 04.04.2007 8:07 AM PDT]

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  • INSANE LOGIC! I always noticed something about Johnson... We was way to cocky, way to straightforward to be your 'everyday marine'. The only thing that could seem to prove this wrong is that Johnson never seems to be 'with you' in Halo 2. I don't remember him kicking alien butt as often as that 'Gonzalez' Mexican dude that seems to folow you everywhere, or that annoying Brit, but it could be highly possible that Sarge is indeed a TYPE 1. Signing out.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SiN Struck Johnson isnt 500 years old you dip[/quote] Who is saying that Johnson is 500 years old? [Edited on 03.30.2007 8:59 AM PDT]

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  • Johnson isnt 500 years old you dip

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  • What's to say that he was a Spartian I, and still have Borens syndrome. If you read how he got Borens syndrome, it sounds pretty kick-ass. He could very well be a Spartian I, and was released when he aquired Borens syndrome.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A Fr1ends Fr1end Borens syndrome was caused by a mutation caused by the radiation from the plasma grenades..... [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] masterchiefloser yet again I will say this: GENES and DNA are the causes of most syndromes and genetic disorders. I have read the novels. I see no evidence of him being a Spartan I. He was part of project ORION, I know that. Have you ever considered that he was a drill sergeant or some other leader overseeing the Spartan I's?[/quote][/quote] That's what Dr. Hasey said. And Dr. Halsey's information was coming from a fake file planted by ONI to keep people from getting Johnson's real medical records. [Edited on 03.30.2007 8:47 AM PDT]

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  • If they found a Forerunner artifact on Harvest perhaps that could have contained evidence of Floor DNA? Like now we have sent signals into space containing our DNA coding and such, perhaps the Forerunners did the same?

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  • [quote] I see no evidence of him being a Spartan I.[/quote] Dr. Halsey talks to John about Sergeant Johnson and how he contracted Boren's Syndrome on September 12 at 0450. At 0416 on the same day she tries to get a file called 48789-20114-AJ.txt from marmedrec. At 1525 two ONI operatives discuss the interest on alpha juliett juliett 20114. They say that Charlie Hotel on the Gettysburg quired information on alpha juliett juliett, and the query was intercepted with the Paris/BS spoof. They then mention that alpha juliett juliett is a one, and that he is in close proximity to one of the twos. That is the evidence for Johnson being a Spartan I.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A Fr1ends Fr1end Borens syndrome was caused by a mutation caused by the radiation from the plasma grenades..... [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] masterchiefloser yet again I will say this: GENES and DNA are the causes of most syndromes and genetic disorders. I have read the novels. I see no evidence of him being a Spartan I. He was part of project ORION, I know that. Have you ever considered that he was a drill sergeant or some other leader overseeing the Spartan I's?[/quote][/quote] So true.

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  • Borens syndrome was caused by a mutation caused by the radiation from the plasma grenades..... [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] masterchiefloser yet again I will say this: GENES and DNA are the causes of most syndromes and genetic disorders. I have read the novels. I see no evidence of him being a Spartan I. He was part of project ORION, I know that. Have you ever considered that he was a drill sergeant or some other leader overseeing the Spartan I's?[/quote]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] masterchiefloser yet again I will say this: GENES and DNA are the causes of most syndromes and genetic disorders. I have read the novels. I see no evidence of him being a Spartan I. He was part of project ORION, I know that. Have you ever considered that he was a drill sergeant or some other leader overseeing the Spartan I's?[/quote] dont argue with opog he said its attack srg. nervous system it has nothing to do with dna [Edited on 03.29.2007 2:55 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] masterchiefloser yet again I will say this: GENES and DNA are the causes of most syndromes and genetic disorders. I have read the novels. I see no evidence of him being a Spartan I. He was part of project ORION, I know that. Have you ever considered that he was a drill sergeant or some other leader overseeing the Spartan I's?[/quote] He would have to be over 100 years old for that.

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  • yet again I will say this: GENES and DNA are the causes of most syndromes and genetic disorders. I have read the novels. I see no evidence of him being a Spartan I. He was part of project ORION, I know that. Have you ever considered that he was a drill sergeant or some other leader overseeing the Spartan I's?

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    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] masterchiefloser Yes. It's Boren's syndrome, which amazingly, he had because of the way his DNA was made up. Genes are just large groups of DNA. Therefore a gene WAS responsible for why he was immune.[/quote]Read the graphic novel, hell, read all the novels. All clues point out to him being a Spartan I.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] masterchiefloser I really hate to have to be the one to say this, but Johnson is not a S1. [/quote] So why was he a part of Project ORION? [quote] There's a reason for this that was stated in [i]First Strike[/i] [/quote] First Strike never gives a reason that he is not a Spartan I. [quote] There was a specific gene Johnson had that made him immune to the Flood's disease of taking over the person's body. [/quote] First Strike says that he had Boren's Syndrome, which disrupted his nervous syndrome so that the Flood couldn't force a match. Dr. Halsey said that this was caused by using an entire crate of plasma grenades on Paris IV. In the Halo Graphic Novel we learn that when Dr. Halsey tried to get Johnson's medical information she got the "Paris/BS spoof" The Boren's Syndrome is not the reason for his survival.

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  • Yes. It's Boren's syndrome, which amazingly, he had because of the way his DNA was made up. Genes are just large groups of DNA. Therefore a gene WAS responsible for why he was immune.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] masterchiefloser I really hate to have to be the one to say this, but Johnson is not a S1. There's a reason for this that was stated in [i]First Strike[/i] (I'll post the quote to back myself up later). There was a specific gene Johnson had that made him immune to the Flood's disease of taking over the person's body. (this could also support any "forerunners are humans" theories. Ruling out a mutation, why would there be a gene in the human genetic makeup for it?)[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] masterchiefloser I really hate to have to be the one to say this, but Johnson is not a S1. There's a reason for this that was stated in [i]First Strike[/i] (I'll post the quote to back myself up later). There was a specific gene Johnson had that made him immune to the Flood's disease of taking over the person's body. (this could also support any "forerunners are humans" theories. Ruling out a mutation, why would there be a gene in the human genetic makeup for it?)[/quote] omg.... its boren syndrom its not a gene

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