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HALO GRAPHIC NOVEL SPOILERS BELOW.
I have been suspicious of Johnson sense I read the Fall of Reach and learned that he was on Gamma Station. I’ve always thought that he was more than just a normal marine. I even suggested that he did not have borens syndrome. Of course, I was called crazy and people to me that he was just a normal marine, there was nothing more too him, and he did have Borens syndrome.
Now I’m going to show you my new evidence that Johnson is NOT a normal marine, and that the Borens Syndrome was just a cover for something else.
Those of you who have the Halo Graphic Novel have seen page 122, by Robert Mclees. In the upper left conner of the page there is something that says
[quote] Project: ORION\RESTRICTED ACESS
NavSpecWarCom
\\GrONE\SnTmA\sn
Projetc: ORION\RESTRCITED ACESS
CRPL Johnson, Avery Junior
48789-2094-AJ
System: HARVEST
Operation: KALEIDOSCOPE
2502.(I can’t read the rest of the date)
[/quote]
What is Project Orion? We find out on page 16 of The Flood
[quote] In order to deal with increasing civil turmoil the Colonial Military Administration had secretly launched Project ORION back in 2491. The purpose of the program was to develop super soldiers codenamed “Spartans,” who would receive special training and physical augmentation.
The Initial effort was successful, and in 2517 a new group of Spartans , the II-series, had been selected as the new generation of supersoldier. [/quote]
I think that this shows that Avery Johnson is a Spartan I. We learn that he was with Projetc ORION, which was the Spartan program. The date is 2502, which is before the Spartan II were selected, which would mean that he is a Spartan I. There is even more evidence on page 122 that Johnson is a Spartan I.
There are two main boxes of text on the page. One is a log of a chat between two people. The other appears to be a log of a data query. They are both very interesting.
[quote] 2552:09:12:15:25:30:08 - 2552:09:12:15(rest is hidden behind photograph)
mike44236: No, this is not a thinly veiled attempt to query how many ones are still active. I am merely trying to discern what is up with this interest spike on alpha juliett juliett 20114?
echo23023: I don't know? His current proximity to one of the two MB? Isn't all that junk automated?
mike44236: Thanx and yes. The query was intercepted with the Paris/BS spoof. But what am I supposed to do now?
echo23023: Whaddayamean? Send counter-query right? Isn't there anyone local? WTF?RUnoobMB?
mike44236: Ha ha ha :-P. The query is from the Gettysburg and it's got charlie hotel 4695's thumbs all over it.
echo23023: First that ass juliett alpha 20101: now, that goddamn [i]charlie hotel 4695!?! It sounds like a big red button time to me, cupcake! I guess the whelps see all the grey hair and figure they can run willy-nilly through their elders secret dells.
mike4436: Umm..that's what it sounds like to me, too. But you see the pickle I'm in now, don't you? Uh...The Young Masters may be wise in the ways of magick but the Sorcerer Kings have not yet---
echo23023: WTF!?! Lolz!!!!one! Wise in the ways of MAGICK!?! Sorcerer Kings?2?!?!! Roflmao!!!!!!!eleven!!
mike4436: Ok fine! You can make allusions about wolves you SOB but when I try to get creative you've gotta be a total---
echo23023: Sorry sorry! Look I didn't mean it like that. Anyways... what level is your elf wizard? (^o^) hehehe!
mike4436: Sooooo... alpha20101 and hotel4696 have both made queries and even though both of them have deep deep access, the files they are looking for are SEALED from the TOP and are STICKY to boot!
echo23023: Either of them given you reason to suspect juliett20114 is a one?
didn't counter-query- didn't want to heap that kind of grief on any of ours- so I gave it a red check and forwarded it to Section 0.
echo23023: Well, that's a bit like spinning the cylinder, isn't it? That hammer's gonna drop eventually.
mike4436: Yeah, but not on me! Not with golf51979 as Section Head. he was top at Misriah, MISRIAH for Pete's sake!
echo23023: And for some reason you don't think it was a political move? Alpha20101 was a yoan gahn dur tzan sze at one time too, right?
mike4436: Be that as it may, golf51979 doesn't play that fiefdom crap like tango27(rest of numbers hidden behind photograph)did. Golf51979 was a military appointment . Sierral10852 was executed for the Herzog killing.
echo23023: Oh no you didn't! [/quote]
[quote]
[b] Proof of data query “spoof” voluntarily submitted after submission of official release of information request [/b]
2552:09:12:04:16:22:01
C:\>sftp-ks 1024 sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil
Connecting to ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil (1024 mbit tunnel)
Connected to ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil
220 ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil SFTP server ready
User (ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil:(none)): HALSEYSRB4695
Password:
< >
sftp> hash
Hash mark printing on (1024 bytes /hash mark).
sftp> get 48789-20114-AJ.txt
450 file unavailable, please retry
sftp> get 48789-20114-AJ.txt
200 PORT command okay.
150 Opening data connection for 48789-20114-AJ.txt(FAE;144:FEAC:67:CCF8187:AEAA:81:322).
###################
226 Transfer complete.
16494 bytes sent in 0.98 seconds (16 Kbytes/s)
hunter>watching *;*;*;*;*;*;* sftp.marmedrec.mil (ARP)
hunter> sftp init EA15EE95CE32:EE28:AA34:3:3283:EA83 *> sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil [1024 mbit tunnel]
hunter>RACE START sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil [36k CPU utl]
hunter>
hunter>
hunter>
hunter> RACE FINISHED [1024 mbit tunnel in 0.239238s]
rly sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil
blk PUT:GET:SEND
hunter> sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil> Connected to ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil
hunter> sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil> ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil SFTP server ready
hunter> sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil> User (ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil:(none)):
hunter> EA15EE95CE32:EE28:AA34:3:3283:EA83> HALSEYSRB4695
hunter> sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil> Password:
hunter> EA15EE95CE32:EE28:AA34:3:3283:EA83> dOc7OR$Ord3r5
< < Login page data excised for brevity > >
hunter> EA15EE95CE32:EE28:AA34:3:3283:EA83>hash
hunter> sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil> hash mark printing on (1024 bytes/has mark)
hunter> EA15EE95CE32:EE28:AA34:3:3283:EA83>get 48789-20114-AJ.txt
hunter> BLK 48789-20114-AJ.txt
RPUT c:\files\P_BS48789-2011-AJ.txt ON NEXT GET
hunter> EA15EE95CE32:EE28:AA34:3:3283:EA83>get 48789-20114-AJ.txt
hunter> PUT c:\files\P-BS48789-20114-AJ.txt
hunter> 200 PORT command okay.
Hunter> 150 Opening data connection for 48789-20114-AJ.txt(FAE;144:FEAC:67:CCF8187:AEAA:81:322).
hunter> ###########
hunter> 226 transfer complete
hunter> 16494 bytes sent in 0.98 seconds (16 Tbytes/s) [/quote]
Take a look at the chat log.
[quote] 2552:09:12:15:25:30:08 - 2552:09:12:15(rest is hidden behind photograph)
mike44236: No, this is not a thinly veiled attempt to query how many [I] ones [/I] are still active. I am merely trying to discern what is up with this interest spike on alpha juliett juliett 20114? [/quote]
First take a look at the date. September 12th, 2552. At this time the Gettysburg, is in slipspace heading towards to the rebel asteroid base. This is a short time after Dr Halsey talks to John about Johnson and how he survived the Flood.
When Mike is talking about ones I think he is taking about the Spartans Is. I think that alpha juliett juliett 20114 is Johnson. I’ll go into my reasoning a little later.
quote] echo23023: I don't know? His current proximity to one of the twos MB? Isn't all that junk automated? [/quote]
By “twos” I think echo mean the Spartan-IIs. Johnson is in close proximity with John.
[quote]
mike44236: Thanx and yes. The query was intercepted with the Paris/BS spoof. But what am I supposed to do now? [/quote]
“Paris/BS spoof” What could that be…
On page 244 of First Strike Dr. Halsey tells Jon that Johnson wasn’t infected by the flood because he had [b]B[/b]orens [b]S[/b]yndrome. The Boren’s Syndrome was caused by exposure to radiation when Johnson used a full crate of plasma grenades on [b] Paris [/b] IV.
See the connection? Boren’s Syndrome is abbreviated to BS. Paris is Paris IV. It was a spoof, a hoax. Of course, I doubt that Dr. Halsey knew that it was a hoax.
[quote] Ha ha ha :-P. The query is from the Gettysburg and it's got charlie hotel 4695's thumbs all over it. [/quote]
This is part of what makes me think that alpha juliett juliett 20114 is Johnson. Dr. Halsey is charlie hotel 4695. Charlie Hotel=CH=Catherine Halsey.
When she was on the Gettysburg she did a query to get the medical records of Johnson. This conversation takes place a few hours after she talked to John about Johnson’s medical conditions. To find out more we have to look at the the query that Dr. Halsey sent:
[quote] 2552:09:12:04:16:22:01
C:\>sftp-ks 1024 sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil
Connecting to ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil (1024 mbit tunnel)
Connected to ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil
220 ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil SFTP server ready
User (ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil:(none)): HALSEYSRB4695
Password: [/quote]
The first thing to look at is the Date/time stamp. This was sent about 15 minutes before Halsey talked to John about Johnson condition.
We can assume that Halsey is sending this because of the username, which is HALSEYSRB4695. This also confirms that Halsey is Charlie Hotel 4695. She is connecting to unsc.marmedrec.mil. I’m guessing that this is a medical facility because of the “med” in the name.
[Edited on 12.16.2007 4:32 PM PST]
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2502 09.13.14.50.23 (Symbol), That's all I could see in the top left thing. [Edited on 08.01.2007 9:19 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RoundeyeSamurai My thoughts are that Sgt Johnson Jr is the son of a Spartan I, thus explaining the inconstitencies in the timeline and the fact that he is a hell of a lot younger than 70+ years old. Also since he is a Jr, he shares the same name and initials as his father. Avery J. Johnson Jr, is the son of Avery J. Johnson Sr (Spartan I). His unexplained (or BS theory) ability to resist the flood infection may be due to a genetic difference he has cause by his fathers 'augmentation' from the Spartan I program. Just a thought![/quote] Spartan augmentations are not genetic. AJ Johnson Jr. wouldn't inherit anything from his father.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] opogjijijp why he is still able to be active in the marines at age 70, or maybe it has something to do with the "dead" flood DNA he has.... [/quote] He can be 70 because he's spent so much time in stasis flying from different missions in slipspace.
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My thoughts are that Sgt Johnson Jr is the son of a Spartan I, thus explaining the inconstitencies in the timeline and the fact that he is a hell of a lot younger than 70+ years old. Also since he is a Jr, he shares the same name and initials as his father. Avery J. Johnson Jr, is the son of Avery J. Johnson Sr (Spartan I). His unexplained (or BS theory) ability to resist the flood infection may be due to a genetic difference he has cause by his fathers 'augmentation' from the Spartan I program. Just a thought! [Edited on 08.01.2007 8:57 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Deidg Nactal I missed you opog[/quote] There there Nactal. We all missed him.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MLG Cheehwawa marmedrec Mars Medical -Blank- [/quote] Marine - Medical - Records [Edited on 08.01.2007 8:53 AM PDT]
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To the OP. Is Johnson a Spartan I? When I read the title of the topic I thought "here we go, more crackpot bull-s". But after reading your post you have totally convinced me! Well done!
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I missed you opog
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Your points are very well put and it all comes together abit. I agree with you.
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ok so bungie gave u guys a 4 player coop and u guys were only asking for a 2 player coop so shut the hell up who cares u still get to play wit ur frinds so stop being a douceh bag about and it stop complaing and stick to it
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[url=http://halosm.bungie.org/story/spartan.html]Here[/url] is some decent Spartan information
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I agree, because i never bought that theory about 'Boren’s Syndrome', but Is could not just refer to Spartan ones, it could just mean the first model of super soldier. But he is still the model before the Spartan IIs, before they where given the code name Spartans. But one query, really why did'nt Johnson die then?( to all the fans out there that say well we dont know if the Chief could die too, he never has, and the books never said that it could kill them, well ive got one thing to say......HAVE you plays the video games? they where before the books, so they are the ones you should be quoting more, and i dont know about the rest of you, but the flood infection forms have killed me in the game more than a few times) One possible answer to why Johnson didnt die is that he is one tough mother -blam!-er, and was able to fight his way out of the huddle before they killed him, its a simple answer, but a possible one. Oh and i found one piece of evidence in the BOOK (for all the fans i previously mentioned, just to do a point). In Halo: The Flood, on page 244-5 in the Library the chief fines the body of one [i]Staff Srg Marvin Mobuto[/i]. Mobuto was able to make it a great distance through the library when even the chief was having difficulty, could it be like Johnson there is something different about him ? possible? Oh and i know this is side tracking from the point,I love the games Halo, and Halo 2, i am a fanatic, but personally i dont like the books, They may be the [i]Official[/i] ones(with the exception of Halo:First strike, if you look, no where does it say official), but that doesnt mean that they are 100% right, they are still one persons personal views of halo universe(infact ive got a few pieces of evidence that they are wrong, and if you want me to list them for you, just message me or reply and ask, ill give you them). There is no need to take them too literally. Anyways, some of the questions will be answered in halo 3 hopefully, and the ones that are not, we all can just have our own ideas about.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Drum Fr34k [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Gund by Plazma I think i know what marmedrec means. Mars medical records or Marine medical records[/quote] Most likely marine medical records, because Johnson may not have been Martian. In Halo 2 he said he hadn't seen Earth in years, and I believe the new Contact Harvest book features a young him on Harvest. [url=http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=12661]Scroll to the bottom to see the cover art[/url][/quote] Yeah, I currently think that marmedrec is mostly likely Marine Medical Records. That seems to fit best with the rest of the information that we have. [Edited on 07.27.2007 10:57 AM PDT]
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Isnt Johnson Likely to be a Spartan 1 you know from the halo universe. lolz.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Gund by Plazma I think i know what marmedrec means. Mars medical records or Marine medical records[/quote] Most likely marine medical records, because Johnson may not have been Martian. In Halo 2 he said he hadn't seen Earth in years, and I believe the new Contact Harvest book features a young him on Harvest. [url=http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=12661]Scroll to the bottom to see the cover art[/url] [Edited on 07.27.2007 9:51 AM PDT]
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Theoretically, you could called the Spartans from Ancient Greece the [u]first Spartans,[/u] however, they are not SPARTAN 1s. the [u]first Spartans[/u] lived in Sparta. The SPARTAN 1s did not, they were called that name simply because the [u]first Spartans[/u] were trained to fight very early, and they had pride knowing that they were the best. [u]first Spartans[/u] ≠ SPARTAN 1s. [Edited on 07.27.2007 9:41 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Th3l1t3k1ll3r415 Isn't a spartan 1 the Greek Spartans the ones from sparta[/quote] omg it isnt!!! thats what half of this theory and thread is stating!!! READ THE BOOKS!!!!
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Isn't a spartan 1 the Greek Spartans the ones from sparta
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Duardo [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] opogjijijp [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] capmmegee Someone's been watching too much 300.[/quote] Probably all the people that think the SPARTAN Is were from Sparta.[/quote] No, they were just Spartans. Not SPARTANS 1s. In 300, did you ever hear the kind say, "SPARTAN 1s, prepare for glory!"[/quote] haha...Id like 2 see that!
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I think i know what marmedrec means. Mars medical records or Marine medical records
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] opogjijijp [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] capmmegee Someone's been watching too much 300.[/quote] Probably all the people that think the SPARTAN Is were from Sparta.[/quote] No, they were just Spartans. Not SPARTANS 1s. In 300, did you ever hear the kind say, "SPARTAN 1s, prepare for glory!"
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] capmmegee Someone's been watching too much 300.[/quote] Probably all the people that think the SPARTAN Is were from Sparta.
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lol. Too many someones have been watching 300. I just wish that they would read the first couple of posts before screaming about the soldiers from Sparta. This thread has nothing to do with Sparta, the 300, the battle of Thermapolye, or anything that takes place in OUR past. This thread is about SGT Johnson and his connection to the ORION project (aka, the SPARTAN I's). [....i wonder how many kids who havent read the first posts are going to flame me....?] *sighs*
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Someone's been watching too much 300.
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Very well thought out. I figured that he proby was when i read the book and saw the project orion.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BTE [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] IMAGE VAIN The original Spartan's from real world history are from Ancient Greece. They weren't super soldiers like MC but they were trained and bred to be soldiers from a very young age.[/quote]You are a moron, do your research and then come here to discuss. Anyone who still things that the Spartan I are from Greece, needs to get the hell out from here, and read the damn books. Oh yeah there is also the fact that ilovebees also mentions them.[/quote] He didn't say Spartan 1, he said spartans...as in from Sparta, a greek country...You're the moron, you should do your research. They were the ultimate warriors, trained as children in war, all men were soldiers. Bungie did not make up spartans, they used the name because they were the best soldiers of their time. [Edited on 06.27.2007 7:59 PM PDT]