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7/13/2011 10:43:33 AM
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Crysis Universe vs Haloverse
Nanosuit is way better than the Mjolnir armor. Better shields, Stealth ability built in, Armor power doesn't stop you from moving, more mobility, doesn't need to be enhanced to be a bad ass.
Characters actually talk and don't have a dull personality (exception being ODST's who I actually liked and cared about), they show their feelings, have better stories and are not freaking stereotypes.
You actually feel you're getting invaded, in Reach it was all a joke, you didn't feel hopeless, you just saw everything getting destroyed and were like oh well, In Crysis you actually see, how everything is going to hell.
Graphics, [b] Obviously [/b]
The Covenant is a joke they're all a religious association, I mean, they worship a race as their gods only because their technology, yet when they found their gods they want to destroy them. And again, the races were stereotypes.
Flood, is the only point I can't disprove, although the CEPH does infect, it doesn't do as much as the Flood.
Halo is a linear shooter, Crysis offers many ways to beat a level, be it by being stealthy, sniping, going guns blazing, it isn't free roam, but level design is better than Halo.
Differen't objectives, not only Herp Derp activate Anti air turret and go trough the same level 2 times herp.
Collectibles add new layers of replayability, key cars, souvenirs and audio logs.
You gotta admit, Halo get's repetitive, it's always a group of grunts, a elite and a couple of jackals. Hunter's aren't even hard. Don't get me started on the Flood. In Crysis is always different. And the Pingers are real monsters.
Upgrading you suit to fit your playstyle is actually pretty good, and the same for upgrading your weapons, again, it adds replayability. In Halo you can't do anything like that.
Technology in Halo sucks, it's 25xx and look at it, while in Crysis is just a few years ahead of us and look all they have acomplished.
I'll edit more, wait.
[Edited on 07.13.2011 3:42 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Helloyoudie Forerunners>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Crysis Crysis>UNSC Flood>Crysis (UNSC-Covenant era) Crysis=Covenant[/quote] fixed.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote]The Assault Rifle in Halo fires a 7.62 mm FMJ round, which last I checked is much larger, and thus more devestating, then almost any rifle we use today for conventional forces. The SCAR fires a 5.56mm round.[/quote] Going by the novel all the Chief's rounds would only piss Alcatraz off, given that the Ceph's lasers (which tear through sandbags large enough to stop .50's) didn't really do much. [quote]Truth be told, the fact humans are a threat to Alcatraz at all proves the Chief's superiority. Where the Nnosuit is one layer of protection, the Chief has another: his bones are immune to bullets just like his suit. Like his suit, small caliber rounds, have been said to simply bounce off his rib cage.[/quote] Again going by the novel, humans [i]aren't[/i] really a threat to Alcatraz. He can laugh off Gauss rounds. The Gauss rounds that are similar to the Gauss rounds on the Warthog, which would tear through a Spartan given the feats they show in the books... [quote]The Chief would simply be able to out maneuver/out think/out shoot Alcatraz simply due to superior biology.[/quote] Uh...okay? How does biology allow him to "outsmart" Alcatraz? And saying that somebody would outsmart somebody else is hardly an argument anyway. [quote]His mind is chemically altered to process information faster then any human, and that is multiplied by the armor. This allows him to calculate odds (he can do advanced calculus in his head....when he was 8) and come up with the best strategy possible to off Alcatraz.[/quote] Do you have proof of this? Was it ever actually stated, in any book or anything? Also, Alcatraz's suit gives him information automatically as well.[/quote] Yes it was, chief when augmented was given some drugs which allows him to process information really fast. And just after he was augmented in a space gym he managed to calculate the exact gravity in the gym area by dropping a pin, recording its time,calculating its mass, and finding out the speed, and then carried the roots and decimals to find out it was 1 G in the gym. Besides chief will have cortana in his suit whereas alcatraz only has the annoying female voice thing.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too Again going by the novel, humans [i]aren't[/i] really a threat to Alcatraz. He can laugh off Gauss rounds. The Gauss rounds that are similar to the Gauss rounds on the Warthog, which would tear through a Spartan given the feats they show in the books...[/quote] Really? A gauss cannon from 2500, which has to be mounted on a jeep, is the same as a 21st century gauss weapon attached to handheld guns? Sure, and a pistol round and a tank shell are equal, because they're both metal right?
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Forerunners>Crysis Crysis>UNSC Flood>Crysis Crysis=Covenant
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[quote]If you're going with universe vs universe, does that mean we can have the Precursor tech First Humanity used to hold off the Forerunners? If so, then there is literally nothing in Crysis which could begin to scratch the surface of the defensive capabilities of the Haloverse.[/quote] If it's 'verse vs 'verse I vote we go with CURRENT Halo versus CURRENT Crysis. As in, both sides are nowhere near their prime. Wouldn't really stop the Haloverse from demolishing the Crysisverse though. [quote]Actually the halo's can be altered on their firing radius if o remember correctly and chief could just fir an orbital mac gun at the crysis planet and annihilate it.[/quote] The OMC's are nowhere close to being planetbusters. [Edited on 07.13.2011 8:44 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote]Yeah OP has not read the books. Red team fell from just inside the atmosphere and survived just by free falling. Also mjolnir has armour and gel layers which can deflect all small arms fire meanin alcatraz's scar rounds would ping off as they aren't powerful enough.[/quote] 1. I'm not the OP. 2. I own every one of the books and have read them all. 3. Yup, they fell at approx. mach 3. 4. Judging by what we've seen Chief's weaponry would do even less to Alcatraz. Even by the books, Crysis' weapons would overpower MJOLNIR. [quote]Also halo universe has better weapons. Nova bomb can crack planets in half. halo rings can wipe out all sentient life in the galaxy.[/quote] Neither of which are immediately accessible by Chief. I'm just going by Alcatraz vs. John. ALL of the Halo universe vs ALL of the Crysis universe, you'd be right. But still, the UNSC wouldn't waste so much time and resources using a NOVA bomb and they would NEVER resort to using the Halos.[/quote] Actually the halo's can be altered on their firing radius if o remember correctly and chief could just fir an orbital mac gun at the crysis planet and annihilate it.
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If you're going with universe vs universe, does that mean we can have the Precursor tech First Humanity used to hold off the Forerunners? If so, then there is literally nothing in Crysis which could begin to scratch the surface of the defensive capabilities of the Haloverse.
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I agree, but something about Halo makes me like it more and make it more playable. The campaign for Crysis 2 was way better than Reach's, but the multiplayer for Reach is MUCH better than Crysis 2's. I'm a level like 26 in Crysis 2 btw.
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[quote]The Assault Rifle in Halo fires a 7.62 mm FMJ round, which last I checked is much larger, and thus more devestating, then almost any rifle we use today for conventional forces. The SCAR fires a 5.56mm round.[/quote] Going by the novel all the Chief's rounds would only piss Alcatraz off, given that the Ceph's lasers (which tear through sandbags large enough to stop .50's) didn't really do much. [quote]Truth be told, the fact humans are a threat to Alcatraz at all proves the Chief's superiority. Where the Nnosuit is one layer of protection, the Chief has another: his bones are immune to bullets just like his suit. Like his suit, small caliber rounds, have been said to simply bounce off his rib cage.[/quote] Again going by the novel, humans [i]aren't[/i] really a threat to Alcatraz. He can laugh off Gauss rounds. The Gauss rounds that are similar to the Gauss rounds on the Warthog, which would tear through a Spartan given the feats they show in the books... [quote]The Chief would simply be able to out maneuver/out think/out shoot Alcatraz simply due to superior biology.[/quote] Uh...okay? How does biology allow him to "outsmart" Alcatraz? And saying that somebody would outsmart somebody else is hardly an argument anyway. [quote]His mind is chemically altered to process information faster then any human, and that is multiplied by the armor. This allows him to calculate odds (he can do advanced calculus in his head....when he was 8) and come up with the best strategy possible to off Alcatraz.[/quote] Do you have proof of this? Was it ever actually stated, in any book or anything? Also, Alcatraz's suit gives him information automatically as well.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh The Assault Rifle in Halo fires a 7.62 mm FMJ round[/quote] [quote]more devestating then almost any rifle we use today for conventional forces[/quote] wut.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] teekuppi A single Precursor warship could destroy everything inside Crysis universe, just because Crysis has nothing that could even scratch the Precursor warship.[/quote]Precursor offense tech is still shadowed in mystery. We could assume that their weapon tech is on par with the Xeelee, but that would be wank. Defense/Structure tech is indestructible to anything save perhaps a black hole. I shudder to think what their shields are like. [quote]Or, optionally just destroy evrything with Forerunner's naval forces.[/quote] All you would need is one PB to wreck Crysis|Earth, and when the aliens try and attack the Forerunners, a handful of Cruisers and a Fortress will be waiting.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote]Yeah OP has not read the books. Red team fell from just inside the atmosphere and survived just by free falling. Also mjolnir has armour and gel layers which can deflect all small arms fire meanin alcatraz's scar rounds would ping off as they aren't powerful enough.[/quote] 1. I'm not the OP. 2. I own every one of the books and have read them all. 3. Yup, they fell at approx. mach 3. 4. Judging by what we've seen Chief's weaponry would do even less to Alcatraz. Even by the books, Crysis' weapons would overpower MJOLNIR. [quote]Also halo universe has better weapons. Nova bomb can crack planets in half. halo rings can wipe out all sentient life in the galaxy.[/quote] Neither of which are immediately accessible by Chief. I'm just going by Alcatraz vs. John. ALL of the Halo universe vs ALL of the Crysis universe, you'd be right. But still, the UNSC wouldn't waste so much time and resources using a NOVA bomb and they would NEVER resort to using the Halos.[/quote] The Assault Rifle in Halo fires a 7.62 mm FMJ round, which last I checked is much larger, and thus more devestating, then almost any rifle we use today for conventional forces. The SCAR fires a 5.56mm round. Truth be told, the fact humans are a threat to Alcatraz at all proves the Chief's superiority. Where the Nnosuit is one layer of protection, the Chief has another: his bones are immune to bullets just like his suit. Like his suit, small caliber rounds, have been said to simply bounce off his rib cage. The Chief would simply be able to out maneuver/out think/out shoot Alcatraz simply due to superior biology. His mind is chemically altered to process information faster then any human, and that is multiplied by the armor. This allows him to calculate odds (he can do advanced calculus in his head....when he was 8) and come up with the best strategy possible to off Alcatraz. [Edited on 07.13.2011 8:34 AM PDT]
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A single Precursor warship could destroy everything inside Crysis universe, just because Crysis has nothing that could even scratch the Precursor warship. Or, optionally just destroy everything with Forerunner's naval forces. Even their ground forces could do the same job. [Edited on 07.13.2011 8:33 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TwistedDippy666 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SC Matt Klassen [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote]Anyway, Halo-universe can't loose. They activate a Halo ring and -blam!- up the whole enemy universe at once[/quote] And in the process kill themselves. That's like dropping a nuke on your city when it gets invaded and killing EVERYBODY even when you don't have to. [/quote] Halo rings can be reconfigured to affect a single solar system/a single PLANET instead of the 25k LY normal range. [/quote] And in halo we can just nova-bomb the solar system in which crysis is in.[/quote] Only have one NOVA, you sure you want to waste it on that? When you could just pull up in a couple of Covenant Supercarriers and a UNSC battlegroup, then just bomb from orbit...
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[quote]Yeah OP has not read the books. Red team fell from just inside the atmosphere and survived just by free falling. Also mjolnir has armour and gel layers which can deflect all small arms fire meanin alcatraz's scar rounds would ping off as they aren't powerful enough.[/quote] 1. I'm not the OP. 2. I own every one of the books and have read them all. 3. Yup, they fell at approx. mach 3. 4. Judging by what we've seen Chief's weaponry would do even less to Alcatraz. Even by the books, Crysis' weapons would overpower MJOLNIR. [quote]Also halo universe has better weapons. Nova bomb can crack planets in half. halo rings can wipe out all sentient life in the galaxy.[/quote] Neither of which are immediately accessible by Chief. I'm just going by Alcatraz vs. John. ALL of the Halo universe vs ALL of the Crysis universe, you'd be right. But still, the UNSC wouldn't waste so much time and resources using a NOVA bomb and they would NEVER resort to using the Halos.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote]nanosuit require energy to go armor mode/stealth mode, yes? Then simply get plasma pistol/grenade launcher and no more problem![/quote] Armor mode can take a hell of a lot more than a Spartan's shields and if the Nanosuit was invisible they couldn't see Alcatraz anyway. There's no telling if plasma would even have the same effect, by the way.[/quote] You're assuming gameplay=canon. The fact of the matter is, bullets of almost any caliber up to and including around .40 simply bounce right off the suit's Titanium A plating. That includes shields, which only falter a sliver when hit with projectiles. This suit allowed the Chief to get back up after back handing a jet-launched missile coming directly at him away into a wall.
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I like both. Halo has a truly incredible story, one to which I can relate. Crysis has beautiful graphics and really well gameplay, kinda a mix of Call of Duty and Halo but the gameplay is actually enjoyable.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SC Matt Klassen [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote]Anyway, Halo-universe can't loose. They activate a Halo ring and -blam!- up the whole enemy universe at once[/quote] And in the process kill themselves. That's like dropping a nuke on your city when it gets invaded and killing EVERYBODY even when you don't have to. [/quote] Halo rings can be reconfigured to affect a single solar system/a single PLANET instead of the 25k LY normal range. [/quote] And in halo we can just nova-bomb the solar system in which crysis is in.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote]Anyway, Halo-universe can't loose. They activate a Halo ring and -blam!- up the whole enemy universe at once[/quote] And in the process kill themselves. That's like dropping a nuke on your city when it gets invaded and killing EVERYBODY even when you don't have to. [/quote] Halo rings can be reconfigured to affect a single solar system/a single PLANET instead of the 250k LY normal range. [Edited on 07.13.2011 8:25 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote]I had a thread like this once but it was in the Halo Reach Forums I disagree that the Nanosuit 2 is stronger and better then the MJOLNIR VI Armor. Master Chief fell from Orbit and survived. The Nanosuit 2 can't survive that. MJOLNIR Armor is like 2000 pounds. The MJOLNIR Armor is able to lift more, and take more damage.[/quote] Oy, that feat's controversial. He fell from IN-ATMOSPHERE, and was using a piece of the Dreadnaught to shield his fall. And even then he was seriously injured and his suit damaged. It's not as impressive as it seems. MJOLNIR can be penetrated by 7.62mm AP rounds, and the standard SCAR fires a 4mm flechette. The fact is, most of Crysis' rifles could tear through shields like a knife through butter. Overall, Chief's shields are his only real advantage...and those won't even be a problem for Alcatraz. [quote]Alcatraz is not stronger then the chief. When the power for the Nanosuit 2 is shut off Alcatraz becomes very weak because he was wounded at the beginning of Crysis 2 where that alien ship shot at his squad.[/quote] But in this fight both suits are at maximum (canon) power. Alcatraz's suit will always be working. [quote]Master Chief took out a few ODST's with his bare hands in his teens.[/quote] So? Doesn't mean Alcatraz's Nanosuit isn't better than MJOLNIR. [quote]Anyway, Halo-universe can't loose. They activate a Halo ring and -blam!- up the whole enemy universe at once[/quote] And in the process kill themselves. That's like dropping a nuke on your city when it gets invaded and killing EVERYBODY even when you don't have to. [quote]Spartan III Headhunters had upgraded helmets that could see cloaked enemies.[/quote] No telling if Crysis' cloaking works the same way as Active Camo.[/quote] Yeah OP has not read the books. Red team fell from just inside the atmosphere and survived just by free falling. Also mjolnir has armour and gel layers which can deflect all small arms fire meanin alcatraz's scar rounds would ping off as they aren't powerful enough. Also halo universe has better weapons. Nova bomb can crack planets in half. halo rings can wipe out all sentient life in the galaxy.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TwistedDippy666 I very much doubt you have read any of the books for halo at all and are using gameplay as pure fact of the canon. Remember this, it takes more than 1 hit to take down shields as in the books he got hit by a flood form really hard and his shield only flickered a little. They had to reduce everything about mjolnir so it would be fair gameplay.[/quote] This also. Why do people always bring gameplay features in as canonical facts?
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you know, after reading your posts, op, it seems you have little knowledge of both universes, therefore you miss the more important points, and little knowledge of the subject you want to discuss, because you seem to be missing the your own intended discussion. Graphics, gameplay, and how some of their tech works isn't anything related to the universe of a game. Also, haloverse wins. Figure it out yourself.
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Halo (1-ODST): Good story (besides Reach), innovative (in its prime) gameplay, great easter eggs, fun to play. Crysis 2: Great graphics, interesting story, though not told out very well and good ideas. I'd say Halo wins on that one.
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[quote]I had a thread like this once but it was in the Halo Reach Forums I disagree that the Nanosuit 2 is stronger and better then the MJOLNIR VI Armor. Master Chief fell from Orbit and survived. The Nanosuit 2 can't survive that. MJOLNIR Armor is like 2000 pounds. The MJOLNIR Armor is able to lift more, and take more damage.[/quote] Oy, that feat's controversial. He fell from IN-ATMOSPHERE, and was using a piece of the Dreadnaught to shield his fall. And even then he was seriously injured and his suit damaged. It's not as impressive as it seems. MJOLNIR can be penetrated by 7.62mm AP rounds, and the standard SCAR fires a 4mm flechette. The fact is, most of Crysis' rifles could tear through shields like a knife through butter. Overall, Chief's shields are his only real advantage...and those won't even be a problem for Alcatraz. [quote]Alcatraz is not stronger then the chief. When the power for the Nanosuit 2 is shut off Alcatraz becomes very weak because he was wounded at the beginning of Crysis 2 where that alien ship shot at his squad.[/quote] But in this fight both suits are at maximum (canon) power. Alcatraz's suit will always be working. [quote]Master Chief took out a few ODST's with his bare hands in his teens.[/quote] So? Doesn't mean Alcatraz's Nanosuit isn't better than MJOLNIR. [quote]Anyway, Halo-universe can't loose. They activate a Halo ring and -blam!- up the whole enemy universe at once[/quote] And in the process kill themselves. That's like dropping a nuke on your city when it gets invaded and killing EVERYBODY even when you don't have to. [quote]Spartan III Headhunters had upgraded helmets that could see cloaked enemies.[/quote] No telling if Crysis' cloaking works the same way as Active Camo. [Edited on 07.13.2011 8:18 AM PDT]
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First of all,OP, why are you coming on a HALO DEDICATED site and saying another franchise is better,it makes no sense. Secondly, I've played both games and find Halo much more enjoyble to play its,a matter of opinion, get over it.
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They have ships in Halo-universe. They would just blow the Crysis universe from earths surface. Anyway, Halo-universe can't loose. They activate a Halo ring and -blam!- up the whole enemy universe at once
