[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Couchmasta [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bernard I think I might only say I prefer FMJ because I'm a huge fan of Kubrick's motivated and deliberate style. They're both exceptionally well made films, no doubt.[/quote]Which calls back to the saying that you can prefer one poet's style over the other but you can't necessarily judge the poem.[/quote]In the expansive world of cinema, you can very well enjoy a directorial style over another but still analyze each film just the same, take all of their elements into consideration just the same, and come to a defined conclusion after doing so. It isn't a question of bias for a certain director or style, though it might seem as such. I love Kubrick's deliberate and progressive filming techniques, and in this respect, it makes FMJ all the more richer in terms of artistic merit and pacing structure. I find these two elements in FMJ to be of superior quality than the same elements in SPR, and Kubrick is to thank for that in large part.

It made me hungry, so there is that, but I did like it.

It's my favorite movie. It's honestly better than.. Just watch it. You'll like it.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bernard I think I might only say I prefer FMJ because I'm a huge fan of Kubrick's motivated and deliberate style. They're both exceptionally well made films, no doubt.[/quote]Which calls back to the saying that you can prefer one poet's style over the other but you can't necessarily judge the poem.

It is as worth to watch as any other movie, if not more.

Yes.

Such an awesome movie. Definitely watch it right now. DO IT!

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jaz Millennium [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bernard [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tibetz [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bernard Of course. It's a great movie. But there are better war films you should also check out, like Apocalypse Now, Come and See, and Full Metal Jacket. Platoon is also great. [/quote] I wouldn't say Full Metal Jacket is better than Saving Private Ryan as a war film. The only truly memorable part is during boot camp, the rest is weak in comparison.[/quote]I disagree, but many film buffs would say the same and criticize the second half as significantly weaker than the former half in boot camp. Personally, I thought the entire film was very well made and provoked, or at least attempted to and did for me, a number of feelings from its audience. The first half alone wouldn't do the entire premise of the movie itself justice, as it not only meditates on the harshness of boot camp and the mental degradation of the human spirit when undergoing such hostility, but also the mental torment experienced when confronted in a real life, unstaged operation, where physical conflict surrounds one, and how it can get to the best of even the most well trained men. Also, the entire sniper sequence is something of a critique of modern Hollywood films and their pro-war themes and messages, and is probably the most memorable series of events in the film for me, especially when Joker confronts the enemy sniper and kills her. Ultimately, what separates this film with others might very well be its first half, but the second half is what gives the film its context, gives it purpose, and ultimately what brings it full circle.[/quote] You know I was gonna say you are wrong but after you detailed you're feelings on it I must say I can understand and respect you're opinion. While I do believe the Boot camp part was the only good part I do think that they were truly going for a depressing feeling on the second half seeing as it was a lost/unpopular war. Saving Private Ryan is also sad (I tear up everytime I watch the ending) but I do think that SPR and FMJ go for different feelings (if that makes any sense.) I will say I like SPR better tho.[/quote]There's no problem in enjoying one film over the other. All we can really speculate is the true meanings of either film and their content's purpose. FMJ's second half is definitely a dramatic shift in tone compared with its first half, and while the overall themes of both SPR and FMJ are very similar, and while they both meditate, simply, on the brutality of war and the human condition in the face of adversity, they do have different tones and styles. I think I might only say I prefer FMJ because I'm a huge fan of Kubrick's motivated and deliberate style. They're both exceptionally well made films, no doubt.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] solidsnakemgs45 YES[/quote]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pira7eHun7er [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xX Pur3RuSh Xx [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pira7eHun7er yeah, though there is this cheesy part where they blow up a tank with a handgun...[/quote]It was a plane.[/quote] *facepalm* Really?[/quote]*facepalm* Yes. Did the planes that flew by firing at the tank seem too stupid compared to him taking it down with his pistol?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Couchmasta Valid point. Personally I just wouldn't compare them namely because the Vietnam War put soldiers in an entirely different situation than WWII. You can also say that for the United State's Revolutionary War and the War in Iraq. That's just me though.[/quote]Fair enough. Movies in general are all relative anyway. Analyzing and critique in cinema, like in most other mediums, are very much subjective.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bernard [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tibetz [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bernard Of course. It's a great movie. But there are better war films you should also check out, like Apocalypse Now, Come and See, and Full Metal Jacket. Platoon is also great. [/quote] I wouldn't say Full Metal Jacket is better than Saving Private Ryan as a war film. The only truly memorable part is during boot camp, the rest is weak in comparison.[/quote]I disagree, but many film buffs would say the same and criticize the second half as significantly weaker than the former half in boot camp. Personally, I thought the entire film was very well made and provoked, or at least attempted to and did for me, a number of feelings from its audience. The first half alone wouldn't do the entire premise of the movie itself justice, as it not only meditates on the harshness of boot camp and the mental degradation of the human spirit when undergoing such hostility, but also the mental torment experienced when confronted in a real life, unstaged operation, where physical conflict surrounds one, and how it can get to the best of even the most well trained men. Also, the entire sniper sequence is something of a critique of modern Hollywood films and their pro-war themes and messages, and is probably the most memorable series of events in the film for me, especially when Joker confronts the enemy sniper and kills her. Ultimately, what separates this film with others might very well be its first half, but the second half is what gives the film its context, gives it purpose, and ultimately what brings it full circle.[/quote] You know I was gonna say you are wrong but after you detailed you're feelings on it I must say I can understand and respect you're opinion. While I do believe the Boot camp part was the only good part I do think that they were truly going for a depressing feeling on the second half seeing as it was a lost/unpopular war. Saving Private Ryan is also sad (I tear up everytime I watch the ending) but I do think that SPR and FMJ go for different feelings (if that makes any sense.) I will say I like SPR better tho.

Most definitely, got me quite interested in WWII as a kid

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bernard [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tibetz [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bernard Of course. It's a great movie. But there are better war films you should also check out, like Apocalypse Now, Come and See, and Full Metal Jacket. Platoon is also great. [/quote] I wouldn't say Full Metal Jacket is better than Saving Private Ryan as a war film. The only truly memorable part is during boot camp, the rest is weak in comparison.[/quote]I disagree, but many film buffs would say the same and criticize the second half as significantly weaker than the former half in boot camp. Personally, I thought the entire film was very well made and provoked, or at least attempted to and did for me, a number of feelings from its audience. The first half alone wouldn't do the entire premise of the movie itself justice, as it not only meditates on the harshness of boot camp and the mental degradation of the human spirit when undergoing such hostility, but also the mental torment experienced when confronted in a real life, unstaged operation, where physical conflict surrounds one, and how it can get to the best of even the most well trained men. Also, the entire sniper sequence is something of a critique of modern Hollywood films and their pro-war themes and messages, and is probably the most memorable series of events in the film for me, especially when Joker confronts the enemy sniper and kills her. Ultimately, what separates this film with others might very well be its first half, but the second half is what gives the film its context, gives it purpose, and ultimately what brings it full circle.[/quote] I do agree that it's message is what ultimately drives the film, and that the second half is equally strong if not superior to the first half in that respect. However, my complaint is that outside of a deeper analysis, the second half of the film has very little (pretty much just Adam Baldwin) to keep me watching. [Edited on 02.26.2011 5:38 PM PST]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bernard [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Couchmasta [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bernard [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Couchmasta [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bernard Of course. It's a great movie. But there are better war films you should also check out, like Apocalypse Now, Come and See, and Full Metal Jacket. Platoon is also great. [/quote]Nam' Movies and WWII movies are two entirely different subgenres...[/quote]And then there's war movies as a whole. What are you trying to say? One can't prefer a movie over another if they're in different genres? [/quote]I'm just saying I wouldn't really compare them.[/quote]I disagree, I think it is perfectly reasonable for someone to draw the comparisons between multiple films of the same genre with one another. It is entirely different, saying Saving Private Ryan is a better movie than The Hangover, and saying that Saving Private Ryan is a better movie than We Were Soldiers. [/quote]Valid point. Personally I just wouldn't compare them namely because the Vietnam War put soldiers in an entirely different situation than WWII. You can also say that for the United State's Revolutionary War and the War in Iraq. That's just me though.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xX Pur3RuSh Xx [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pira7eHun7er yeah, though there is this cheesy part where they blow up a tank with a handgun...[/quote]It was a plane.[/quote] *facepalm* Really?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tibetz [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bernard Of course. It's a great movie. But there are better war films you should also check out, like Apocalypse Now, Come and See, and Full Metal Jacket. Platoon is also great. [/quote] I wouldn't say Full Metal Jacket is better than Saving Private Ryan as a war film. The only truly memorable part is during boot camp, the rest is weak in comparison.[/quote]I disagree, but many film buffs would say the same and criticize the second half as significantly weaker than the former half in boot camp. Personally, I thought the entire film was very well made and provoked, or at least attempted to and did for me, a number of feelings from its audience. The first half alone wouldn't do the entire premise of the movie itself justice, as it not only meditates on the harshness of boot camp and the mental degradation of the human spirit when undergoing such hostility, but also the mental torment experienced when confronted in a real life, unstaged operation, where physical conflict surrounds one, and how it can get to the best of even the most well trained men. Also, the entire sniper sequence is something of a critique of modern Hollywood films and their pro-war themes and messages, and is probably the most memorable series of events in the film for me, especially when Joker confronts the enemy sniper and kills her. Ultimately, what separates this film with others might very well be its first half, but the second half is what gives the film its context, gives it purpose, and ultimately what brings it full circle. [Edited on 02.26.2011 5:32 PM PST]

YES. You will not regret it! One of my favorite movies of all time. However be sure you have time, it's really long.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bernard Of course. It's a great movie. But there are better war films you should also check out, like Apocalypse Now, Come and See, and Full Metal Jacket. Platoon is also great. [/quote] I wouldn't say Full Metal Jacket is better than Saving Private Ryan as a war film. The only truly memorable part is during boot camp, the rest is weak in comparison.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Couchmasta [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bernard [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Couchmasta [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bernard Of course. It's a great movie. But there are better war films you should also check out, like Apocalypse Now, Come and See, and Full Metal Jacket. Platoon is also great. [/quote]Nam' Movies and WWII movies are two entirely different subgenres...[/quote]And then there's war movies as a whole. What are you trying to say? One can't prefer a movie over another if they're in different genres? [/quote]I'm just saying I wouldn't really compare them.[/quote]I disagree, I think it is perfectly reasonable for someone to draw the comparisons between multiple films of the same genre with one another. It is entirely different, saying Saving Private Ryan is a better movie than The Hangover, and saying that Saving Private Ryan is a better movie than We Were Soldiers.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bernard [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Couchmasta [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bernard Of course. It's a great movie. But there are better war films you should also check out, like Apocalypse Now, Come and See, and Full Metal Jacket. Platoon is also great. [/quote]Nam' Movies and WWII movies are two entirely different subgenres...[/quote]And then there's war movies as a whole. What are you trying to say? One can't prefer a movie over another if they're in different genres? [/quote]I'm just saying I wouldn't really compare them.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Couchmasta [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bernard Of course. It's a great movie. But there are better war films you should also check out, like Apocalypse Now, Come and See, and Full Metal Jacket. Platoon is also great. [/quote]Nam' Movies and WWII movies are two entirely different subgenres...[/quote]And then there's war movies as a whole. What are you trying to say? One can't prefer a movie over another if they're in different genres?

Yes! It's a kick ass film, especially the storming the Omaha beach scene.

It's a pretty good movie. I would say it's worth watching.

I prefer Shaving Ryan's Privates but the other movie is good too.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pira7eHun7er yeah, though there is this cheesy part where they blow up a tank with a handgun...[/quote] Most idiotic thing I've read all day. How old were you when you watched it, 3?