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6/18/2011 12:20:28 AM
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How can you trust Halo Reach with 343 more than Bungie?
Or the Halo industries.... Don't just say they listen to their fans, if you're going to say that then show proof.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] o DeathCubeK o So can't one person represent the company?[/quote] No, just like one person can't represent a group of people. I can't post on here that all MLG players want 6 shot magnum starts and ultra huge 1000% damage beatdowns because I played MLG a few times and I have an account on their website. We don't let one idiot ruin a crowd and we don't let a company take the credit for one man and his team's work. [/quote] Don't be stupid, because I am not! There is a difference between having an account on a website( which would make you more like a customer) and being apart of the company. Again I ask, if jeremiah and his team did something offensive in reach and someone sued, who would get sued jeremiah or Bungie? You guys must be freaking idiots
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Donovan McNabb Because Bungie didn't fix anything that was wrong with their game. [/quote] When something is broken, break something bigger to cause a distraction.
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cause they dont have a bad community so they listen to it!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cj1b4u [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] o DeathCubeK o [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cj1b4u [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] o DeathCubeK o [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cj1b4u 3. Very limited(if any) major work has been shOwn by 343i. I don't understand why everyone is jumping on board with 343i without waiting for the game? Unless they are going to have Certain Afinity make the rest of the Halos. [b][i][u]Jeremiah[/b][/u][/i] has done the best job [b][u][i]HE[/b][/u][i/] can do with listening to all the complainers without causing the content players to suffer too much. Everyone wants something different, it is not possible to please everyone and still have a semi-balanced game.[/quote] Fix'd for accuracy. Bungie hasn't done anything really, Jeremiah and his team of testers are the only ones who have really done anything for this game thus far and none of which are all that drastic...made playlists and removed some AAs here and there to playlists. All of which is stuff that should have been done since the beginning. Drop shield/AL out of objective (took them long enough on this one. This one was a no brainer.) Multi-team four teams of three, Arena with no AAs but Jetpack and Sprint, etc. [/quote] Doesn't Jeremiah = Bungie?[/quote] Jeremiah is part of Bungie, yeah, but Bungie as a whole hasn't done anything. I'm giving credit where credit is due, and the credit goes to Jeremiah, not Bungie. [/quote] So can't one person represent the company?[/quote] No, just like one person can't represent a group of people. I can't post on here that all MLG players want 6 shot magnum starts and ultra huge 1000% damage beatdowns because I played MLG a few times and I have an account on their website. We don't let one idiot ruin a crowd and we don't let a company take the credit for one man and his team's work. [Edited on 06.18.2011 9:02 PM PDT]
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343i aren't new, they have been around for quite a while now... 343 can be judged as developers partially from the halo addons they made, but do not apply this logic to campaign and storyline. It is 343, they cannot be called bad or good until they have proven themselves as game developers.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Achronos Again, while 343i is made up of lots of awesome devs, please stop saying that it is full of prior Bungie employees. It isn't (you can count them on one hand). Reach (and Halo in general) is in good hands. But it isn't in "formerly of Bungie" hands. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MythicSniper ...Because 343 has a good chunk of Bungie folks in it. Research. It is, contrary to popular belief, good for your soul. And your online dignity.[/quote][/quote] [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=61344180&postRepeater1-p=1]Why didn't I get a reply like this when I brought up the same subject?[/url] Seriously. So everyone is bowing down to a company with no prior experience, no exhibit of any proficiency in making a game, and the biggest thing they have going for them is five or less member of Bungie work there. What now people!? What now? (Once again, not hating 343i just entirely baffled by people around here)
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Frankie'o'Connor is on the 343 team, case closed.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Stupid Bangie [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cj1b4u [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Stupid Bangie [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cj1b4u [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Stupid Bangie I never said all new developers make good games, but that's not what this thread was about. All I said was they are currently far more qualified to handle Halo now since they HAVEN'T done a piss poor job SO FAR. Bungie had a botched lobotomy mid-way through Halo 3, their previous games are irrelevant. [/quote] Having no experience doesn't make you more qualified. Most of the things that they sold were not even made by them. They haven't done a PISS POOR job so far because they have done anything yet. and you saying there previous games are irrelevant is just because you don't have any adequate defense. You sound like a troll sir. Your reasoning can justify you handing money to a complete stranger to hold just because they have never stole from you before. = genius/future voter:/sarcasm[/quote] I'd rather let a smiling stranger hold my money than someone I know is a thief. You made my point for me.[/quote] Obviously you wouldn't. Your still playing bungie's game and your still on their forum. #brilliant [/quote] Relevance? The game I play is in no way an indication of trust. I guarantee I'll stop playing Reach when Halo 4 comes out.[/quote] At this stage in the debate you should've respectfully stood down and remained quite, instead of looking stupid. Anywhoo:D I would think it is safe to assume that when a new instalment comes out for a game, players will switch. But riddle me this, why would I openly agree with you about players leaving reach when H4 comes out? Because I never said it was going to be bad, I just don't think 343i should receive praise YET. They have not proven themselves as a developer YET. Bungie, in my opinion, has. I feel good about there next game( doesn't mean it will be good, but I have high hopes)
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Masterrulax Still i wasn't talking to you. And nope.. you are all wrong bro. You think you know everything but you don't =/ And no dude you shouldn't critize something you don't know about ;/ I mean do you know how to be president? Or do you know how to make a game? do you know coding lenguage? It's funny how people sometimes think they outsmarted you. Sadly you didn't i wasn't arguing with you.[/quote] I honestly can't tell if you're retarded or just trolling. Well done.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cj1b4u [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Stupid Bangie [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cj1b4u [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Stupid Bangie I never said all new developers make good games, but that's not what this thread was about. All I said was they are currently far more qualified to handle Halo now since they HAVEN'T done a piss poor job SO FAR. Bungie had a botched lobotomy mid-way through Halo 3, their previous games are irrelevant. [/quote] Having no experience doesn't make you more qualified. Most of the things that they sold were not even made by them. They haven't done a PISS POOR job so far because they have done anything yet. and you saying there previous games are irrelevant is just because you don't have any adequate defense. You sound like a troll sir. Your reasoning can justify you handing money to a complete stranger to hold just because they have never stole from you before. = genius/future voter:/sarcasm[/quote] I'd rather let a smiling stranger hold my money than someone I know is a thief. You made my point for me.[/quote] Obviously you wouldn't. Your still playing bungie's game and your still on their forum. #brilliant [/quote] Relevance? The game I play is in no way an indication of trust. I guarantee I'll stop playing Reach when Halo 4 comes out.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Stupid Bangie [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cj1b4u [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Stupid Bangie I never said all new developers make good games, but that's not what this thread was about. All I said was they are currently far more qualified to handle Halo now since they HAVEN'T done a piss poor job SO FAR. Bungie had a botched lobotomy mid-way through Halo 3, their previous games are irrelevant. [/quote] Having no experience doesn't make you more qualified. Most of the things that they sold were not even made by them. They haven't done a PISS POOR job so far because they have done anything yet. and you saying there previous games are irrelevant is just because you don't have any adequate defense. You sound like a troll sir. Your reasoning can justify you handing money to a complete stranger to hold just because they have never stole from you before. = genius/future voter:/sarcasm[/quote] I'd rather let a smiling stranger hold my money than someone I know is a thief. You made my point for me.[/quote] Obviously you wouldn't. Your still playing bungie's game and your still on their forum. #brilliant
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cj1b4u [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Stupid Bangie I never said all new developers make good games, but that's not what this thread was about. All I said was they are currently far more qualified to handle Halo now since they HAVEN'T done a piss poor job SO FAR. Bungie had a botched lobotomy mid-way through Halo 3, their previous games are irrelevant. [/quote] Having no experience doesn't make you more qualified. Most of the things that they sold were not even made by them. They haven't done a PISS POOR job so far because they have done anything yet. and you saying there previous games are irrelevant is just because you don't have any adequate defense. You sound like a troll sir. Your reasoning can justify you handing money to a complete stranger to hold just because they have never stole from you before. = genius/future voter:/sarcasm[/quote] I'd rather let a smiling stranger hold my money than someone I know is a thief. You made my point for me.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Stupid Bangie I never said all new developers make good games, but that's not what this thread was about. All I said was they are currently far more qualified to handle Halo now since they HAVEN'T done a piss poor job SO FAR. Bungie had a botched lobotomy mid-way through Halo 3, their previous games are irrelevant. [/quote] Having no experience doesn't make you more qualified. Most of the things that they sold were not even made by them. They haven't done a PISS POOR job so far because they have done anything yet. and you saying there previous games are irrelevant is just because you don't have any adequate defense. You sound like a troll sir. Your reasoning can justify you handing money to a complete stranger to hold just because they have never stole from you before. = genius/future voter:/sarcasm
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cj1b4u [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Stupid Bangie [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cj1b4u [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Stupid Bangie Because 343 hasn't proven to be incompetent. They're a new developer that has to try and make a name for themselves, so at least they'll provide effort, unlike those lobotomized morons known as Bungie.[/quote] You can't honestly be serious?[/quote] I absolutely am.[/quote] Because all new developers make awesome games? Because You have not enjoyed any of the games Bungie has made, including reach, which you still come on forums to talk about and still play?[/quote] I never said all new developers make good games, but that's not what this thread was about. All I said was they are currently far more qualified to handle Halo now since they HAVEN'T done a piss poor job SO FAR. Bungie had a botched lobotomy mid-way through Halo 3, their previous games are irrelevant.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Stupid Bangie [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cj1b4u [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Stupid Bangie Because 343 hasn't proven to be incompetent. They're a new developer that has to try and make a name for themselves, so at least they'll provide effort, unlike those lobotomized morons known as Bungie.[/quote] You can't honestly be serious?[/quote] I absolutely am.[/quote] Because all new developers make awesome games? Because You have not enjoyed any of the games Bungie has made, including reach, which you still come on forums to talk about and still play?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cj1b4u [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Stupid Bangie Because 343 hasn't proven to be incompetent. They're a new developer that has to try and make a name for themselves, so at least they'll provide effort, unlike those lobotomized morons known as Bungie.[/quote] You can't honestly be serious?[/quote] I absolutely am.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Stupid Bangie Because 343 hasn't proven to be incompetent. They're a new developer that has to try and make a name for themselves, so at least they'll provide effort, unlike those lobotomized morons known as Bungie.[/quote] You can't honestly be serious?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NavG123 Because Bungie has allowed so many BS glitches to remain in the game for so long that it's almost like they have blatantly refused to update and fix the game.[/quote] Explain, what glitches? The anti-vehicle launching glitch is the only thing I could think of that really effects gameplay.
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I just hope they can come up with all these mind-bending easter eggs like bungie has :P (sry if this was already posted)
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Because 343 hasn't proven to be incompetent. They're a new developer that has to try and make a name for themselves, so at least they'll provide effort, unlike those lobotomized morons known as Bungie.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] o DeathCubeK o [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cj1b4u [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] o DeathCubeK o [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cj1b4u 3. Very limited(if any) major work has been shOwn by 343i. I don't understand why everyone is jumping on board with 343i without waiting for the game? Unless they are going to have Certain Afinity make the rest of the Halos. [b][i][u]Jeremiah[/b][/u][/i] has done the best job [b][u][i]HE[/b][/u][i/] can do with listening to all the complainers without causing the content players to suffer too much. Everyone wants something different, it is not possible to please everyone and still have a semi-balanced game.[/quote] Fix'd for accuracy. Bungie hasn't done anything really, Jeremiah and his team of testers are the only ones who have really done anything for this game thus far and none of which are all that drastic...made playlists and removed some AAs here and there to playlists. All of which is stuff that should have been done since the beginning. Drop shield/AL out of objective (took them long enough on this one. This one was a no brainer.) Multi-team four teams of three, Arena with no AAs but Jetpack and Sprint, etc. [/quote] Doesn't Jeremiah = Bungie?[/quote] Jeremiah is part of Bungie, yeah, but Bungie as a whole hasn't done anything. I'm giving credit where credit is due, and the credit goes to Jeremiah, not Bungie. [/quote] So can't one person represent the company? He still works for Bungie. I won't take credit away from him and this isn't even my original point but, why take credit from Bungie? Why the animosity? If Jeremiah screws up while working on the game and someone sues, who is going to get sued, him or Bungie? [Edited on 06.18.2011 1:09 PM PDT]
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Because Bungie has allowed so many BS glitches to remain in the game for so long that it's almost like they have blatantly refused to update and fix the game.
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I am really gonna miss Bungie Halo. All the true fans know this. Just think of what they brought us man. Now all of a sudden a bunch of 12 year olds trash Reach and "I cAntZ WAit for 343 to take Overrr!" I am not sold on Halo 4 and I won't be until I pick up the game and play it. This is Halo and Bungie brought us Halo.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] hisfamily [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cj1b4u 2. Even though a developer should, to a small degree, listen to their players, ultimately the game is a product of their vision and not yours. [/quote] LOL this made me laugh. [/quote] Why? Bungie makes games they want to play, and they've been saying it for years.
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Funfact: Halowaypoints site SUCKS. Its the glitchiest piece of -blam!- I've ever used. 343 didn't make the defiant map pack. Certain Affinity did. 343 didn't make the mutliplayer maps in halo;CEA, Certain Affinity did. 343 didn't make the Campaign in Halo:CEA, Saber Interactive did.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cj1b4u 2. Even though a developer should, to a small degree, listen to their players, ultimately the game is a product of their vision and not yours. [/quote] LOL this made me laugh.
