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5/23/2006 12:36:10 AM
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The Bungie Waaahmbulance

Going through the Bungie mailbox can be wonderful - we get tons of great feedback, opinion and suggestions from a loyal audience who we love and appreciate. They ask good questions, make valid points and submit thoughtful and reasoned criticism. But we also get mails from folks who've been banned for cheating, modding, standby-ing boosting, bridging, and other forms of network interference, all bannable under the terms of use of Xbox Live which you can read about [url=http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/legal/]here[/url]. Now, the thing is, everyone who ever cheated, probably knew they were cheating. Some of the tortured language we get explaining that they didn't [i]realize[/i] they were cheating is hilarious. [Edited on 5/22/2006]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Treacherist Keep the bans coming! i love the satisfaction that I get when i find out some one has been banned. I think of the endless times when players of lesser skill have modded,standby and bridged to victory against me and i can almost see their little whiny little, tear streaked faces, typing up desperate and mis-spelled pleas for mercy! But the mercy that was quick in us of late, is by their own works suppressed and killed. Get you therefore, poor miserable cheaters to your death. HA HA HAA HA AAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH(endless maniacal laughter) Treacherist[/quote] well i don't like it that mutch i got banned and i don't know the reason i can say that i'm not modding and i'm playing on 360 and don't even know if that is possible but then i get the response that the feedback system and the way they bann ppl around here is flawless and they wont tell me any reason or what so ever

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  • Keep the bans coming! i love the satisfaction that I get when i find out some one has been banned. I think of the endless times when players of lesser skill have modded,standby and bridged to victory against me and i can almost see their little whiny little, tear streaked faces, typing up desperate and mis-spelled pleas for mercy! But the mercy that was quick in us of late, is by their own works suppressed and killed. Get you therefore, poor miserable cheaters to your death. HA HA HAA HA AAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH(endless maniacal laughter) Treacherist

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  • yeah i agree with the Detached_shadow guy...except for the first part he is like possesed...Thank you for banning the stupid modders....and the whole -blam!- scenario was funny...In fact if you modded why would you want your account back....if you mod you obviously suck at halo and cant win on your own...so if you get your account back but dont mod you wont even want to play cause you suck...but anyway thanks for your help and support

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  • I dont get it. Why did they all write in? What happens when you get caught modding?

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  • What boggles my mind is that these kids (or worse... adults!!) are the future of our country... yikes.. Are they American kids? Or kids that just got off the boat? I know turtles that can spell better and formulate a thought better then any of those idiots. Keep banning please.. I've seen crazy and un-thought of things in halo2 matchmaking games and reported them to the banhammer people.. it's just not fair to the straight players if one jerk can run faster or hover anywhere on the level or shoot rockets out of a sniper rifle with infinite ammo. I'm a software developer myself, so I could easily mod the crap out of any game I wanted with some reasearch.. but I wouldn't want to.. the people that do are compensating for something they don't and won't ever have. Just cause you aren't as good as a legit player at it doesn't mean you have to cheat.. practice like the rest of us. One other thing.. GO DETROIT PISTONS!!! GO DETROIT TIGERS!!! wooooooooooooooooo!!!!

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  • Well for one i just want to say "BUNGIE I LOVE YOU AND I WANT TO PUT BABIES IN YOU!!!" Ok now that thats out of the way i thank you guys for cleaning the trash out of the system, i have not been modded or stanbyed(sp) ever sence you guys started doin what you do best. well my teacher is yellin at me so i should probably get off the computer and go back to class

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  • You have no idea how many times I still get cheated. Try playing DT 1/2 the games you get cheated.

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  • It's hilarious that when an admin or mod makes a post like this, half of the responses are deperate attempts to suck up to them. People even sometimes resort to grammar to impress Frankie! If you want to be a mod [i]so[/i] badly, become a theme master. "This was yet another great update. Those letters were hilarious!"

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  • I really can not understand some people's mentality. I think Bungie is doing an amazing job of brining the Banhammer down on pathetic, un-skilled idiots that believe they are above evryone else because they can cheat. My point is, remember guys, Bungie has to waste hours of time, money and resources that could easily be spent on another project. This is why i feel that all cheaters are laim and selfish. So next time any of you wish to complain, just think to yourself, if i did not cheat then i might be playing Halo 3 now, and another Bungie project could be underway to further entertain us. I RokiN I aka NiK0R0KiN

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  • Are the people who were banned in h2 gonna be banned in h3? I think it would be kinda annoying if they werent.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Recon Number 54 Intent or purpose is irrelevant. If you are using tools to give yourself an experience that is different than the one that another player would experience when they use the system as designed, then you are violating the ToU and are subject to the penalties outlined in the membership agreement...........[/quote] i do not bridge, nor know how to, but i have to say that to bridge host for the sake of saving yourself from cheaters is in no way changing the expirience of the other player. Host is for the most part chosen at random(teamwise). to have host everytime can ensure that you don't get cheated. when i play custom games, usually the same person has host everytime based on connection speed. IT DOESN'T ever bother us, nor do we ever complain to each other. When you are in a legitimate game, host doesn't matter. And if the cheaters are out there waiting 30 minutes at a time to get 1 box host, then i feel we have taken a step forward in limiting the advantages of cheating. like i said in my earlier post, i have played maybe 4 games in which the friend used that bridge trick, and it's not often that i can get 4, legitimate, and well played games in a row once you get into the low to high 30 range. I did not win every one of the four games, proving that there is no difference in gaming experience when their team or my team has host. People sometimes tell me that host has a split second advantage, but i would like to see two teams go into a game, without knowing who has host, and try to figure out who does. It probably won't happen. I'm not complaining about bungies policy, and how you can get banned for bridging to avoid cheating, but I want to point out that it can be effective, and entirely fair. There is no disadvantage to the other team and i feel it could be a good temporary solution that us gamers can do to be able to enjoy our gaming experience until you guys find a solid solution. please give me some feedback on this, -Thanks- [Edited on 5/25/2006]

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  • OMFG THAT IS HILLARIOUS! i love that you posted those, because it really brightens my day, considering that i ran into 2 modder teams just today. I wouldn't mind seeing those posted more often. I have a question though, a couple days ago, i was playing matchmaking, and my team won, so we partied up. one of the guys on our team bridged for host everytime.we played about four games. he did not bridge in the common cheating way, but he would use it to get host so we wouldn't get cheated. Is this cheating? I know it sounds a little cliched, the whole "i have a friend" thing, but this is not a lie, my friend does do this, but he is entirely legit ( only lvl 29 ). So if someone could tell me if it is a bannable offense, it would be helpful. because if it isn't, then this could be a fun personal way for us to fight back agains those cheating schmucks. ps, if bungie really wants to get some modders, it's really just anyone over level 40, with the far and few between 30 and 40 : ) nvm, i just read the post 3rd from top of this page, but oh well, i'll leave this as is.. [Edited on 5/25/2006]

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  • I think we should hold some sort of contest of who can write the best cheater impressionation letter. see how creative one can get coming up with horrible excuses

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  • I really like the letter entitled "Bantha" it was very funny how they misspelled banned three times in a row. And for the 13 year old kid, the game is rated "M" for MATURE. Drop some balls, then buy the game and play legit.

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  • I heard a rumor today on XBOX Live that any lvl 50 accounts were being deleted... The guy said that Bungie knows that you had to cheat to get to a high lvl like that... Personally I think that is bull-blam!-, but has anyone else heard different...

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  • Someone that works for Bungie, is it better to stay in a game that you are getting moded or is it better to quit that game? Because i've been told that if you stay in the game it is easier for you guys to see that they are cheating. Please tell me!

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  • Good job Bungie, you weed out those filthy cheaters. They ruin the entire Matchmaking experience. It's nice to hear those dirty whiners get what's coming to them. Death to the cheaters.

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  • i think all you guys suck!!! [Edited on 5/25/2006]

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  • yeah well im a cheater and i hope i meet you someday so i can fricken pwn yur ass with my great mods!!!!!!! -blam!- YOU

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  • Hey Bungie, I appreciate you posting those emails. Funny stuff! However, in the last week I've been modded/stand-by'd more than ever. I want to believe you guys are doing something about it but it happens so much I can't see stopping it. Maybe H3 will solve it, but where will that leave all the guys still on the old xbox. Just my thoughts...

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  • that was soo hilarious, do it again!

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  • Man I want a job in the "banned email dept" my job would make me laugh everyday and thats a wonderful thing lol...

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  • Wow...I just would like to say to that one "Saga Sender" Yeah if you want to know why you got caught...Picture this...if you said [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] -blam!- well even if i did bridge on –blam!- that didn't give you guys the right to ban –blam!- or –blam!-. Whether you guys think i did or didn't, i know that –blam!- was legit and i had never had mods on my xbox, regardless of what your f'ed up programs say. And as for –blam!-, if you want to ask my friends if I yelled and screamed after every single game then you ask them because i figure it is bull-blam!- that you and xbox live can ban me for something without warning. I was never warned for either account. And plus even if i did do threats or harassment you said it yourself that only one or two things won't get you banned, well then what if the same person complained to you or xbox live more than once for the same threat. What if I had gotten banned for that, do you call that unfair? I am pretty sure that after I had just beaten some kids real bad in a game they just decided to leave some bull-blam!- message and try to get me banned. You can ask my friends, i don't threaten..[/quote] On the...2nd line he says,"Whether you guys think i did or didn't, i know that –blam!- was legit and i had never had mods on my xbox." You said 3 accounts were cought and says only 1 was supposedly legit...so that would technically be admitting that you cheated on 2 accounts and that your 'legit' account was most likely the one banned for Threats & Harassment. So yeah...if you don't want to be caught...don't do it, and a suggestion to Bungie(if you can do this): You should find tell Xbox Live to disable the use of -cheater's name here- their credit card and other information in which they could activate another account.

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  • Hey Guys as a 35 yr old man who loves to play x-box live in what little spare time that I have. It is great to see that Cheaters really are being punnished!! Although, within their abundance, I would like to see more of them caught, pushised and BANNED. The overall abundance of cheating that accours within match-making is the exact reason that myself and the CLAN of KICKN YOUR AZZ play more of our own MASTERFULLY created custom games. THIS to avoid the massive frustrations that MODDERS AND CHEATERS create!! We the CLAN of KICKN YOUR AZZ are more about enjoying the company of each other, and having fun. AS we have most of the greatest guys ever collected from halo 2 within our CLAN!!! HANDS DOWN!! IF YOUR TIRED OF MODDERS AND WANT ENJOY SOME FUN CUSTOM GAMMING PLEASE CHECK US OUT LOOK ME UP ONLINE!! MAYBE YOU TO CAN BE APART OF A GREAT CLAN-- SPACES LIMITED!!! OVER 80 CURRENT MEMBERS!! (mixture of young and old players alike) NO CUSSING OR DISRESPECT TOLERATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (SIGNED) THE RUTHLESS 1 (CLAN OVER LORD of KICKN YOUR AZZ)

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  • Ok Just a Message If Your Gonna Cheat You Know The Consequences And If You Cant Handle That Without Callin Bungie Out Thats Childish www.ehi.cx.la

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  • do it by MAC address would be better that way if you move into a house or apartment of someone who got banned you would have no problem. But MAC banning would also result in problems of xbox consoles sold to others. there really is no good way other than banning the accounts.

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