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5/4/2011 12:50:09 AM
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I say Noble 6 is equal to Master Chief.
With the Covenant successfully disabling Reach's defenses, Six was among the few surviving UNSC soldiers left fighting the Covenant forces on the ground. Six continued fighting, and held off an army of Covenant, including Wraith tanks and air support. Six was eventually heavily wounded by plasma fire and, after taking on multiple Ultra and Zealot Class Elites in hand to hand combat, was finally overwhelmed and killed amongst a pile of slain enemies at the hands of no less than an Elite Field Marshall wielding an energy dagger. Six's helmet remained on Reach, even after the planet was glassed by the Covenant and after the planet was terraformed
They are the only "Hyper Lethal" rated spartans afterall...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ALPHAslayER1911 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] L0V3LikeRockets [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] albinogoat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] L0V3LikeRockets But heres the problem, Reach isn't canon, so technically Six doesn't exist. So you can't really fight something that doesn't exist right? So Chief wins by default. /thread[/quote] Thats like saying the Star Wars prequels aren't canon. Any game that is published in the Halo series trumps any books. No matter how much the canon is retconned to fit the game's plot it is still canon. Not the books.[/quote] It is a problem, however, when the game contradicts the previous 4 Halo games made by Bungie though. Thus the reason it isn't canon.[/quote] Contact Harvest isn't canon either. It says that the Brutes were one of the first Covenant species to make contact with humanity. However, in the Fall of Reach, Halsey tells the Spartans about the known Covenant species; Grunts, Jackals, Hunters, Engineers, and presumably, Elites. She does not mention Brutes. That means Conact Harvest never happened. So Johnson never got laid, ever, at all. [/quote] To say Contact Harvest isn't canon is to say Halo 2, 3, and ODST aren't canon. What happened was a retcon, and by your logic Reach shouldn't be canon either. OT: I agree. People, of course, are going to defend Chief because he's been in more games.
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[quote] Posted by: TURTLER9 master chief is a spartan III, instantly making him better. [/quote] Spartan IIIs were made to be expendable. Spartan IIs were not. [Edited on 06.17.2011 2:23 PM PDT]
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"[i] Noble six, has made entire Covenant battalions dissapear, with a hyper lethal vector. There is only ONE other spartan that holds that same status.[/i]" [Edited on 06.17.2011 2:21 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] L0V3LikeRockets [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] albinogoat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] L0V3LikeRockets But heres the problem, Reach isn't canon, so technically Six doesn't exist. So you can't really fight something that doesn't exist right? So Chief wins by default. /thread[/quote] Thats like saying the Star Wars prequels aren't canon. Any game that is published in the Halo series trumps any books. No matter how much the canon is retconned to fit the game's plot it is still canon. Not the books.[/quote] It is a problem, however, when the game contradicts the previous 4 Halo games made by Bungie though. Thus the reason it isn't canon.[/quote] Contact Harvest isn't canon either. It says that the Brutes were one of the first Covenant species to make contact with humanity. However, in the Fall of Reach, Halsey tells the Spartans about the known Covenant species; Grunts, Jackals, Hunters, Engineers, and presumably, Elites. She does not mention Brutes. That means Conact Harvest never happened. So Johnson never got laid, ever, at all.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Neon Iz Beast [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] L0V3LikeRockets If 6 is as good as Master Chief, then why did he die? Chief lived through three games, Six couldn't even make it off the initial planet.[/quote] Master Chief Would have died if it wasn't for six.[/quote] Six doesn't even exist in the first place, none of Noble team did, going by Novel cannon. [Edited on 06.17.2011 2:15 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TURTLER9 master chief is a spartan III, instantly making him better.[/quote] Issue, the chief is a spartan 2 just to let you know. 6 is the young guy compared to the chief.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MastaSlapAHoe[/quote]
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he is a sparten 2 dum a$$
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] L0V3LikeRockets [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ReconHunter101 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SirPwn4g3 How does Six's actions directly affect Chief's life? Considering there is no statement saying Chief wouldn't have fared just fine I think this statement is completely false. [/quote] -cough-Getting Cortana to PoA -cough-[/quote] Even if you take Reach as canon (which it is not) then you would realize that the Cortana delivered to the PoA was merely a copied part of Cortana. Cortana was on the PoA the entire time.[/quote] Sorry Bro Reach is Cannon, in fact wasnt it Bungie themselves that said Games>Books for Cannon? Oh and when you read that it means Games are Greater Than Books for Cannon. In Short The Games are more likely to be considered true to the storyline than any book you have read. Problem solved, good day to you sir..... I SAID GOOD DAY SIR!!!!
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The way I see it... Without N6 = No Halo Reach game. No Halo Reach game = No need for the PoA to be on Reach. PoA in Space during battle = Normal and accepted canon for 10 years before Reach changed that. So those saying that "OMG if N6 wasn't around, the Cruiser would've destroyed the PoA", well you're wrong. The story worked fine before Noble Team was introduced. But anyway. MC clearly beats N6.
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(Note: Noble Six only died because he/she wanted to be the one to man the MAC gun and make sure the Cruiser was destroyed)[/quote] probably he/she is the only ont that could've he was hyper leathel the only other person was cheif who was too busy running away i meen getting off reach
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1 dude he blew up 1 am talking about how many halos cheif broke [Edited on 06.17.2011 1:53 PM PDT]
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he did not kill tarterus u tard that was the arbiter talkin about who killed tarterus [Edited on 06.17.2011 1:53 PM PDT]
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coz at the end of reach cheif ran away like a little pu*sy how cheif got off reach [Edited on 06.17.2011 1:53 PM PDT]
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no six just responed agin agin agin and killed all of them
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Fred is not dead he is in Onyx along with Kelly, Linda, Hasley, Team Saber and Mendez. In my opinion Kurt was the best Spartan II. one because he trained every single spartan III. Two because he was a great leader on Onyx
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ReconHunter101 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SirPwn4g3 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ReconHunter101 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SirPwn4g3 How does Six's actions directly affect Chief's life? Considering there is no statement saying Chief wouldn't have fared just fine I think this statement is completely false. [/quote] -cough-Getting Cortana to PoA -cough-[/quote] -cough-Never read the books?-cough- There are conflicting stories and it's up to 343 now to clear it up. The book says Cortana was already on the ship. Everything fits in much nicer of the entire last half of Reach was some weird Spartan dream. Bungie's not in charge anymore, so games don't always trump books, especially since Bungie was so sloppy.[/quote] They've always been canon, and to have 343 come out and say "No, that's wrong." is just ignorant. Don't change it just to suit your likings, just suck it up and move on.[/quote] What's always been canon? The books that Bungie said was canon and then crapped all over? I'm saying that Bungie was sloppy with Reach and their canon is broken. If the game AND books are correct. Cortana was training with Chief while she was underground splitting herself to get onto the Pillar of Autumn which was docked AND on it's way to Halo at the same time. That's just a part of why Bungie's canon is broken. Also, guys, it's already been stated that it's the Chief on the PoA in that non-canon easter egg, it's purely a treat. If you're going to take easter eggs that seriously then Buck also likes to groom strange monkey men. [Edited on 05.04.2011 6:33 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ultra Force Noble Six and the Chief aren't equal in physical terms but John-117 is definately more skilled than S-B312. 1. Six is a SPARTAN-III. Which means that his augments were very simular but did not make him as strong or fast as a S-II. 2. The Chief had luck. A trait many other SPARTANs didn't seem to get as often during the war. 3. After the destruction of Installation 04, John was able to receieve the MJOLNIR Mark V. (Note: Noble Six only died because he/she wanted to be the one to man the MAC gun and make sure the Cruiser was destroyed)[/quote] The only skill the Chief possesses that 6 doesn't, is experience. 1.Through their augmentations both Spartans were equal. 2.I'll grant you that, his 'luck' also helps explain how he made it through 3 games when any other NPC Spartan II would have died. 3. Chief was given Mark VI after Halo.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lord Takaa Yet you can see him in cyro on the PoA[/quote] It's a non-canon easter egg.
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[/quote] *cough*[i]linda[/i]*cough*[/quote] Linda would have been with him. Linda, Chief an James all went to the platform.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lord Takaa [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] L0V3LikeRockets [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Neon Iz Beast [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] L0V3LikeRockets [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Neon Iz Beast Master Chief Would have died if it wasn't for six.[/quote] How's that?[/quote] PoA would have Been destroyed if 6 did not disable the carrier/ corvette w/e it is. chief was on PoA[/quote] Chief was in space on board an orbital space station, then he met up with the PoA later.[/quote] Yet you can see him in cyro on the PoA[/quote] *cough*[i]linda[/i]*cough*
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] L0V3LikeRockets [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Neon Iz Beast [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] L0V3LikeRockets [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Neon Iz Beast [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] L0V3LikeRockets If 6 is as good as Master Chief, then why did he die? Chief lived through three games, Six couldn't even make it off the initial planet.[/quote] Master Chief Would have died if it wasn't for six.[/quote] How's that?[/quote] PoA would have Been destroyed if 6 did not disable the carrier/ corvette w/e it is. chief was on PoA[/quote] Chief was in space on board an orbital space station, then he met up with the PoA later.[/quote] Yet you can see him in cyro on the PoA
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Noble Six and the Chief aren't equal in physical terms but John-117 is definately more skilled than S-B312. 1. Six is a SPARTAN-III. Which means that his augments were very simular but did not make him as strong or fast as a S-II. 2. The Chief had luck. A trait many other SPARTANs didn't seem to get as often during the war. 3. After the destruction of Installation 04, John was able to receieve the MJOLNIR Mark V. (Note: Noble Six only died because he/she wanted to be the one to man the MAC gun and make sure the Cruiser was destroyed)
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dr H3r0 Didn't masterchief blow two scarabs at once, and stop the ENTIRE covenant army almost single-handedly? Yes.[/quote] As well as wiping out not one, but two flood infestations and a multitude of forerunner mechs.
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Ouch thats a bold statement my dude! First and foremost both characters play a huge role in the Halo univerae. Agreed! I've read all the books and have been playing all the games since H1 on original xbox as well. But I am definitely going to have to say that Master Chief did more for the Halo Universe then Noble 6 did on the premise that he was able to destroy the flood and end the covenant war. Granite Noble 6 made his story possible, I still believe Master Chief's impact on the ficiton of the Halo Universe has a far greater impact. The other thing that I think kind of hurts Noble 6's claim to fame against the other Spartans in the Halo universe is that he was a newer spartan 3 while Master Chief was a spartan 2. therefore he had was essentially "upgraded". I think for being an older spartan Master Chief did more in the long run as an older spartan. Hope you like my opinion! Great topic!
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I totally agree that model 2's are better than 3s but isn't it ironic that jorge died first?
