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4/6/2011 3:11:01 AM
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Is the Arbiter in the last cutscene of Lone Wolf?
*SPOILERS*
Ok, first off Im not talking about Halo 3's arbiter, Im talking about which ever one was before him.
Second, Im also not talking about the Elite that stabs Noble Six, Im talking about the one that steps in front of the camera at the end.
And third, I also reallize that this has been the topic of many other threads but I never found that they stated the question very well so thats why I posted this one.......
PS: please watch the last cutscene again be for you reply.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] switch 104 sv [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] willismaster [url=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Arbiter]Link[/url] Known Arbiters This is a list of all known Arbiters in chronological order. 1. Unnamed Arbiter during the Taming of the Lekgolo, tasked with pacifying the Lekgolo resistance. 2. Unnamed Arbiter during the Unggoy Rebellion, tasked with quelling the uprising. 3. Fal 'Chavamee - Arbiter during the period between the discovery of the Unggoy and the contact with humanity. 4. Ripa 'Moramee - The seventeenth Arbiter in the line of Immaculate Succession who led Covenant forces on Harvest, Arcadia, and a Flood-controlled Shield World. 5. Unnamed Arbiter during the Battle of Jericho VII. [quote]6. Unnamed Arbiter during the Fall of Reach. [/quote] 7. Thel 'Vadam - Arbiter who defeated the heretics led by Sesa 'Refumee, led the Covenant Separatists during the Great Schism, and was John-117's companion during the end of the Human-Covenant War. [/quote] I'm going to assume that you have taken this information form Halopedia. If that is the case then the Arbiter referred to, the one being on Reach, is cited from an interactive board game which also includes the Chief being on Reach, and we all know he wasn't. Therefore the game itself cannot be considered a canonical reference and the would-be "Reach Arbiter" still has no factual evidence for his existence. On another note, if there was an Arbiter on Reach, or indeed if Bungie decided to put one in the game, do you really think they would only put in his foot? Really? A bit of common sense people. If Bungie wanted to put an Arbiter in the game we sure as hell would have known about it.[/quote] I got it from Halo nation not Halopedia. Also, how do you know that the interactive board game was based on the Fall on Reach, and how do you know that's where Halopedia got the "Arbiter on Reach" idea? Give me proof, [i]then[/i] i'll believe you.
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everybody has to start somewhere
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The would-be-Arbiter was the Ship Commander on the Covenant Cruiser. He followed the Pillar of Autumn as it made its way out to the atmosphere and into slipscpace. How could he be in two places at once? Lone Wolf took place hours AFTER the Pillar of Autumn hauled ass from Reach. [Edited on 04.20.2011 12:33 PM PDT]
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its just another Zealot class, it's not really an "arbiter".
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I thought the arbiter never set foot on reach????
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untrue it is very possible that bungie changed the hand that the sword was beeing held just to give a more dramatic effect. also it is untrue that the arbitor was left handed the arbitor changes after the death of the current one and there is no proof given in any way to suggest that the arbitor was left handed or infact even on reach in the game. all information pertaining to his existance is all rumor by the forum and has absolutly no evidence to hold it. .... in a nut shell Put alot more thought into a simple cinamatic than even the creators
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I like to pretend.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] halo3334 Crap, didnt see that, oh well, But there still was an Arbiter, but there wasnt an Arbiter in the cutscene, like I asked my friend if the Arbiters were the only left handed Elites.... "No it has to do with the clan they come from, Back on their home planet Sanghelios." This was his reply btw[/quote] Not every Arbiter was Left handed look at the Arbiter out of Halo Wars he was a dual wielding Elite.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] halo3334 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ITZ andrewfo0l X [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] StealthSlasher2 Both of you need to chill. This line of discussion is irrelevant to the topic of hand anyway. Knowing if there was an Arbiter or not during the events of Halo Reach has absolutely nothing to do with proving if the one pulling an energy sword at the end of Lone Wolf is one.[/quote] Nah, it relates. How can it be Arbiter, if there was no Arbiter at the time?[/quote] Thel[/quote] It couldn't be Thel since The Halo ring only gets destroyed by MC doing. So Thel is clearly of the hook on that matter.
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Crap, didnt see that, oh well, But there still was an Arbiter, but there wasnt an Arbiter in the cutscene, like I asked my friend if the Arbiters were the only left handed Elites.... "No it has to do with the clan they come from, Back on their home planet Sanghelios." This was his reply btw
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] halo3334 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ITZ andrewfo0l X [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] halo3334 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ITZ andrewfo0l X [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] StealthSlasher2 Both of you need to chill. This line of discussion is irrelevant to the topic of hand anyway. Knowing if there was an Arbiter or not during the events of Halo Reach has absolutely nothing to do with proving if the one pulling an energy sword at the end of Lone Wolf is one.[/quote] Nah, it relates. How can it be Arbiter, if there was no Arbiter at the time?[/quote] Thel[/quote] He didn't have the title during Reach.[/quote] crap not Thel...Its an unamed Arbiter during Reach. [url=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Arbiter]scroll down to known Arbiters.[/url][/quote] You due realize what I said was already proven false, right? (Page 3) [Edited on 04.06.2011 11:26 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ITZ andrewfo0l X [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] halo3334 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ITZ andrewfo0l X [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] StealthSlasher2 Both of you need to chill. This line of discussion is irrelevant to the topic of hand anyway. Knowing if there was an Arbiter or not during the events of Halo Reach has absolutely nothing to do with proving if the one pulling an energy sword at the end of Lone Wolf is one.[/quote] Nah, it relates. How can it be Arbiter, if there was no Arbiter at the time?[/quote] Thel[/quote] He didn't have the title during Reach.[/quote] crap not Thel...Its an unamed Arbiter during Reach. [url=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Arbiter]scroll down to known Arbiters.[/url]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] halo3334 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ITZ andrewfo0l X [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] StealthSlasher2 Both of you need to chill. This line of discussion is irrelevant to the topic of hand anyway. Knowing if there was an Arbiter or not during the events of Halo Reach has absolutely nothing to do with proving if the one pulling an energy sword at the end of Lone Wolf is one.[/quote] Nah, it relates. How can it be Arbiter, if there was no Arbiter at the time?[/quote] Thel[/quote] He didn't have the title during Reach.
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Does it matter? I don't think its relevant to the storyline, but thats just me.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ITZ andrewfo0l X [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] StealthSlasher2 Both of you need to chill. This line of discussion is irrelevant to the topic of hand anyway. Knowing if there was an Arbiter or not during the events of Halo Reach has absolutely nothing to do with proving if the one pulling an energy sword at the end of Lone Wolf is one.[/quote] Nah, it relates. How can it be Arbiter, if there was no Arbiter at the time?[/quote] Thel
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[url]http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16229572&player=AHarmlessSpider[/url] Just wanted to show something here. If the color is too dark, please turn up your brightness. Now ask yourself this, if the arbiter's armor has always been the same (mentioned by the Prophet of Mercy in halo 2 as "ancestral armor") then how could this be the arbiter?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CMURDER1992 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ITZ andrewfo0l X [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] StealthSlasher2 Both of you need to chill. This line of discussion is irrelevant to the topic of hand anyway. Knowing if there was an Arbiter or not during the events of Halo Reach has absolutely nothing to do with proving if the one pulling an energy sword at the end of Lone Wolf is one.[/quote] Nah, it relates. How can it be Arbiter, if there was no Arbiter at the time?[/quote] I thought there were at least 100 Arbiter's before the one we know from Halo 2 and 3. Which would mean there would be one at the time the events on Reach occurred. I wish we had the cutscene from Halo 2 explaining it to the Arbiter then. [/quote] Nowhere close. The Halo 2/3 Arbitor is only the 19th I think.
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ok this is a crazy idea but stay with me ok WHO still with me ok CARES?!?!?!?!
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Actually, the Arbiter in H3 was in Reach but he's not left handed HE'S AMBIEDEXTROUS :O!! (He can use both his hands)
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If you mean Theil, He is on the Pillar of Autumn's tail when it jumped to Alpha Halo. If you mean the Arbiter Active in the Fall of Reach his boots would have been from the arbiter's armor, And its a gold one. Its just a left handed elite, Nothing special about that.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] hawke360 idk[/quote] why would i spend the time trying to find its just a bunch of useless junk any way [Edited on 04.06.2011 7:44 PM PDT]
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Everyone there had colored armor, The left handed one was gold, Maybe BOB or a general. Also being Left handed doesn't mean anything, Any elite could have been lefthanded.
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well, it wasn't the Arbiter, but MAYBE IT IS VADAM (halo 3's arbiter)
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Chillaman35 Ok, first off Im not talking about Halo 3's arbiter, Im talking about which ever one was before him.[/quote] The Arbiter in Halo 3 was a Fleet master during the Fall of Reach. So, IT CAN BE THE SAME ELITE. Especially since few Elites are left handed, and since the Elite was rather high ranked.
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There was the title of 'Arbiter' during Reach, but that doesn't mean that there HAD to be an 'Arbiter'. One 'Arbiter' doesn't have to succeed another one. In simple terms, there doesn't always have to be one.
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I just figured it out, that Elite might be a high rank in all, but it's not Thel 'Vadam, cause in Halo 2 it says he followed with all the ships in his command after the PoA escaped. So as your Spartan is about to get stabbed, the foot & sword pop up to block the scene of his/her death. Making it more dramatic. That's all it was, to make it dramatic.
