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4/4/2011 5:19:50 AM
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Is Master Chief In Love With Cortana?
Now, I know this might be a stupid question, but that's never stopped me before, so here it goes.
I was talking with my brother the other day and he mentioned something about Mater Chief being in love with Cortana. My initial response was to say, "Master Chief [i]can't[/i] be in love with Cortana...can he?"
I thought for a moment then a few things hit me.
Firstly, someone (you'll have to forgive me, I don't remember who) in the Halo 3: Limited Edition bonus 'Making Of' documentary mentions that exact thing; Master Chief and Cortana is a love story.
Secondly, Cortana posses the same emotions and feelings that all humans posses. Therefore she would be capable of feeling and/or being in love.
Thirdly, her dialogue with the Chief often seems like the kind of dialogue you would expect from two people who are in love (i.e. "Don't make a girl a promise, if you know you can't keep it").
So, I pose this question to you and ask you for your thoughts. Is it possible that this is the closest an A.I. has ever been to a human?
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I think that it's that type of relationship when you have come to depend on someone greatly. When you depend on someone day in and day out for simple survival, you tend to become close.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CTN 0452 9 ...Cortana is a program so they lack the attraction required for romantic love.[/quote]Actally, Cortana is going through rampancy and is capable of emotion. That quote is only aplicable to H1 & H2.
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NO. In Halo 4. John will come back to Earth and marry Parisa like he promised when he was a kid.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cgseif323 That's pretty much why Cortana chose him in the first place (correct me if I'm wrong.) Slight miss error there.She was going to pick kurt but master cheif show's one strenght that none of the other spartans have.Not strenght not mind strength Luck. [Edited on 04.14.2011 1:23 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DeadpoolHero27 The answer is that Chief and Halsey share a relationship. Cortana is based on Halsey's thoughts. Cortana is simply a younger Halsey that is not burdened by military protocols.[/quote] You need to see the rest of our posts. We adressed that and kinda' solved it.
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The answer is that Chief and Halsey share a relationship. Cortana is based on Halsey's thoughts. Cortana is simply a younger Halsey that is not burdened by military protocols.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NINJACAT92 in Halo 3 she looked the best,but in all truth they could be in lov3[/quote] Yes...very true!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cgseif323 Here's what I think: Cortana and Master Chief share a relationship that's hard to describe. I agree with some previous posts about how MC and Cortana love each other as brother/sister. But I think this 'love' stems from the need to trust one another; if Cortana makes a wrong calculation, the Chief is screwed, for example. Cortana loves and trusts Master Chief because he is lucky and trustworthy, as he proves time and time again in books and games. That's pretty much why Cortana chose him in the first place (correct me if I'm wrong.) And since he knows that he can trust Cortana, the Chief must protect her. I believe one of the books stated that he feels lonely (or that silence in his head didn't feel right), therefore he needs her. Also, Master Chief could possibly be the thing that is keeping Cortana out of rampancy. Think about it; all of that Halo and Forerunner data in her memory must've reduced her potential lifespan drastically. Cortana is sane when she's with John. Only my thoughts, that's all. Great question, btw :p[/quote] I really like this man. You have clearly put a lot of thought into it as I did. For the most part, I think your post could be entirely true. It would seem that Master Chief and Cortana do truly have an indescribable relationship (as has been clearly proven by this thread :] ). The one thing that I dont agree with though is the observation that if Cortana makes a wrong turn that Master Chief is screwed. To me, it's like this. Mater Chief and Cortana are both forces to be reckoned with but they both lack something; each other. I beleive they compliment each other in a very deep way and that is why they were able accomplish the amazing feats that they did. Cortana provides the data and the logic, Master Chief provides the Strength and the courage. I hope you catche my drift. By the way, thanks for the well thought out contribution, and again thanks for not derailing the thread with the classic "is it canon" argument. I appreciate the input.
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It only stands to reason that the two of them would love each other. Romantic and Platonic have been used here in this conversation, however, it would seem to be a combination of the two. At first, Cortana was introduced to John on the day of test that Col. Ackerson set up as a fail point for the SII program. BUT, Cortana already knew John from being borne of Dr. Halsey. Out of all the Spartan candidates, Dr. Halsey cared for John more than any other candidate and that showed throughout the entire series, that same feeing transfered to Cortana. I certainly wouldn't call it romantic and I wouldn't call it platonic either. It's a well known fact that brothers in arms develop a loving relationship for each other due to the close proximity of working together, watching each other backs in battle, caring for each other in times of recovery and later in life. "I love you like a brother"...there is no doubt in my mind that this is the relationship that Cortana and John share.
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Its more like an older brother/younger sister relationship IMO, except the sister is smart as hell and can solve most of your problems, provided that you can achieve inhuman feats.
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Here's what I think: Cortana and Master Chief share a relationship that's hard to describe. I agree with some previous posts about how MC and Cortana love each other as brother/sister. But I think this 'love' stems from the need to trust one another; if Cortana makes a wrong calculation, the Chief is screwed, for example. Cortana loves and trusts Master Chief because he is lucky and trustworthy, as he proves time and time again in books and games. That's pretty much why Cortana chose him in the first place (correct me if I'm wrong.) And since he knows that he can trust Cortana, the Chief must protect her. I believe one of the books stated that he feels lonely (or that silence in his head didn't feel right), therefore he needs her. Also, Master Chief could possibly be the thing that is keeping Cortana out of rampancy. Think about it; all of that Halo and Forerunner data in her memory must've reduced her potential lifespan drastically. Cortana is sane when she's with John. Only my thoughts, that's all. Great question, btw :p
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Logical Remnant Cortana likes MC because of his actions and Nobility. When I see MC going after Cortana to retrieve her from Grave Mind and the Covenant I what he would do for another spartan. No one gets left behind. The Navy takes care of it's own.[/quote] You have earned my honour I will fight for you... He is right people The noblity of MC earns cortana's system memory equivelent to LOVE Plus she has been in his mind for years.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RKOSNAKE [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SPARTAN925 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Elite assassin 1 I think it is safer to say that he loves her as much as a Spartan can really love someone. I don't think a Spartan can fall in love.[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Elite assassin 1 OMG master chief loves cortana because cortana has been in his head since practicly day one of the covanant war.MC has been with her so long she has corrupted his mind.Thats why he see's her in halo 3.He feels he needs her.In the book he descibes it when cortana is in his head as a fimilar and generally nice mecury feeling.This is why he fought for her and saved her from GRAVEMIND (FTW!!!) and that is why he will always be with her.He has grown to like,and then love her.Same as cortana. She has grown to lack her intellect she once had.for two reasons.! She has had to copy,download and then anaylize the data of halo and the fact that she has improved the slipspace drive and plasma Wepeons oh and upraged mc sheilds while ploting a course back to earth.46% of her mind life is dead because of this and all through this she keeps growing use to being in mc's mind.She and he have grown up together.by this I mean cortana is " yrs old-mc 17 all of this in the boook The first strike! They love each other and i love halo![/quote] My eyes, they burn! And you're wrong, "Smart" A.I.'s have a life Span of 7 years before they go into rampancy, if Cortana was with John from "day one" of the Human-Covenant war, she would have gone insane on 2532 seeing how the war started in 2525. Besides, she did not upgrade John's shields and as for the whole Gravemind rescue, she sent John a message saying there was a way to stop the Flood, of course he was not going to let the opportunity slip past. TL;DR Know your Halo before you go around saying things like that boy. [/quote] Noob! She does not have 7 years like us its how much her mind is occupied and burned up.She did not send cheif a msg so kid get out I hate people like you [Edited on 04.07.2011 1:06 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xXFatal v1 Now if it turns out that they are going to put her in an artificial body, I'll be speechless.[/quote] I agree man. That would be so effin' stupid.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RKOSNAKE [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nannerpus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xXFatal v1 We're not picking and choosing, that's how it is. 343i decided that, not us. Although it [i]is[/i] obvious that [i]Odd One Out[/i] is non-canon. And the combat animations in anime are [almost] always unrealistic.[/quote] Again, Halo 4 will tell. I pose this question for you. Do you [i]really[/i] think they're gonna kill Cortana? I'll tell you what, if they do, it will be a sure fire sign that the creation of 343 Industries was a bad idea and the Halo Universe will go the way of Star Trek and Star Wars before it.[/quote] Nobody said anything about killing her, Rampancy is just a state of madness which can be overcame and turned into Metastability just like Mendicant Bias did.[/quote] Again, Cortana is a very unique character, we also have to bring into account that she knows more than any A.I. ever has. The process of becoming rampant occurs when the A.I. realizes the extent of their existence and it drives them insane to know that they are essentially data miners that have no real purpose beyond that. However, Cortana has obtained all of the combined knowledge of the Humanity (Through ONI), the Covenant (Through High Charity), the Gravemind (Through Possession), and even the Forerunners (through Installation 04,04B,05, and The Ark). While at one point this may have been a problem for Cortana's sanity, she has something the other A.I. don't; Master Chief. Master Chief was her check when she first started to get "hyper" on Installation 04 and again when he saved her from the Gravemind. Master Chief is the voice of reason when Cortana begins to become restless. You see this in game when Cortana become weary of enemies and Mater Chief stays calm. I think that is why Cortana was able to go through all she did. Because the Chief was always there to keep his promises.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nannerpus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xXFatal v1 We're not picking and choosing, that's how it is. 343i decided that, not us. Although it [i]is[/i] obvious that [i]Odd One Out[/i] is non-canon. And the combat animations in anime are [almost] always unrealistic.[/quote] Again, Halo 4 will tell. I pose this question for you. Do you [i]really[/i] think they're gonna kill Cortana? I'll tell you what, if they do, it will be a sure fire sign that the creation of 343 Industries was a bad idea and the Halo Universe will go the way of Star Trek and Star Wars before it.[/quote]As I said on the first page, I don't put it past 343i to put Cortana in some kind of artificial body. I really don't. Now if it turns out that they are going to put her in an artificial body, I'll be speechless.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nannerpus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xXFatal v1 We're not picking and choosing, that's how it is. 343i decided that, not us. Although it [i]is[/i] obvious that [i]Odd One Out[/i] is non-canon. And the combat animations in anime are [almost] always unrealistic.[/quote] Again, Halo 4 will tell. I pose this question for you. Do you [i]really[/i] think they're gonna kill Cortana? I'll tell you what, if they do, it will be a sure fire sign that the creation of 343 Industries was a bad idea and the Halo Universe will go the way of Star Trek and Star Wars before it.[/quote] Nobody said anything about killing her, Rampancy is just a state of madness which can be overcame and turned into Metastability just like Mendicant Bias did.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Logical Remnant Cortana likes MC because of his actions and Nobility. When I see MC going after Cortana to retrieve her from Grave Mind and the Covenant I what he would do for another spartan. No one gets left behind. The Navy takes care of it's own.[/quote] I get that, but there is obviously a different relationship between the two of them than between Master Chief and the next Spartan. [Edited on 04.06.2011 2:16 PM PDT]
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Cortana likes MC because of his actions and Nobility. When I see MC going after Cortana to retrieve her from Grave Mind and the Covenant I what he would do for another spartan. No one gets left behind. The Navy takes care of it's own.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xXFatal v1 We're not picking and choosing, that's how it is. 343i decided that, not us. Although it [i]is[/i] obvious that [i]Odd One Out[/i] is non-canon. And the combat animations in anime are [almost] always unrealistic.[/quote] Again, Halo 4 will tell. I pose this question for you. Do you [i]really[/i] think they're gonna kill Cortana? I'll tell you what, if they do, it will be a sure fire sign that the creation of 343 Industries was a bad idea and the Halo Universe will go the way of Star Trek and Star Wars before it. [Edited on 04.06.2011 2:13 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nannerpus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RKOSNAKE No I'm not picking and choosing, it was confirmed. Odd One Out is meant to be a satirical interpretation of the Halo Universe. [/quote] So it's not unlike the rest of Halo: Legends. Well, we'll see in Halo 4.[/quote] [quote]Mid7night: Where in the gradient of Halo "cannon" will this fall? In the realm of the current-released books, or more like "published fan-fiction" ? Frankie: It's canon, like books. Except for Toei. But there IS interpretation - armor styling etc. It's art, after al.[/quote] Toei were the ones that made Odd One Out, the rest of Legends was made by other five production houses, so it is canon.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nannerpus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RKOSNAKE [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nannerpus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RKOSNAKE [quote]in the Halo Legends short film Origins, in which four years after the events of Halo 3, it is strongly suggested that Cortana is falling into rampancy. She displays several characteristics to support this, such as her hologram flickering, trying to communicate with John-117 despite him being in cryo-sleep, recounting the history of the galaxy, which gets continuously more inaccurate to the point where events being recalled simply did not happen. She even tried to make physical contact with John via her avatar.[/quote] Legends is canon btw, just saying it in case you bring the Legends =/= canon thing[/quote] Well legends also has regular people wielding tree trunks like they were twigs and using 'air blasts' to attack monsters. All in anime, by the way. So you can say it's canon all you want. But legends doesn't even make sense on a realist level.[/quote] Odd one out is the only one that is not canon out of the 7 stories.[/quote] So, now we're picking an choosing? Nope. All of it or none of it. Halo: Legends is bull-blam!-.[/quote]We're not picking and choosing, that's how it is. 343i decided that, not us. Although it [i]is[/i] obvious that [i]Odd One Out[/i] is non-canon. And the combat animations in anime are [almost] always unrealistic.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RKOSNAKE No I'm not picking and choosing, it was confirmed. Odd One Out is meant to be a satirical interpretation of the Halo Universe. [/quote] So it's not unlike the rest of Halo: Legends. Well, we'll see in Halo 4.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nannerpus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RKOSNAKE [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nannerpus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RKOSNAKE [quote]in the Halo Legends short film Origins, in which four years after the events of Halo 3, it is strongly suggested that Cortana is falling into rampancy. She displays several characteristics to support this, such as her hologram flickering, trying to communicate with John-117 despite him being in cryo-sleep, recounting the history of the galaxy, which gets continuously more inaccurate to the point where events being recalled simply did not happen. She even tried to make physical contact with John via her avatar.[/quote] Legends is canon btw, just saying it in case you bring the Legends =/= canon thing[/quote] Well legends also has regular people wielding tree trunks like they were twigs and using 'air blasts' to attack monsters. All in anime, by the way. So you can say it's canon all you want. But legends doesn't even make sense on a realist level.[/quote] Odd one out is the only one that is not canon out of the 7 stories.[/quote] So, now we're picking an choosing? Nope. All of it or none of it. Halo: Legends is bull-blam!-.[/quote] No I'm not picking and choosing, it was confirmed. Odd One Out is meant to be a satirical interpretation of the Halo Universe.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RKOSNAKE [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nannerpus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RKOSNAKE [quote]in the Halo Legends short film Origins, in which four years after the events of Halo 3, it is strongly suggested that Cortana is falling into rampancy. She displays several characteristics to support this, such as her hologram flickering, trying to communicate with John-117 despite him being in cryo-sleep, recounting the history of the galaxy, which gets continuously more inaccurate to the point where events being recalled simply did not happen. She even tried to make physical contact with John via her avatar.[/quote] Legends is canon btw, just saying it in case you bring the Legends =/= canon thing[/quote] Well legends also has regular people wielding tree trunks like they were twigs and using 'air blasts' to attack monsters. All in anime, by the way. So you can say it's canon all you want. But legends doesn't even make sense on a realist level.[/quote] Odd one out is the only one that is not canon out of the 7 stories.[/quote] So, now we're picking an choosing? Nope. All of it or none of it. Halo: Legends is bull-blam!-.
