(Star Wars vs Star Trek vs Battle Star Galatia vs Halo vs Mass Effect)
who/what side would win...
okay everything in each universe (time and space good or bad) would team up under one flag and fight the other 4 universes...
[Edited on 06.04.2011 7:55 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Swiftkillswitch3 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazyCrackerJack [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Swiftkillswitch3 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazyCrackerJack Precrusor ships don't need to be destroyed, the said Thought Bomb could kill all life aboard, or the Starkiller could suck them into a black hole. Rest my case, mofos.[/quote] If you could kill a being at Tier 0, which is far too advanced to anything even as advanced as Star Wars could give it. Doubted, CCJ. Tier 0>>> All.[/quote] So, your back up is "Tier 0" I'm pretty sure your argument sits at the same number out of a scale of 10. Give me one reason none of the above listed weapons could work.[/quote] Mhm, not sentient isn't enough? They're not in any physical form at Tier 0 (If I do recall) and Tier 0 is above the Forerunner's most advanced Tier 1, which is far above SW by... Modern America to Mesoamerica if you would in terms of advancement, technology, informal universal knowledge, and cotrol.[/quote] Take a look at the species of Old, or Sith and Jedi that have gained true nirvana with the Galaxy. Yoda was able to forsee the future, as were many others. They had unparalleled knowledge of the force and the Galaxy. They were essentially Tier 0.
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Mhm, not sentient isn't enough? They're not in any physical form at Tier 0 (If I do recall) and Tier 0 is above the Forerunner's most advanced Tier 1, which is far above SW by... Modern America to Mesoamerica if you would in terms of advancement, technology, informal universal knowledge, and control. [url=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Precursor]Here and if you read Cryptum.[/url] [url=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Forerunner]Forerunner's.[/url] And Roberto is here to scoop CCJ right off and away. CCJ, that's nowhere near Tier 0. That's just knowledge. If that's the case, just knowledge, then the Forerunner's and Precursor's are both ginna kick all ass. Don't expect me to type that much, just link and explain. [Edited on 06.04.2011 12:17 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazyCrackerJack The thing with Star Wars tech is that it's confirmed. There are so many super weapons capable of decimating an entire Galaxy, let alone a species. The thought bomb comes to mind first, essentially it's the Star Wars version of the Halo rings in that is destroys all organic beings in a given radius. Also, the infinity waves can suck everything within a Galaxy into oblivion. And if the precursors can warp out, they'd be confronted with the Starkiller. Not the one from the games, but a droid device that'd alter the course of craft in slipspace and send them into black holes or other immense hazards. Even if these don't work, Star Wars has a [u]gigantic[/u] army that'd dwarf all of the other armies on that list. Sith Empire Old Republic Army of Light Republic Clone Army Droid Army Rebel Alliance Army ALL of the Empires Yuuzhan Vong (Which singlehandedly nearly killed off the Galaxy.)[/quote] Few problems here: 1) Not a single one of those weapons was a neural weapon 2) .......really, that's the be all end all problem right there. The only one that could theoretically work is the Infinity Waves, which Halo's ships are more then capable of warping out of, since slipspace is unaffected be reality. Thought bomb would kill everything that is a Forerunner--maybe--and below, but as Precursors ascended, they are beyond normal sentient qualms. Why? Well, the Halo Ring has been used on a Precursor before, in Cryptum. It lived. We now likely know him as the Gravemind. And the size of those armies are meaningless. If I were to give God a shotgun and put him up against every soldier, murderer, serial killer and warrior who ever lived on earth, who'd win?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazyCrackerJack [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] aaz b [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazyCrackerJack The thing with Star Wars tech is that it's confirmed. There are so many super weapons capable of decimating an entire Galaxy, let alone a species. The thought bomb comes to mind first, essentially it's the Star Wars version of the Halo rings in that is destroys all organic beings in a given radius. Also, the infinity waves can suck everything within a Galaxy into oblivion. And if the precursors can warp out, they'd be confronted with the Starkiller. Not the one from the games, but a droid device that'd alter the course of craft in slipspace and send them into black holes or other immense hazards. Even if these don't work, Star Wars has a [u]gigantic[/u] army that'd dwarf all of the other armies on that list. Sith Empire Old Republic Army of Light Republic Clone Army Droid Army Rebel Alliance Army ALL of the Empires Yuuzhan Vong (Which singlehandedly nearly killed off the Galaxy.)[/quote] I'm not arguing with you, but almost all of them armys can, and probably would, be consumed by the flood, so them massive armys would become flood "One single flood spore can destroy a species" - Shipmaster[/quote] The Flood was destroyed by a pair of supersoldiers. Which they barely did, but none the less a great feat. But it could easily be done by only Boba Fett, or a Jedi Master or Sith Lord.[/quote] Yes, but the Flood also destroyed the forerunners. The forerunners were the second most advanced people, at a Tier 1 technology. Only the precursors had better technology. Boba fett in no way could destroy the entire flood. MC was lucky that the entire flood resided at one place. Boba fett was knocked into the sarlacc pit by a blind guy. And besides, the flood isn't even wiped out. The flood are still locked away at the other Halo rings.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazyCrackerJack [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Swiftkillswitch3 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazyCrackerJack Precrusor ships don't need to be destroyed, the said Thought Bomb could kill all life aboard, or the Starkiller could suck them into a black hole. Rest my case, mofos.[/quote] If you could kill a being at Tier 0, which is far too advanced to anything even as advanced as Star Wars could give it. Doubted, CCJ. Tier 0>>> All.[/quote] So, your back up is "Tier 0" I'm pretty sure your argument sits at the same number out of a scale of 10. Give me one reason none of the above listed weapons could work.[/quote] Mhm, not sentient isn't enough? They're not in any physical form at Tier 0 (If I do recall) and Tier 0 is above the Forerunner's most advanced Tier 1, which is far above SW by... Modern America to Mesoamerica if you would in terms of advancement, technology, informal universal knowledge, and cotrol.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] aaz b [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazyCrackerJack The thing with Star Wars tech is that it's confirmed. There are so many super weapons capable of decimating an entire Galaxy, let alone a species. The thought bomb comes to mind first, essentially it's the Star Wars version of the Halo rings in that is destroys all organic beings in a given radius. Also, the infinity waves can suck everything within a Galaxy into oblivion. And if the precursors can warp out, they'd be confronted with the Starkiller. Not the one from the games, but a droid device that'd alter the course of craft in slipspace and send them into black holes or other immense hazards. Even if these don't work, Star Wars has a [u]gigantic[/u] army that'd dwarf all of the other armies on that list. Sith Empire Old Republic Army of Light Republic Clone Army Droid Army Rebel Alliance Army ALL of the Empires Yuuzhan Vong (Which singlehandedly nearly killed off the Galaxy.)[/quote] I'm not arguing with you, but almost all of them armys can, and probably would, be consumed by the flood, so them massive armys would become flood "One single flood spore can destroy a species" - Shipmaster[/quote] The Flood was destroyed by a pair of supersoldiers. Which they barely did, but none the less a great feat. But it could easily be done by only Boba Fett, or a Jedi Master or Sith Lord.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Swiftkillswitch3 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazyCrackerJack Precrusor ships don't need to be destroyed, the said Thought Bomb could kill all life aboard, or the Starkiller could suck them into a black hole. Rest my case, mofos.[/quote] If you could kill a being at Tier 0, which is far too advanced to anything even as advanced as Star Wars could give it. Doubted, CCJ. Tier 0>>> All.[/quote] So, your back up is "Tier 0" I'm pretty sure your argument sits at the same number out of a scale of 10. Give me one reason none of the above listed weapons could work.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazyCrackerJack Precrusor ships don't need to be destroyed, the said Thought Bomb could kill all life aboard, or the Starkiller could suck them into a black hole. Rest my case, mofos.[/quote] I believe that Precursor ships have AIs inside themselves, so they are not tied to biological crew. Though, this is not confirmed anywhere, atleast I havent heard about such, so my theory is only theory.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazyCrackerJack Precrusor ships don't need to be destroyed, the said Thought Bomb could kill all life aboard, or the Starkiller could suck them into a black hole. Rest my case, mofos.[/quote] If you could kill a being at Tier 0, which is far too advanced to anything even as advanced as Star Wars could give it. Doubted, CCJ. Tier 0>>> All.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazyCrackerJack The thing with Star Wars tech is that it's confirmed. There are so many super weapons capable of decimating an entire Galaxy, let alone a species. The thought bomb comes to mind first, essentially it's the Star Wars version of the Halo rings in that is destroys all organic beings in a given radius. Also, the infinity waves can suck everything within a Galaxy into oblivion. And if the precursors can warp out, they'd be confronted with the Starkiller. Not the one from the games, but a droid device that'd alter the course of craft in slipspace and send them into black holes or other immense hazards. Even if these don't work, Star Wars has a [u]gigantic[/u] army that'd dwarf all of the other armies on that list. Sith Empire Old Republic Army of Light Republic Clone Army Droid Army Rebel Alliance Army ALL of the Empires Yuuzhan Vong (Which singlehandedly nearly killed off the Galaxy.)[/quote] I'm not arguing with you, but almost all of them armys can, and probably would, be consumed by the flood, so them massive armys would become flood "One single flood spore can destroy a species" - Shipmaster [Edited on 06.04.2011 12:06 PM PDT]
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Precrusor ships don't need to be destroyed, the said Thought Bomb could kill all life aboard, or the Starkiller could suck them into a black hole. Rest my case, mofos.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh They ascended onto a transsentient plane of reality and effectively became one with the universe. What did you think the word "transsentient" meant? The Gravemind is a transsentient, and no, he is not a biological being. He uses the Flood as a body, yes, but he doesn't need them to live. The Flood goes much further back before the Gravemind came into the picture. Ever notice how the Gravemind can't die? No matter what you throw at him, he always comes back. But I have never heard anything about thinking something will happen and it happening. Though transsentience do have psychic powers, so its not out of the question.[/quote] Where is this ascension explained or told? If you can give me source then I agree with you that they are godlike. This still doesnt mean that they are omnipotent. Is it possible to destroy gravemind? Since if any flood exist, so does gravemind, right? If someone would succeed at exterminating all flood from existence, would gravemind eventually 'die'? Or is Gravemind ever existing, and so on not tied to existence of flood?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh Alright, let me ask this. What do any of the other universes have that can destroy a Precursor-built ship or structure? I'm not counting the Q. If the Q tried something on a Precursor/Precursor structure, it'd create a paradox. Just what do the others have that may do something to a Precursor ship?[/quote] And this is what people ignore in most cases in answering about a Precursors' ship death. Near impossible.
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The thing with Star Wars tech is that it's confirmed. There are so many super weapons capable of decimating an entire Galaxy, let alone a species. The thought bomb comes to mind first, essentially it's the Star Wars version of the Halo rings in that is destroys all organic beings in a given radius. Also, the infinity waves can suck everything within a Galaxy into oblivion. And if the precursors can warp out, they'd be confronted with the Starkiller. Not the one from the games, but a droid device that'd alter the course of craft in slipspace and send them into black holes or other immense hazards. Even if these don't work, Star Wars has a [u]gigantic[/u] army that'd dwarf all of the other armies on that list. Sith Empire Old Republic Army of Light Republic Clone Army Droid Army Rebel Alliance Army ALL of the Empires Yuuzhan Vong (Which singlehandedly nearly killed off the Galaxy.)
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh Alright, let me ask this. What do any of the other universes have that can destroy a Precursor-built ship or structure? I'm not counting the Q. If the Q tried something on a Precursor/Precursor structure, it'd create a paradox. Just what do the others have that may do something to a Precursor ship?[/quote] Only neural weapons can destroy a Precursor-built ship
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] S Squared4 Halo> With the ability to glass planets, no one would be able to stand a chance![/quote] Uhh. Death Star? I like Halo realism more than SW's though, so don't feel offended.
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Alright, let me ask this. What do any of the other universes have that can destroy a Precursor-built ship or structure? I'm not counting the Q. If the Q tried something on a Precursor/Precursor structure, it'd create a paradox. Just what do the others have that may do something to a Precursor ship?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Swiftkillswitch3 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazyCrackerJack Star Wars would win. Take a look at the Sun Crusher, and all of the Empire's superweapons. And if that isn't enough the Infinity Gate can simply obliterate an entire Galaxy with a simple wave of the hand.[/quote] As can the Precursor's or even Forerunner's, bud.[/quote] Depends if we ever get to see Precursor tech.
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We meet again, ROBERTO jh. STER WURZ IZ SOOOOOO MUCH KOOLER
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Starcraft
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] teekuppi [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Swiftkillswitch3 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] teekuppi [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ONPD Oh, and not to mention that the precursers could just think about the destruction of all the enemys and they would be dead, just like that. Precursers can do anything they want by just thinking about it for petes sake.[/quote] No. Atleast I have no knowledge that Precs could achieve such deeds. Precs are only advanced, but they are not gods.[/quote] The Precursor's are the grandaddies of the universe, no joke, that's how they created the Godly Forerunner's who overpowered them. The Precursor's could truly kill anything they'd want with one ship by sending fleets into death by stellar collapses, black-holes, suns. That's where the Forerunner's were able to get it..[/quote] Yes, thats what I said. They are only very advanced, which is very far from godhood. They still have no ways to kill gods, or anything that is able to manipulate existence, like Q.[/quote] They ascended onto a transsentient plane of reality and effectively became one with the universe. What did you think the word "transsentient" meant? The Gravemind is a transsentient, and no, he is not a biological being. He uses the Flood as a body, yes, but he doesn't need them to live. The Flood goes much further back before the Gravemind came into the picture. Ever notice how the Gravemind can't die? No matter what you throw at him, he always comes back. But I have never heard anything about thinking something will happen and it happening. Though transsentience do have psychic powers, so its not out of the question.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Swiftkillswitch3 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazyCrackerJack Star Wars would win. Take a look at the Sun Crusher, and all of the Empire's superweapons. And if that isn't enough the Infinity Gate can simply obliterate an entire Galaxy with a simple wave of the hand.[/quote] As can the Precursor's or even Forerunner's, bud.[/quote] Quit with this precursor stuff, you all know almost nothing about it other then they laid the entire brickwork for the forerunners. For all we know they could be pacifists. The infinity gate is a device that can rip a hole in the fabric of dimension and time, sucking all matter and life into a vortex leading to oblivion. No need to activate rings, just one push of a button.
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mass effect, cuz shepard will pwn you all with a renegade interuption
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazyCrackerJack Star Wars would win. Take a look at the Sun Crusher, and all of the Empire's superweapons. And if that isn't enough the Infinity Gate can simply obliterate an entire Galaxy with a simple wave of the hand.[/quote] As can the Precursor's or even Forerunner's, bud.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] S Squared4 Halo> With the ability to glass planets, no one would be able to stand a chance![/quote] ... except the death star...
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Star Wars So many super weapons.