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8/9/2006 5:56:39 PM
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Sergeant Johnson- A SPARTAN I? (Updated)
[b] READ THE FIRST TWO POSTS BEFORE YOU CLICK THE REPLY BUTTON [/b]
The update is at the bottom of the second post.
HALO GRAPHIC NOVEL SPOILERS BELOW.
I have been suspicious of Johnson sense I read the Fall of Reach and learned that he was on Gamma Station. I’ve always thought that he was more than just a normal marine. I even suggested that he did not have borens syndrome. Of course, I was called crazy and people to me that he was just a normal marine, there was nothing more too him, and he did have Borens syndrome.
Now I’m going to show you my new evidence that Johnson is NOT a normal marine, and that the Borens Syndrome was just a cover for something else.
Those of you who have the Halo Graphic Novel have seen page 122, by Robert Mclees. In the upper left conner of the page there is something that says
[quote] Project: ORION\RESTRICTED ACESS
NavSpecWarCom
\\GrONE\SnTmA\sn
Projetc: ORION\RESTRCITED ACESS
CRPL Johnson, Avery Junior
48789-2094-AJ
System: HARVEST
Operation: KALEIDOSCOPE
2502.(I can’t read the rest of the date)
[/quote]
What is Project Orion? We find out on page 16 of The Flood
[quote] In order to deal with increasing civil turmoil the Colonial Military Administration had secretly launched Project ORION back in 2491. The purpose of the program was to develop super soldiers codenamed “Spartans,” who would receive special training and physical augmentation.
The Initial effort was successful, and in 2517 a new group of Spartans , the II-series, had been selected as the new generation of supersoldier. [/quote]
I think that this shows that Avery Johnson is a Spartan I. We learn that he was with Projetc ORION, which was the Spartan program. The date is 2502, which is before the Spartan II were selected, which would mean that he is a Spartan I. There is even more evidence on page 122 that Johnson is a Spartan I.
There are two main boxes of text on the page. One is a log of a chat between two people. The other appears to be a log of a data query. They are both very interesting.
[quote] 2552:09:12:15:25:30:08 - 2552:09:12:15(rest is hidden behind photograph)
mike44236: No, this is not a thinly veiled attempt to query how many ones are still active. I am merely trying to discern what is up with this interest spike on alpha juliett juliett 20114?
echo23023: I don't know? His current proximity to one of the two MB? Isn't all that junk automated?
mike44236: Thanx and yes. The query was intercepted with the Paris/BS spoof. But what am I supposed to do now?
echo23023: Whaddayamean? Send counter-query right? Isn't there anyone local? WTF?RUnoobMB?
mike44236: Ha ha ha :-P. The query is from the Gettysburg and it's got charlie hotel 4695's thumbs all over it.
echo23023: First that ass juliett alpha 20101: now, that goddamn [i]charlie hotel 4695!?! It sounds like a big red button time to me, cupcake! I guess the whelps see all the grey hair and figure they can run willy-nilly through their elders secret dells.
mike4436: Umm..that's what it sounds like to me, too. But you see the pickle I'm in now, don't you? Uh...The Young Masters may be wise in the ways of magick but the Sorcerer Kings have not yet---
echo23023: WTF!?! Lolz!!!!one! Wise in the ways of MAGICK!?! Sorcerer Kings?2?!?!! Roflmao!!!!!!!eleven!!
mike4436: Ok fine! You can make allusions about wolves you SOB but when I try to get creative you've gotta be a total---
echo23023: Sorry sorry! Look I didn't mean it like that. Anyways... what level is your elf wizard? (^o^) hehehe!
mike4436: Sooooo... alpha20101 and hotel4696 have both made queries and even though both of them have deep deep access, the files they are looking for are SEALED from the TOP and are STICKY to boot!
echo23023: Either of them given you reason to suspect juliett20114 is a one?
didn't counter-query- didn't want to heap that kind of grief on any of ours- so I gave it a red check and forwarded it to Section 0.
echo23023: Well, that's a bit like spinning the cylinder, isn't it? That hammer's gonna drop eventually.
mike4436: Yeah, but not on me! Not with golf51979 as Section Head. he was top at Misriah, MISRIAH for Pete's sake!
echo23023: And for some reason you don't think it was a political move? Alpha20101 was a yoan gahn dur tzan sze at one time too, right?
mike4436: Be that as it may, golf51979 doesn't play that fiefdom crap like tango27(rest of numbers hidden behind photograph)did. Golf51979 was a military appointment . Sierral10852 was executed for the Herzog killing.
echo23023: Oh no you didn't! [/quote]
[quote]
[b] Proof of data query “spoof” voluntarily submitted after submission of official release of information request [/b]
2552:09:12:04:16:22:01
C:\>sftp-ks 1024 sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil
Connecting to ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil (1024 mbit tunnel)
Connected to ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil
220 ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil SFTP server ready
User (ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil:(none)): HALSEYSRB4695
Password:
< >
sftp> hash
Hash mark printing on (1024 bytes /hash mark).
sftp> get 48789-20114-AJ.txt
450 file unavailable, please retry
sftp> get 48789-20114-AJ.txt
200 PORT command okay.
150 Opening data connection for 48789-20114-AJ.txt(FAE;144:FEAC:67:CCF8187:AEAA:81:322).
###################
226 Transfer complete.
16494 bytes sent in 0.98 seconds (16 Kbytes/s)
hunter>watching *;*;*;*;*;*;* sftp.marmedrec.mil (ARP)
hunter> sftp init EA15EE95CE32:EE28:AA34:3:3283:EA83 *> sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil [1024 mbit tunnel]
hunter>RACE START sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil [36k CPU utl]
hunter>
hunter>
hunter>
hunter> RACE FINISHED [1024 mbit tunnel in 0.239238s]
rly sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil
blk PUT:GET:SEND
hunter> sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil> Connected to ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil
hunter> sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil> ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil SFTP server ready
hunter> sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil> User (ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil:(none)):
hunter> EA15EE95CE32:EE28:AA34:3:3283:EA83> HALSEYSRB4695
hunter> sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil> Password:
hunter> EA15EE95CE32:EE28:AA34:3:3283:EA83> dOc7OR$Ord3r5
< < Login page data excised for brevity > >
hunter> EA15EE95CE32:EE28:AA34:3:3283:EA83>hash
hunter> sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil> hash mark printing on (1024 bytes/has mark)
hunter> EA15EE95CE32:EE28:AA34:3:3283:EA83>get 48789-20114-AJ.txt
hunter> BLK 48789-20114-AJ.txt
RPUT c:\files\P_BS48789-2011-AJ.txt ON NEXT GET
hunter> EA15EE95CE32:EE28:AA34:3:3283:EA83>get 48789-20114-AJ.txt
hunter> PUT c:\files\P-BS48789-20114-AJ.txt
hunter> 200 PORT command okay.
Hunter> 150 Opening data connection for 48789-20114-AJ.txt(FAE;144:FEAC:67:CCF8187:AEAA:81:322).
hunter> ###########
hunter> 226 transfer complete
hunter> 16494 bytes sent in 0.98 seconds (16 Tbytes/s) [/quote]
Take a look at the chat log.
[quote] 2552:09:12:15:25:30:08 - 2552:09:12:15(rest is hidden behind photograph)
mike44236: No, this is not a thinly veiled attempt to query how many [I] ones [/I] are still active. I am merely trying to discern what is up with this interest spike on alpha juliett juliett 20114? [/quote]
First take a look at the date. September 12th, 2552. At this time the Gettysburg, is in slipspace heading towards to the rebel asteroid base. This is a short time after Dr Halsey talks to John about Johnson and how he survived the Flood.
When Mike is talking about ones I think he is taking about the Spartans Is. I think that alpha juliett juliett 20114 is Johnson. I’ll go into my reasoning a little later.
quote] echo23023: I don't know? His current proximity to one of the twos MB? Isn't all that junk automated? [/quote]
By “twos” I think echo mean the Spartan-IIs. Johnson is in close proximity with John.
[quote]
mike44236: Thanx and yes. The query was intercepted with the Paris/BS spoof. But what am I supposed to do now? [/quote]
“Paris/BS spoof” What could that be…
On page 244 of First Strike Dr. Halsey tells Jon that Johnson wasn’t infected by the flood because he had [b]B[/b]orens [b]S[/b]yndrome. The Boren’s Syndrome was caused by exposure to radiation when Johnson used a full crate of plasma grenades on [b] Paris [/b] IV.
See the connection? Boren’s Syndrome is abbreviated to BS. Paris is Paris IV. It was a spoof, a hoax. Of course, I doubt that Dr. Halsey knew that it was a hoax.
[quote] Ha ha ha :-P. The query is from the Gettysburg and it's got charlie hotel 4695's thumbs all over it. [/quote]
This is part of what makes me think that alpha juliett juliett 20114 is Johnson. Dr. Halsey is charlie hotel 4695. Charlie Hotel=CH=Catherine Halsey.
When she was on the Gettysburg she did a query to get the medical records of Johnson. This conversation takes place a few hours after she talked to John about Johnson’s medical conditions. To find out more we have to look at the the query that Dr. Halsey sent:
[quote] 2552:09:12:04:16:22:01
C:\>sftp-ks 1024 sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil
Connecting to ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil (1024 mbit tunnel)
Connected to ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil
220 ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil SFTP server ready
User (ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil:(none)): HALSEYSRB4695
Password: [/quote]
The first thing to look at is the Date/time stamp. This was sent about 15 minutes before Halsey talked to John about Johnson condition.
We can assume that Halsey is sending this because of the username, which is HALSEYSRB4695. This also confirms that Halsey is Charlie Hotel 4695. She is connecting to unsc.marmedrec.mil. I’m guessing that this is a medical facility because of the “med” in the name.
[Edited on 12.16.2007 4:32 PM PST]
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I just want to make a quick point, they aren't Spartan-II's, they're SPARTAN-II's, which could potentially even be an acronym. So nobody can ever say they're second to the Spartans. Ever. Shut up.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] superelephant omg. project orion was a spartan program. codename spartan. but wasnt the spartan I program. that was ancient greece. orion was just codenamed spartans. they werent spartan I project. the current spartans were part of the spartan II project. not orion 2 codename spartan project. and in the book, the Ai thats teacing the kids refers to the ancient greece spartans as spartan I program. [/quote] Holy blam dude. Main Entry: 1read Pronunciation: 'rEd Function: verb Inflected Form(s): read /'red/; read·ing /'rE-di[ng]/ Etymology: Middle English reden to advise, interpret, read, from Old English r[AE]dan; akin to Old High German rAtan to advise, Sanskrit rAdhnoti he achieves, prepares transitive verb 1 a (1) : to receive or take in the sense of (as letters or symbols) especially by sight or touch (2) : to study the movements of (as lips) with mental formulation of the communication expressed (3) : to utter aloud the printed or written words of
b : to learn from what one has seen or found in writing or printing c : to deliver aloud by or as if by reading; specifically : to utter interpretively d (1) : to become acquainted with or look over the contents of (as a book) (2) : to make a study of (3) : to read the works of e : to check (as copy or proof) for errors f (1) : to receive and understand (a voice message) by radio (2) : UNDERSTAND, COMPREHEND Try it sometime! The results may surprise you. -
[quote]3. I wonder where he got that Flood DNA. Was it really from a failed attempt to posses at Alpha Halo, or did they come from some other source?[/quote] He got it there. Halo was the first human interaction with the Flood. And I guess I always knew he was a Spartan-I. The book makes it painfully obvious if you read between the lines. Of course, most people don't. [quote]omg. project orion was a spartan program. codename spartan. but wasnt the spartan I program. that was ancient greece. orion was just codenamed spartans. they werent spartan I project. the current spartans were part of the spartan II project. not orion 2 codename spartan project. and in the book, the Ai thats teacing the kids refers to the ancient greece spartans as spartan I program.[/quote] You know, I'm going to resist straight-up flaming here. Let's begin a little lesson on understanding structures. The Spartans, from Sparta, were some of the greatest land warriors to ever live. Now, if you look at warfare even today, many things are named after great, mythical heroes and legends, as a badge of honor. Now we move ahead to the future. The Spartan-I project is formed, codenamed Project ORION. It was called Orion because he was a Greek legend. The products were called Spartans in the same sense as what I said above. It was to say, "the Spartans ruled the ancient world. These Spartans are the gret land warriors of today." But that project was deemed a failure. Thus, Spartan-II was formed. Why are the Spartan-II's told they are the first Spartans? Because due to security measures, all the Spartans are led to believe they are the only ones of their kind. The book explicitly states this. When the A.I. is educating the Spartan-II children on warfare, they show them a video of the first ever Spartans, the Greek ones, to show how superior training can overcome superior forces. They only even show them the video once. HOW IS THAT SO HARD TO FOLLOW?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dream053 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Shadow2202 The first Spartans were the ones from Sparta. thats in the past, halo's in the futures, how could Jhonson be a Spartan 1?[/quote] Dear lord man... Spartans were from Sparta, yes. The soldiers in the first phase of Project Orion were [b][u]code-named[/b][/u] Spartans, referencing the ancient Spartan race. They are called Spartan 1's because they are Spartan version 1.0. Version 1.0 of the Spartan project. This is shown not only in his quote of the novel (which you should have read), but also in the ilovebees radio drama. [b]Project Orion[/b]: The first wave of super-soldiers are codenamed Spartan I's (aka Spartan 1.0) --Spartan 1.0 having kids = Spartan 1.1 (16 exist/existed. This is shown in the I Love Bees radio drama. As it stands, I don't believe it is canon) [b]Spartan Project by Catherine Halsey[/b]: Second wave of super-soldiers codenamed Spartan II's (aka Spartan 2.0) [b]S-III Project by Colonel Ackerson / Spartan II Kurt "Ambrose"[/b]: Third (and final?) wave of super-soldiers codenamed Spartan III's (aka Spartan 3.0)[/quote] omg. project orion was a spartan program. codename spartan. but wasnt the spartan I program. that was ancient greece. orion was just codenamed spartans. they werent spartan I project. the current spartans were part of the spartan II project. not orion 2 codename spartan project. and in the book, the Ai thats teacing the kids refers to the ancient greece spartans as spartan I program.
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from what i can gather as a summary: 1. Johnson was able to survive Flood infestation because of his being an S1, but for some reason ONI sec 0 doesn't want this to be known, hence the 'Paris/BS' (aka Paris IV/Boren's Syndrome) spoof sent to Halsey as an explanation when she tries to pull his records onboard the Gettysburg. 2. he assassinated Jerald Ander on Harvest in Operation: KALEIDOSCOPE, as the Graphic Novel shows. 3. there were the Spartans of Sparta, the Spartan-Is of Project ORION, and the Spartan-IIs of, you guessed it, the S-II program. 4. the designators like Alpha Juliet Juliet, Charlie Hotel, and Juliet Alpha refer to names, like Avery Junior Johnson, Catherine Halsey, and James Ackerson. 5. the Graphic Novel refers to 'ilovebees' when it says that Sierra (possibly the character Standish) was executed for killing Colonel Herzog during ILB. now if only we could figure who and what are Golf and MISRIAH...
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Hallsley knew about the Spartan 1's, and why they weren't overly succesful, which is why/how she adapted her Spartan 2 program to require the genetic enhancments and other modifications. It was believed that there weren't any surviving Spartan 1's after Harvest. As we all know know, but haven't yet learned how, Johnson (who was a Spartan 1) somehow survived and was re-enlisted as a "standard" soldier. [Edited on 06.21.2007 12:10 PM PDT]
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my only problem to your theory is why Cathrin didn't know. She's always been in charge of the spartan program.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] sooley2 u dumbass, if that were true, then jonson would be more than fiftey[/quote] And how do we know he isn't?
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u dumbass, if that were true, then jonson would be more than fiftey
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Shadow2202 The first Spartans were the ones from Sparta. thats in the past, halo's in the futures, how could Jhonson be a Spartan 1?[/quote] Dear lord man... Spartans were from Sparta, yes. The soldiers in the first phase of Project Orion were [b][u]code-named[/b][/u] Spartans, referencing the ancient Spartan race. They are called Spartan 1's because they are Spartan version 1.0. Version 1.0 of the Spartan project. This is shown not only in his quote of the novel (which you should have read), but also in the ilovebees radio drama. [b]Project Orion[/b]: The first wave of super-soldiers are codenamed Spartan I's (aka Spartan 1.0) --Spartan 1.0 having kids = Spartan 1.1 (16 exist/existed. This is shown in the I Love Bees radio drama. As it stands, I don't believe it is canon) [b]Spartan Project by Catherine Halsey[/b]: Second wave of super-soldiers codenamed Spartan II's (aka Spartan 2.0) [b]S-III Project by Colonel Ackerson / Spartan II Kurt "Ambrose"[/b]: Third (and final?) wave of super-soldiers codenamed Spartan III's (aka Spartan 3.0) [Edited on 06.18.2007 7:54 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Shadow2202 The first Spartans were the ones from Sparta. thats in the past, halo's in the futures, how could Jhonson be a Spartan 1?[/quote] Read more, fool. [quote][b]In order to deal with increasing civil turmoil the Colonial Military Administration had secretly launched Project ORION back in 2491. The purpose of the program was to develop super soldiers codenamed “Spartans,” who would receive special training and physical augmentation. The Initial effort was successful, and in 2517 a new group of Spartans , the II-series, had been selected as the new generation of supersoldier.[/b][/quote] PAY ATTENTION.
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The first Spartans were the ones from Sparta. thats in the past, halo's in the futures, how could Jhonson be a Spartan 1?
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Church187- I know that characters are recycled, but these specific characters have the same voices, same looks, you know? I classify the major group of them as the same people.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xCaptainx24 Well opog, with the announcement of the novel, I have a feeling this theory and along with the one about Harvest were right. You now have bragging rights. [/quote] I was right about Johnson being on Harvest. I guess we will see how accurate other parts of the theories are in the Fall.
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I have the novel and theres no doubt about it. I all with you.
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im impressed! lots of info to back up what you're saying. im totally with you on this ;-]
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Well opog, with the announcement of the novel, I have a feeling this theory and along with the one about Harvest were right. You now have bragging rights.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ESE MASTER CHIEF Hey, i just got an idea. You know the Halo Wars trailer? What if "Spartan Group Omega" is the spartan ones? Halo wars is in harvest, it said that Halo Wars takes place when humans first meet the covenant. And they tested the sparow hawk too in harvest. What you think?[/quote] If the Halo Wars trailer takes place on harvest, then Spartan Group Omega would have to be Spartan Is. The twos were all on Reach at the time. [quote] i thought they called them spartan II's because the first spartans were those ancient greek fellows [/quote] [quote] In order to deal with increasing civil turmoil the Colonial Military Administration had secretly launched Project ORION back in 2491. The purpose of the program was to develop super soldiers codenamed “Spartans,” who would receive special training and physical augmentation. The Initial effort was successful, and in 2517 a new group of Spartans , the II-series, had been selected as the new generation of supersoldier. [/quote] [Edited on 04.18.2007 11:08 AM PDT]
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Fantastic.
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no. no they were not. read the first page or read the books
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i thought they called them spartan II's because the first spartans were those ancient greek fellows [Edited on 04.17.2007 9:03 PM PDT]
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Hey, i just got an idea. You know the Halo Wars trailer? What if "Spartan Group Omega" is the spartan ones? Halo wars is in harvest, it said that Halo Wars takes place when humans first meet the covenant. And they tested the sparow hawk too in harvest. What you think?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Oo Sol oO Great job on that. I know that the theory has been bouncing around, but no one has ever compiled all of it in one place. I hate to throw in a wrench, but my question is this: Dr. Halsey has always been given credit for originating the SPARTAN program, so why is she blocked? [/quote] I really don't know why she is blocked. She seemd to be the person behind the Spartan II program, but how much did she know about the Spartan-Is? [quote] My next question is: who is Jerald Mulkay(Mulkey)? On page 122 of the HGN, that is the name of the guy who's bio is in the bottom right corner. In the fine print, after it says SWAT and some other acronyms, it says "to Harvest for Harvesters and People's Occupation Government pedagogue." If this is mike22436, is he a SPARTAN-I, and have we ever met him before? [/quote] I think that he is the person who is being shot. In the information about him it says: [quote] Sedition/Weapons violations Class A Destruction of GP, Theft of GP [/quote] and [quote] Section Head, secessionist Union [/quote] He appears to be a leader of one of the rebel groups, and has been charged with Sedition and Weapons violations. [Edited on 04.16.2007 10:31 AM PDT]
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I'm pretty sure Dr. Halseys involvement was somehow based around Mjolnir... It is mentioned a lot of times that she really really really wants the Mjolnir program active... I think Ackerson is referring to this when he goes all mad:) But then again I'm not sure:S 0pog?? [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Oo Sol oO Great job on that. I know that the theory has been bouncing around, but no one has ever compiled all of it in one place. I hate to throw in a wrench, but my question is this: Dr. Halsey has always been given credit for originating the SPARTAN program, so why is she blocked? I completely agree with your conclusion that she is, but why? Ackerson loves to refer to the SPARTANS as, "Halsey's (insert degrading insults here)" which would imply that it is her project. She knows so much about the SPARTANS that I find it extremely hard to believe that she came in only after initial research. Instead, I think that she had some involvement with the SPARTAN-I's, but not on the same all-knowing level that she is now. Maybe, now that she wants to preserve all the SPARTANS she can, she is trying to track down the "older models" and see how their lives were changed. Anyone else got an idea? My next question is: who is Jerald Mulkay(Mulkey)? On page 122 of the HGN, that is the name of the guy who's bio is in the bottom right corner. In the fine print, after it says SWAT and some other acronyms, it says "to Harvest for Harvesters and People's Occupation Government pedagogue." If this is mike22436, is he a SPARTAN-I, and have we ever met him before? Thanks guys, Sol P.S. sorry if this has come up before, but I couldn't read all 28 pages.[/quote]
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you must have spent alot of time on this. But nonethe less its very possible.
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wait i thought that cortana didnt know about it
