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5/10/2011 5:19:08 AM
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MW2 makes Russians look retarded
MW2 makes the Russian army look retarded, the Russians aren't that easy and I will be damned if 1 US soldier could walk into a room with 5 Russian soldiers and come out a live.
If you think Russia is weak because of MW2, go to your local Gun Shop, buy a gun, load the gun, put it to your head and shoot yourself.
I'm sorry but this needed to be said.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The 13th Arbiter [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkJet7 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The 13th Arbiter [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DemonicX Zero [quote]Has eveyone forgoten the Soviet Afgahn war? The Soviets got their asses handed to them by a rag-tag militia lead by *gasp* Osama Bin Laden! [/quote] ... *Headesk* Oh because it's not like we haven't been stuck in the 'ghan for the past frickin' [i]decade[/i] now too you imbecile.... [/quote] We've also been drastically more successful than Russia. Seriously, look up the battle of Tora Bora. Failing to capture bin Laden aside (the fault for which does not belong to the people executing the actual operation), a handful of US Special Forces kicked the crap out of an entire mountain fortress full of Taliban, Al Qaeda and Chechen fighters with no losses and while being supported by a ragtag Northern alliance force that literally went home ever night, giving up all the ground they took during the day. And they still kicked the crap out of them. The Russian military? Please. [/quote] last i checked that battle was basically air strike air strike air strike hire local millitia air strike air strike air strike[/quote] Welcome to the wonderful world of force multipliers. Common sense wins drastically more battles than "HURR DURR MOTHER RUSSIA". I'd like to point out that Delta Force operators spent days on end on that mountain in subzero temperatures calling down those airstrikes. Go read "Kill Bin Laden". It's written by the commander of the Delta Detachment. Those guys are harder than any Spetsnaz operator ever born. [/quote] that;s not the point, the point is that all they did was call in airstrikes. Force multipliers go behind enemy territory and train local militia, in this case the local militia was HIRED.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DemonicX Zero [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War[/url] The Soviets were fighting a guerilla war in a foreign land against fighters with intimate knowledge of the terrain, U.S Support, and the people's support. It's damn near impossible to win a war like that. True, you could win [i]every -blam!- battle[/i], and have [i]vastly[/i] superior troops, but you'd still lose the war. Much like what happened to us in Vietnam. [/quote] We did not lose due to them being better than us! Politics is why we lost, not our soldiers.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] David iZ Mental I will be damned if 1 US soldier could walk into a room with 5 Russian soldiers and come out a live. [/quote] You know we're not at war with them, right?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The 13th Arbiter [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Insane_Gunman [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BOB THE DOCTER dude its a game made by egotistical americans, of course USA = number one![/quote] Have you seen the Black Ops ending?![/quote] I was half-expecting "America -blam!- Yeah" to play. It was certainly rather amusing. [/quote] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYVbEDa-lBY]I laughed so hard when I saw it.[/url]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Insane_Gunman [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BOB THE DOCTER dude its a game made by egotistical americans, of course USA = number one![/quote] Have you seen the Black Ops ending?![/quote] I was half-expecting "America -blam!- Yeah" to play. It was certainly rather amusing.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BOB THE DOCTER dude its a game made by egotistical americans, of course USA = number one![/quote] Have you seen the Black Ops ending?!
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dude its a game made by egotistical americans, of course USA = number one!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] David iZ Mental MW2 makes the Russian army look retarded, the Russians aren't that easy and I will be damned if 1 US soldier could walk into a room with 5 Russian soldiers and come out a live. If you think Russia is weak because of MW2, go to your local Gun Shop, buy a gun, load the gun, put it to your head and shoot yourself. I'm sorry but this needed to be said. [/quote] \MW2. Found your problem. The whole game was retarded.
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A soldier is only as good as the circumstances he's placed in. I don't care how skilled you are, there is no set number of people you can take out before you die... Saying soldier1 can take out blank amounts of soldier2 is ridiculous.
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We are talking about COD here last time I checked getting jelly spread on your face when shot is extremely accurate. I am really glad you honestly thought that people play COD to get an Historic, Accurate, or Realistic shooter experience.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Frimid The Russian soldiers in MW2 are Spetsnaz, correct? If so, I don't really see how the Army Rangers blew threw them so easily in the game's campaign.[/quote] Because they're Rangers. Fighting for their home turf. The Russians just pissed off the best light infantry unit on the face of the Earth. And then all their fancy air support got EMP'd, making them a bunch of outnumbered guys holding the most significant landmarks to a really large group of pissed off elite infantry. In layman's terms, they were screwed. No reach around or anything.
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The Russian soldiers in MW2 are Spetsnaz, correct? If so, I don't really see how the Army Rangers blew threw them so easily in the game's campaign. [Edited on 05.09.2011 10:50 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Iodine well duh a hand to hand combat scenario is completely situational. But im sure a ranger would get knocked out. thats if they land a triple tap to the heart the rangers dont have god like aim, especially not if their being shot at as well. why are we even arguing about this? Spetsnaz are bad ass ninjas/jar heads who are dispatched in hostage situations rangers are practical soliders who win. agree? (and i know they completely suck ass at rescuing hostages its kinda funny)[/quote] You've clearly never watched quality marksmen shoot. I can hit a center mass double tap on the move with ease, and I get to shoot maybe two weekends a month, if I'm lucky. Spetsnaz are a quality military unit. They're just nowhere near as good as everyone wants to believe they are.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Slodogk [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Insane_Gunman [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Slodogk for sure reznov is the most quotable character in the game [/quote] [url=http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Viktor_Reznov/Quotes]Then you'll love this.[/url][/quote] heck yea ur my best friend now[/quote] <3
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Insane_Gunman [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Slodogk for sure reznov is the most quotable character in the game [/quote] [url=http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Viktor_Reznov/Quotes]Then you'll love this.[/url][/quote] heck yea ur my best friend now
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Insane_Gunman [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hicobo [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Insane_Gunman btw the guy in beginning didn't die[/quote] Has eveyone forgoten the Soviet Afgahn war? The Soviets got their asses handed to them by a rag-tag militia lead by *gasp* Osama Bin Laden![/quote] Be aware CIA went in and trained much of the militia and gave them the new stinger missile which proved deadly against MI-24s.[/quote] Point taken, just saying the Soviets lost.[/quote] Same way we lost Vietnam, and have pretty much lost Afghanistan.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Slodogk for sure reznov is the most quotable character in the game [/quote] [url=http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Viktor_Reznov/Quotes]Then you'll love this.[/url]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Insane_Gunman [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Slodogk [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Insane_Gunman [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Slodogk [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] David iZ Mental MW2 makes the Russian army look retarded, the Russians aren't that easy and I will be damned if 1 US soldier could walk into a room with 5 Russian soldiers and come out a live. If you think Russia is weak because of MW2, go to your local Gun Shop, buy a gun, load the gun, put it to your head and shoot yourself. I'm sorry but this needed to be said. [/quote] really? i thought russians were pretty cool they got awesome accents and names[/quote] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx3A2TdAuOI]True.[/url][/quote] hahah thats my favorite line[/quote] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFbPNpkcGGg]This one is definetly in my top 5.[/url][/quote] for sure reznov is the most quotable character in the game
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The 13th Arbiter [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Iodine a russian spetsnaz solider could easily take out a ranger (hand to hand of course) if you give them their military's choice of weapon it could be anyones game. just saying im sure a spetsnaz operative could take a few hits from a pistol and not feel a thing which i think is pretty badass[/quote] I hate to break it to you, but Russian Spetsnaz do not possess some magical superhuman DNA. I know one current Ranger and am related to a former Ranger, and I would pit them against anyone in hand to hand. But arguing hand to hand is stupid, because it's a completely situational thing. You're correct in that a Spetsnaz operative wouldn't feel anything. Because a triple-tap to the center mass, shredding the heart and causing severe internal damage, generally has that effect. Permanently. I don't care how many tables you can pick up with your teeth, basic human physiology still applies. Which is why the US tends to teach more practical things to it's soldiers. Because we like winning, not being known for pulling off flipping tomahawk attacks and being completely incompetent at rescuing hostages. [/quote] well duh a hand to hand combat scenario is completely situational. But im sure a ranger would get knocked out. thats if they land a triple tap to the heart the rangers dont have god like aim, especially not if their being shot at as well. why are we even arguing about this? Spetsnaz are bad ass ninjas/jar heads who are dispatched in hostage situations rangers are practical soliders who win. agree? (and i know they completely suck ass at rescuing hostages its kinda funny)
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] David iZ Mental [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The 13th Arbiter [/quote] [url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1370758/Shocking-video-shows-U-S-troops-cheering-airstrike-blows-Afghan-civilians.html]Say what?[/url] [url=http://scarletwhore.com/?p=4359]12 US Soldiers form American Kill Team[/url].[/quote] 1. Not special forces. I thought you were bragging about how great Spetsnaz was? What's the matter, can't find any more stories about how US SF managed to screw up a hostage rescue? 2. I'd be at the head of the line to execute every last one of those guys. 3. Do I really need to go dig up supporting evidence for the fact that the Soviets slaughtered entire families in Beirut? Or the fact that they committed enough war crimes to keep the Haque busy for the next decade while fighting the Chechen rebels? Yeah, the Daegestan Massacre Video is horrible, but it went both ways. [Edited on 05.09.2011 10:40 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Slodogk [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Insane_Gunman [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Slodogk [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] David iZ Mental MW2 makes the Russian army look retarded, the Russians aren't that easy and I will be damned if 1 US soldier could walk into a room with 5 Russian soldiers and come out a live. If you think Russia is weak because of MW2, go to your local Gun Shop, buy a gun, load the gun, put it to your head and shoot yourself. I'm sorry but this needed to be said. [/quote] really? i thought russians were pretty cool they got awesome accents and names[/quote] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx3A2TdAuOI]True.[/url][/quote] hahah thats my favorite line[/quote] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFbPNpkcGGg]This one is definetly in my top 5.[/url]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] JJAB91 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DemonicX Zero [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War[/url] The Soviets were fighting a guerilla war in a foreign land against fighters with intimate knowledge of the terrain, U.S Support, and the people's support. It's damn near impossible to win a war like that. True, you could win [i]every -blam!- battle[/i], and have [i]vastly[/i] superior troops, but you'd still lose the war. Much like what happened to us in Vietnam. [/quote] >Implying The United States lost the Vietnam Conflict. [/quote] -blam!- sake don't start this. It was a war.
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Cool story bro.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DemonicX Zero [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War[/url] The Soviets were fighting a guerilla war in a foreign land against fighters with intimate knowledge of the terrain, U.S Support, and the people's support. It's damn near impossible to win a war like that. True, you could win [i]every -blam!- battle[/i], and have [i]vastly[/i] superior troops, but you'd still lose the war. Much like what happened to us in Vietnam. [/quote] >Implying The United States lost the Vietnam Conflict.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DemonicX Zero [quote]You obviously don't stay current so I'm gonna go ahead and tell you: The United States KILLED Osama Bin Laden last week. The guy who organized a milita and stoped a Soviet invasion has been killed by the US[/quote] Yes, that's nice and everything. America -blam!- YEAH! and all that noise. But what do you think that's going to do to change anything? Hmm? What? Do you think that now that the bugger's dead we'll just pack up and go home. The Taliban are still out there, and there other people who are more than capable of stepping in the fill Osama's shoes. This may just be a case of trading one villain for another. You want to know how you win a guerilla war gunman? You get the people on your side. You know, the guys who could be harboring said guerillas in their homes, providing them intel, stuff like that. As I've already said...what 3 times, you can't win wars like Vietnam and Afghanistan using conventional forces. Better training, and awesome wunderwaffen tech isn't going to change any of that.[/quote] I'm not saying we won, I'm saying the guy that had the Russians running back home has been killed by the US and I was simply disproving that our involvement in the Middle East is similar to the Soviet invasion during the Cold War.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkJet7 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The 13th Arbiter [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DemonicX Zero [quote]Has eveyone forgoten the Soviet Afgahn war? The Soviets got their asses handed to them by a rag-tag militia lead by *gasp* Osama Bin Laden! [/quote] ... *Headesk* Oh because it's not like we haven't been stuck in the 'ghan for the past frickin' [i]decade[/i] now too you imbecile.... [/quote] We've also been drastically more successful than Russia. Seriously, look up the battle of Tora Bora. Failing to capture bin Laden aside (the fault for which does not belong to the people executing the actual operation), a handful of US Special Forces kicked the crap out of an entire mountain fortress full of Taliban, Al Qaeda and Chechen fighters with no losses and while being supported by a ragtag Northern alliance force that literally went home ever night, giving up all the ground they took during the day. And they still kicked the crap out of them. The Russian military? Please. [/quote] last i checked that battle was basically air strike air strike air strike hire local millitia air strike air strike air strike[/quote] Welcome to the wonderful world of force multipliers. Common sense wins drastically more battles than "HURR DURR MOTHER RUSSIA". I'd like to point out that Delta Force operators spent days on end on that mountain in subzero temperatures calling down those airstrikes. Go read "Kill Bin Laden". It's written by the commander of the Delta Detachment. Those guys are harder than any Spetsnaz operator ever born.
