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4/9/2011 1:52:46 AM
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"Think Twice" Map feedback thread (now available)

[quote][b]Updated [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=58880594&postRepeater1-p=1#58880616]Thread Disclaimer[/url] below[/b][/quote] Download[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16952073&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat][b] "Think Twice"[/b][/url] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRuXUdYk6TA]Think Twice gameplay montage[/url] by riftegifle -[url=http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=1067705]Halo.Bungie.Org post[/url] -[url=http://www.reachingperfection.com/2011/04/think-twice.html]ReachingPerfection Post[/url] -[url=http://www.forgehub.com/forum/reach-competitive-maps/124573-think-twice.html]Forgehub Thread[/url] -[url=http://halocharts.com/grouppages.php?group_id=4984&page=Think%20Twice]HaloCharts Satryros thread[/url] (public page) [quote][b]Screenshots[/b] [url=http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5228/5653850654_8dfd427242_b.jpg]Red Base[/url] [url=http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5304/5653850826_91fb64ae16_b.jpg]Blue Base[/url] [url=http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5150/5653279813_62b8a4d060_b.jpg]Green Room[/url] [url=http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5222/5653279655_cb9996118a_b.jpg]Gold Room[/url] [url=http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5146/5653279717_50d3b6f206_b.jpg]Top Center[/url] [url=http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5230/5653279511_0852e4fb92_b.jpg]Bottom Center[/url] [url=http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5063/5653427773_6054e6fdc8_b.jpg]Top and Bottom Levels[/url] [/quote] The Think Twice Public Beta has concluded. On behalf of the four of us, we thank all of you who participated in testing and posted feedback in this thread. Your comments helped the map nearly reach perfection. Our refined and polished design is now available for all to download and share. However, a map is never finished, so this thread will continue to serve as the feedback thread for Think Twice. Thanks again for all of your support. To view the list of changes from Beta to now, as well as new videos, please see [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=58880594&postRepeater1-p=28#59369861]this post[/url]. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL-S3S2aXW8]Final Version Youtube Walkthrough[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=news&cid=31214]Public Beta on Comm Chatter[/url] (thanks for your support Urk!) >[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJvNTnWPvlc]Beta Gameplay[/url] on youtube [i]Think Twice[/i] is a simple, yet innovative competitive multiplayer map created by Sven Nietzsche, GodlyPerfection, Jonzorz 124, and myself. The public beta ran from April 11th 2011 to April 23rd 2011. We received constructive and profound feedback from many of the testers, which was invaluable in fine-tuning the map. We humbly thank all of the participants. Your comments have refined the map and made it much better. [b]Beta Action-Shots[/b] [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16392256&player=Sven Nietzsche]Battle for the Green Room[/url] [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16392252&player=Sven Nietzsche]Whoever wins gets the Healthpack![/url] [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16392287&player=Sven Nietzsche] I guess I lose...[/url] [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16392312&player=Sven Nietzsche] Obi! I told you not to feed the Dinos!![/url] [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16392311&player=Sven Nietzsche]Soo Much Awsome![/url] [quote][/quote] [Edited on 04.27.2011 8:04 AM PDT]
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  • I'll be sure to test this out. Looks good. Keep up the work.

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  • Forgetastic Four is not a good name for a group... We'll think of something.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mass Craziness [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat I'm thinking of starting a group for that sole purpose. You vote, we build, you test, and we send it to matchmaking. I'll keep everyone posted about that if it goes through. [/quote] This sounds like a good idea, I definitely like that. It would provide for more ideas from the community, meaning different, as well as unconventional map ideas that could work.[/quote] Plus it would be really fun for the Forgetastic Four! yeah! FORGETASTIC FOUR! Goat doesn't like that ; D. so lets make it stick.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat I'm thinking of starting a group for that sole purpose. You vote, we build, you test, and we send it to matchmaking. I'll keep everyone posted about that if it goes through. [/quote] This sounds like a good idea, I definitely like that. It would provide for more ideas from the community, meaning different, as well as unconventional map ideas that could work. [Edited on 04.11.2011 10:31 AM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dr D04K I do a lot of map browsing (mostly via forgehub), and I see a lot of fly/walk-throughs, and then DL and play them, so I've developed a pretty good eye for a good map when I see one. That said, I have doubts about this one. While the aesthetics look really nice, I will be shocked if the gameplay matches. If you guys really do have the clout and resources to get maps into matchmaking, why not find REALLY good ones instead of promoting sub-par ones you make yourself?[/quote] There are several problems with Forgehub maps in general. The first one is that thye almost always have framerate issues. This is because they either don't understand how to eliminate these problems, or they only build for aesthetic appeal. Let's face it--even if your map plays well, it being all grey and dull is going to stick with people while they are on it. Conversely, maps built only for the sake of looking good usually play terribly. The maps by the 4 of us are not 'sub-par'. Gameplay may not be to your liking, but the fact remains that it is well-forged and more complete than many maps out there (including the majority of the Forgehub maps). You wont find a higher-quality map forge-wise because we pay attention to [i]everything[/i]. We bump test our ramps to get rid of popping up on the radar when you crouch over them. We sprint-run every merged piece to make sure you don't pop up when you run into it. We even make sure there aren't lighting differences on the pieces that we place. Think Twice is one of those where the screens and videos don't do it justice. You have to play on it to see for yourself. And even if you sitll don't like it then, you'll find that there are no splitscreen issues, no framerate problems, no bad spawns, no unbalanced weapons, and no sloppy forging areas. That is what we excel at. The gameplay is the community's responsibility, and if you truly want to see good maps into matchmaking, you'll help those who have to power to get them into matchmaking to make good maps. We're scouting for other good maps out there as well. I'm thinking of starting a group for that sole purpose. You vote, we build, you test, and we send it to matchmaking. I'll keep everyone posted about that if it goes through.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jonzorz_124 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Robythesadist Just downloaded the Beta Version, I would LOVE to play a few custom games with the creators, if possible, hit me up on my gamertag Robythesadist[/quote] Ill be sure to hit you up with an invite later. Will you be on at any particular time?[/quote] not if I invite him first!

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Robythesadist Just downloaded the Beta Version, I would LOVE to play a few custom games with the creators, if possible, hit me up on my gamertag Robythesadist[/quote] Ill be sure to hit you up with an invite later. Will you be on at any particular time?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Obi Wan Stevobi [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Godly_Perfection As you can see folks the Public Beta is up and running. Here is the download link as well as an HD Video of gameplay with some iconic figures of the Halo Community. Here is the match up: [u][b]Red Team[/b][/u] [i]Achronos GodlyPerfection TuffJuice umd z[/i] [b]---VERSUS---[/b] [u][b]Blue Team[/b][/u] [i]iXscaped JPeloquin218 Obi Wan Stevobi Sven Nietzsche[/i] Rendered Vid: [url]http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16407544&player=GodlyPerfection[/url] Youtube: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJvNTnWPvlc[/url] [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16407557&player=GodlyPerfection][b]Download [Beta] Think Twice[/b][/url][/quote] Video did not have enough of me killing you[/quote] lol, but it did have enough of you failing... :P. Where's your sniper now fool! ;)

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Godly_Perfection As you can see folks the Public Beta is up and running. Here is the download link as well as an HD Video of gameplay with some iconic figures of the Halo Community. Here is the match up: [u][b]Red Team[/b][/u] [i]Achronos GodlyPerfection TuffJuice umd z[/i] [b]---VERSUS---[/b] [u][b]Blue Team[/b][/u] [i]iXscaped JPeloquin218 Obi Wan Stevobi Sven Nietzsche[/i] Rendered Vid: [url]http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16407544&player=GodlyPerfection[/url] Youtube: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJvNTnWPvlc[/url] [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16407557&player=GodlyPerfection][b]Download [Beta] Think Twice[/b][/url][/quote] Video did not have enough of me killing you

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  • Just downloaded the Beta Version, I would LOVE to play a few custom games with the creators, if possible, hit me up on my gamertag Robythesadist

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  • As you can see folks the Public Beta is up and running. Here is the download link as well as an HD Video of gameplay with some iconic figures of the Halo Community. Here is the match up: [u][b]Red Team[/b][/u] [i]Achronos GodlyPerfection TuffJuice umd z[/i] [b]---VERSUS---[/b] [u][b]Blue Team[/b][/u] [i]iXscaped JPeloquin218 Obi Wan Stevobi Sven Nietzsche[/i] Rendered Vid: [url]http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16407544&player=GodlyPerfection[/url] Youtube: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJvNTnWPvlc[/url] [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16407557&player=GodlyPerfection][b]Download [Beta] Think Twice[/b][/url]

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  • I do a lot of map browsing (mostly via forgehub), and I see a lot of fly/walk-throughs, and then DL and play them, so I've developed a pretty good eye for a good map when I see one. That said, I have doubts about this one. While the aesthetics look really nice, I will be shocked if the gameplay matches. If you guys really do have the clout and resources to get maps into matchmaking, why not find REALLY good ones instead of promoting sub-par ones you make yourself?

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  • Downloading now. Later, I'll hit up Forge and do a fly-through. [Edited on 04.11.2011 8:32 AM PDT]

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  • It looks decent but it's nothing mind blowing.

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  • Downloading now! [i]If only I could get on my Xbox...[/i]

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  • It certainly wows me.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Godly_Perfection [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] kingofsmash1 Will there be more tests this week? [/quote] We will be doing regular tests all the time. However Monday we are releasing the public beta so you can download it and play it with your friends. [/quote] I'll put up a new batch of screens tomorrow as well. [/quote] Sounds good I will be writing out the public beta post tomorrow and putting it on my fileshare at around 6-8am Pacific. So if you want to be one of the firsts than watch the fileshare. I will be sure to PM everyone in the thread with a download link.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Godly_Perfection [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] kingofsmash1 Will there be more tests this week? [/quote] We will be doing regular tests all the time. However Monday we are releasing the public beta so you can download it and play it with your friends. [/quote] I'll put up a new batch of screens tomorrow as well.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] kingofsmash1 Will there be more tests this week? [/quote] We will be doing regular tests all the time. However Monday we are releasing the public beta so you can download it and play it with your friends. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Homeboyd903 I want in on the next round of testing! This looks dope, son![/quote] Sounds good bro. Or you can download the public beta and pull your own testing together and tell us how it goes with a full group that hasn't played it before.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Homeboyd903 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] iI GenoXide Ii I wish I could forge something like that, there was only one map I put effort on that I did a long ago after that map I never forged again... but this map is pretty nice Goat I saw the video fly through for the Beta Version keep up the good work.[/quote] Play some games with these guys.. great teachers :)[/quote] Probably, its hard sometimes to bring out ideas for forging sometimes, then again it could be me. Maybe I should play a game or two with them.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] iI GenoXide Ii I wish I could forge something like that, there was only one map I put effort on that I did a long ago after that map I never forged again... but this map is pretty nice Goat I saw the video fly through for the Beta Version keep up the good work.[/quote] Play some games with these guys.. great teachers :)

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  • I wish I could forge something like that, there was only one map I put effort on that I did a long ago after that map I never forged again... but this map is pretty nice Goat I saw the video fly through for the Beta Version keep up the good work.

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  • Will there be more tests this week?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] angello22 Gray. Generic. Confusing. Grenade spamming friendly. Pfft, at least you tried. *thumbs down*[/quote] I have never seen you in any of the playtests. [/quote] correct

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  • I want in on the next round of testing! This looks dope, son!

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] angello22 Gray. Generic. Confusing. Grenade spamming friendly. Pfft, at least you tried. *thumbs down*[/quote] I have never seen you in any of the playtests.

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