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HALO GRAPHIC NOVEL SPOILERS BELOW.
I have been suspicious of Johnson sense I read the Fall of Reach and learned that he was on Gamma Station. I’ve always thought that he was more than just a normal marine. I even suggested that he did not have borens syndrome. Of course, I was called crazy and people to me that he was just a normal marine, there was nothing more too him, and he did have Borens syndrome.
Now I’m going to show you my new evidence that Johnson is NOT a normal marine, and that the Borens Syndrome was just a cover for something else.
Those of you who have the Halo Graphic Novel have seen page 122, by Robert Mclees. In the upper left conner of the page there is something that says
[quote] Project: ORION\RESTRICTED ACESS
NavSpecWarCom
\\GrONE\SnTmA\sn
Projetc: ORION\RESTRCITED ACESS
CRPL Johnson, Avery Junior
48789-2094-AJ
System: HARVEST
Operation: KALEIDOSCOPE
2502.(I can’t read the rest of the date)
[/quote]
What is Project Orion? We find out on page 16 of The Flood
[quote] In order to deal with increasing civil turmoil the Colonial Military Administration had secretly launched Project ORION back in 2491. The purpose of the program was to develop super soldiers codenamed “Spartans,” who would receive special training and physical augmentation.
The Initial effort was successful, and in 2517 a new group of Spartans , the II-series, had been selected as the new generation of supersoldier. [/quote]
I think that this shows that Avery Johnson is a Spartan I. We learn that he was with Projetc ORION, which was the Spartan program. The date is 2502, which is before the Spartan II were selected, which would mean that he is a Spartan I. There is even more evidence on page 122 that Johnson is a Spartan I.
There are two main boxes of text on the page. One is a log of a chat between two people. The other appears to be a log of a data query. They are both very interesting.
[quote] 2552:09:12:15:25:30:08 - 2552:09:12:15(rest is hidden behind photograph)
mike44236: No, this is not a thinly veiled attempt to query how many ones are still active. I am merely trying to discern what is up with this interest spike on alpha juliett juliett 20114?
echo23023: I don't know? His current proximity to one of the two MB? Isn't all that junk automated?
mike44236: Thanx and yes. The query was intercepted with the Paris/BS spoof. But what am I supposed to do now?
echo23023: Whaddayamean? Send counter-query right? Isn't there anyone local? WTF?RUnoobMB?
mike44236: Ha ha ha :-P. The query is from the Gettysburg and it's got charlie hotel 4695's thumbs all over it.
echo23023: First that ass juliett alpha 20101: now, that goddamn [i]charlie hotel 4695!?! It sounds like a big red button time to me, cupcake! I guess the whelps see all the grey hair and figure they can run willy-nilly through their elders secret dells.
mike4436: Umm..that's what it sounds like to me, too. But you see the pickle I'm in now, don't you? Uh...The Young Masters may be wise in the ways of magick but the Sorcerer Kings have not yet---
echo23023: WTF!?! Lolz!!!!one! Wise in the ways of MAGICK!?! Sorcerer Kings?2?!?!! Roflmao!!!!!!!eleven!!
mike4436: Ok fine! You can make allusions about wolves you SOB but when I try to get creative you've gotta be a total---
echo23023: Sorry sorry! Look I didn't mean it like that. Anyways... what level is your elf wizard? (^o^) hehehe!
mike4436: Sooooo... alpha20101 and hotel4696 have both made queries and even though both of them have deep deep access, the files they are looking for are SEALED from the TOP and are STICKY to boot!
echo23023: Either of them given you reason to suspect juliett20114 is a one?
didn't counter-query- didn't want to heap that kind of grief on any of ours- so I gave it a red check and forwarded it to Section 0.
echo23023: Well, that's a bit like spinning the cylinder, isn't it? That hammer's gonna drop eventually.
mike4436: Yeah, but not on me! Not with golf51979 as Section Head. he was top at Misriah, MISRIAH for Pete's sake!
echo23023: And for some reason you don't think it was a political move? Alpha20101 was a yoan gahn dur tzan sze at one time too, right?
mike4436: Be that as it may, golf51979 doesn't play that fiefdom crap like tango27(rest of numbers hidden behind photograph)did. Golf51979 was a military appointment . Sierral10852 was executed for the Herzog killing.
echo23023: Oh no you didn't! [/quote]
[quote]
[b] Proof of data query “spoof” voluntarily submitted after submission of official release of information request [/b]
2552:09:12:04:16:22:01
C:\>sftp-ks 1024 sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil
Connecting to ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil (1024 mbit tunnel)
Connected to ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil
220 ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil SFTP server ready
User (ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil:(none)): HALSEYSRB4695
Password:
< >
sftp> hash
Hash mark printing on (1024 bytes /hash mark).
sftp> get 48789-20114-AJ.txt
450 file unavailable, please retry
sftp> get 48789-20114-AJ.txt
200 PORT command okay.
150 Opening data connection for 48789-20114-AJ.txt(FAE;144:FEAC:67:CCF8187:AEAA:81:322).
###################
226 Transfer complete.
16494 bytes sent in 0.98 seconds (16 Kbytes/s)
hunter>watching *;*;*;*;*;*;* sftp.marmedrec.mil (ARP)
hunter> sftp init EA15EE95CE32:EE28:AA34:3:3283:EA83 *> sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil [1024 mbit tunnel]
hunter>RACE START sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil [36k CPU utl]
hunter>
hunter>
hunter>
hunter> RACE FINISHED [1024 mbit tunnel in 0.239238s]
rly sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil
blk PUT:GET:SEND
hunter> sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil> Connected to ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil
hunter> sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil> ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil SFTP server ready
hunter> sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil> User (ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil:(none)):
hunter> EA15EE95CE32:EE28:AA34:3:3283:EA83> HALSEYSRB4695
hunter> sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil> Password:
hunter> EA15EE95CE32:EE28:AA34:3:3283:EA83> dOc7OR$Ord3r5
< < Login page data excised for brevity > >
hunter> EA15EE95CE32:EE28:AA34:3:3283:EA83>hash
hunter> sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil> hash mark printing on (1024 bytes/has mark)
hunter> EA15EE95CE32:EE28:AA34:3:3283:EA83>get 48789-20114-AJ.txt
hunter> BLK 48789-20114-AJ.txt
RPUT c:\files\P_BS48789-2011-AJ.txt ON NEXT GET
hunter> EA15EE95CE32:EE28:AA34:3:3283:EA83>get 48789-20114-AJ.txt
hunter> PUT c:\files\P-BS48789-20114-AJ.txt
hunter> 200 PORT command okay.
Hunter> 150 Opening data connection for 48789-20114-AJ.txt(FAE;144:FEAC:67:CCF8187:AEAA:81:322).
hunter> ###########
hunter> 226 transfer complete
hunter> 16494 bytes sent in 0.98 seconds (16 Tbytes/s) [/quote]
Take a look at the chat log.
[quote] 2552:09:12:15:25:30:08 - 2552:09:12:15(rest is hidden behind photograph)
mike44236: No, this is not a thinly veiled attempt to query how many [I] ones [/I] are still active. I am merely trying to discern what is up with this interest spike on alpha juliett juliett 20114? [/quote]
First take a look at the date. September 12th, 2552. At this time the Gettysburg, is in slipspace heading towards to the rebel asteroid base. This is a short time after Dr Halsey talks to John about Johnson and how he survived the Flood.
When Mike is talking about ones I think he is taking about the Spartans Is. I think that alpha juliett juliett 20114 is Johnson. I’ll go into my reasoning a little later.
quote] echo23023: I don't know? His current proximity to one of the twos MB? Isn't all that junk automated? [/quote]
By “twos” I think echo mean the Spartan-IIs. Johnson is in close proximity with John.
[quote]
mike44236: Thanx and yes. The query was intercepted with the Paris/BS spoof. But what am I supposed to do now? [/quote]
“Paris/BS spoof” What could that be…
On page 244 of First Strike Dr. Halsey tells Jon that Johnson wasn’t infected by the flood because he had [b]B[/b]orens [b]S[/b]yndrome. The Boren’s Syndrome was caused by exposure to radiation when Johnson used a full crate of plasma grenades on [b] Paris [/b] IV.
See the connection? Boren’s Syndrome is abbreviated to BS. Paris is Paris IV. It was a spoof, a hoax. Of course, I doubt that Dr. Halsey knew that it was a hoax.
[quote] Ha ha ha :-P. The query is from the Gettysburg and it's got charlie hotel 4695's thumbs all over it. [/quote]
This is part of what makes me think that alpha juliett juliett 20114 is Johnson. Dr. Halsey is charlie hotel 4695. Charlie Hotel=CH=Catherine Halsey.
When she was on the Gettysburg she did a query to get the medical records of Johnson. This conversation takes place a few hours after she talked to John about Johnson’s medical conditions. To find out more we have to look at the the query that Dr. Halsey sent:
[quote] 2552:09:12:04:16:22:01
C:\>sftp-ks 1024 sftp.unsc.marmedrec.mil
Connecting to ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil (1024 mbit tunnel)
Connected to ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil
220 ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil SFTP server ready
User (ely.sol.terra.au.marmedrec.mil:(none)): HALSEYSRB4695
Password: [/quote]
The first thing to look at is the Date/time stamp. This was sent about 15 minutes before Halsey talked to John about Johnson condition.
We can assume that Halsey is sending this because of the username, which is HALSEYSRB4695. This also confirms that Halsey is Charlie Hotel 4695. She is connecting to unsc.marmedrec.mil. I’m guessing that this is a medical facility because of the “med” in the name.
[Edited on 12.16.2007 4:32 PM PST]
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papa89 = trumped by SS... but i hold my doubts... also call me out on this if im wrong but wasn't the good doctor also was the leader of the first spartan program? (i'll have to dig up some quotes on this...)
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KillgSpree56 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hammer 220 The answer will come with the release of [i]Halo: Contact Harvest[/i][/quote] Not necessarily. Halo Contact harvest starts further along in Srgnt Johnsons life than you'd think.[/quote] True, true. But we don't know that yet, do we? I think that the next novel will AT LEAST shed some light on this theory and on Johnson as a whole. We will see what story it tells when it is released. ...as I said before x_o
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That was only something Bungie did to congratulate players who finished the game on legendary. In other words, it isn't cannon. The books on the other hand are cannon, and they say Johnson was on a Pelican with a few other survivors before Halo blew. [Edited on 08.19.2007 11:35 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BTE Johnson wasnt even close to Halo when it blew up. He was on the Pelican.[/quote] says where? didn't the clip of him hugging the elite come right before halo went from one piece to one billion pieces?
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I concur with my buddy above me, you get a nice 11/10 score for your theory awesomeness. I always thought Johnson might have been a S-I, but I didn't get deep enough into the graphic novel and I believed the BS story until NOW. I love all the quotes and backup dude. Keep the busting going.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] papa89 Another sore point in this discussion is if the Pillar of Autumn blew up that close to Johnson, how did he survive and then find his way into space for the MC to find (as described in the first book)[/quote]Another sore point in this discussion is if Johnson died in every mission, how come he kept poping up? Clones?[/sarcastic] Johnson wasnt even close to Halo when it blew up. He was on the Pelican.
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I now am a believer and nice research. wow. who wold have guessed?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FuryOfTheKatana Good theory... 1 fatal flaw though... Johnson would be as white as Michael Jackson. lol [/quote] maybe he painted himself lol
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gj, has enough evidence to back it up, but we wont know until halo 3.
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Good theory... 1 fatal flaw though... Johnson would be as white as Michael Jackson. lol
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There is a theory on halopedia about Johnson being a Spartan I, it even has a theory about his age. Because a UNSC ship goes into slipspace the crew is put into cryogenic stasis (basically freezing them), they do not age. So someone who travels alot in slipspace would actually be physically younger than if they had not been in stasis. So Johnson could be a Spartan I, and only be about 50 years old. Its one of the many mysteries of the Halo universe
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Captain Penguin [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] recon37 thats an aweful lot of reading... writing I could not be bothered to read, but whatever it said, I'm sure it was amazing, and meant lots[/quote] As such, I won't be bothered to read your eventual obituary, whether it is long and "means lots" or not. Don't you thirst for knowledge? Haven't you any love for Halo to such as extent that you want to know the whole story? What kind of fan are you? A lazy one? It seems so. [/quote] He isnt one.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] recon37 thats an aweful lot of reading... writing I could not be bothered to read, but whatever it said, I'm sure it was amazing, and meant lots[/quote] As such, I won't be bothered to read your eventual obituary, whether it is long and "means lots" or not. Don't you thirst for knowledge? Haven't you any love for Halo to such as extent that you want to know the whole story? What kind of fan are you? A lazy one? It seems so.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hammer 220 The answer will come with the release of [i]Halo: Contact Harvest[/i][/quote] Not necessarily. Halo Contact harvest starts further along in Srgnt Johnsons life than you'd think.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hammer 220 The original Spartan are, of course, the Spartans of Sparta, Greece who fought the Persian Armies at the Battle of Thermopylae. The original Spartan in the UNSC, the Spartan -I's, are from something called Project ORION - The UNSC's first attempt at making super soldiers. This is elaborated on both in First Strike, and the ARG Halo 2 viral marketing campaign called ilovebees. [b]EDIT:[/b] Although it is NOT canon, the ilovebees campaign claimed that the Spartan -I's underwent augmentations.[/quote] 2491: In response to civil turmoil the Colonial Military Administration secretly launched Project ORION. The purpose of the program was to develop supersoldiers code-named "Spartans" who would receive special training and physical augmentation. (for reference, page 16 of The Flood)
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sounds awsome, maybe the next trilogy will revolve around sgt. johnson back in his younger years????
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although not the first theory about him being a spartan, probably the best reseached and thought out. awesome work
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I believe Johnson to be a SI. I can only wonder how that's going to come about in Statens book... HURRY UP AND FINISH THE DAMN THING ALREADY!!!!
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nice theory, I know deep down that Johnson is a spartan I.
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Another sore point in this discussion is if the Pillar of Autumn blew up that close to Johnson, how did he survive and then find his way into space for the MC to find (as described in the first book)
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] rugby_rox Interesting. But yeah...waaay too much time on you hands. That might explain why johnson was able to fight his way out, but still, he was DEVOURED by the flood. There had to be something there to stop them from taking over his body. Also, the SPARTAN-Is got some of the same augmentations as the SPARTAN-IIs, but scaled back quite a bit.[/quote] Wrong buddy. In the end. The legenday Version shows a Video of Johnson and A elite Struggling for a Weapon when suddenly the pillar of Autom begins to explode. From there Johnson and the Elite stop and look at eachother and johnson says "This is it baby." and Goes out to hug the elite. Wich he does. And then Halo Gets destroyed So there in fact goes to show you that Johnson did not get tooken over by the flood. Look the video up on youtube. Its easy to find.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] JediITL Wait, didn't Kurt die in FOR when John, Lin, and either Kurt or Alex went to blow up the first seen Covie Ship?[/quote]It was a staged malfunction by Ackerson in order to steal him away for the Spartan III project. It's in GoO.
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well frankie at comic-con 06 did say that ILB is in fact cannon. (but not the DOA-4 spartan, thou it would fit in with the hole time travel thing thats been hinted at in the books.)
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Artisan of Death Not to fan the flame but, I support opogjijijp's theory. There is way too much "coincidence" for there not to be any truth in his theory. If we look at his research (which was very thorough and organized), there is more evidence to support the theory than refute it. So, in order to shoot opogjijijp's theory down, one would have to come up with a convincing explanation for each of his arguments. [/quote] o_o I am not shooting ANYONE's theory down. Opog could still be right and I wrong once this is all said and done. My point is that we simply don't know, and to claim something as fact (which many users have done) you need good hard evidence. All we have is an artist's rendition. None the less, I have already stated my case. The answer will come with the release of [i]Halo: Contact Harvest[/i]
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Not to fan the flame but, I support opogjijijp's theory. There is way too much "coincidence" for there not to be any truth in his theory. If we look at his research (which was very thorough and organized), there is more evidence to support the theory than refute it. So, in order to shoot opogjijijp's theory down, one would have to come up with a convincing explanation for each of his arguments.
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I love how everyone lays their ideas down as if they are meant to be read by seven year olds. It funny. Anywho the thread starter is right. Everything adds up for Johnson being a part of the ORION project is a perfect fit. Congrats on formulating it for us dumb folk :).