it makes sense tht weapons most effective against a species would be used by tht species... because originally isnt it likely tht the species fought among itself for example, human weapons would be most effective against humans because they were designed to kill humans... killing another species would be its secondary function

in the book they are saying that the prophet is marveling at the brute (previously summoned by the prophet that had just entered the room to report for duty) and so when the third person narrator says "its" (not "it's" by the way because that word is reserved only for the conjugation "it is") it refers to the brute by the by... i kno that this reply is filled with repetitive redundencies

Agreed, its like the plasma rifles with elites, there excallent at dealing with the elite shields and yet its their primary weapon

interesting stuff...thanky kindly frankie. hmm...i wonder if it'd be possible to turn the hunters against the covies? THAT'D be a trip...

Most of the stuff in the article was old but some of it was interesting. I wonder of we are going to see a new forrunner species or something. That would be pretty cool if there on our side.

wont let me edit for some strange reason but i also wanted to add there apparently will be a new covenant sniper rifle prolly involving some time up plasma bolt and the grunts happy with their lot? the grunts in the flood seemed not to like it too much

ive always wondered myself why if hunters are supposed to be so strong why would they have a weak spot tht took 1 shot to take them out?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] i kan reed [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dominus Pilus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bri_guy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dominus Pilus I don't think that there will be Flood Versions of Hunters and Elites in Halo2, why you say? Because Halo doesn't exist anymore, and implementing the flood after we all kicked their asses all to easily in the first game, would be kinda pointless.[/quote] There are multiple Halos. the one you destroyed would only destroy all sentient life in a 25 (right #?) million mile radius. Also, I recall somewhere reading that another Halo will come into play in Halo 2[/quote] I know that there are multiple ring planets in the Halo Series. But, to say that the Forerunners contained the flood in other ring worlds too, is an insult to their intelligence. They contained the flood on the original Halo, if they really wanted to contain those -blam!-es, they wouldn't be putting them elsewhere, now would they?[/quote] [quote][b]said by 343 guilty spark[/b](yes, the monitor) this is instalation zero four[/quote] it wasn't the original station, it was the fourth. think, man![/quote] Not only did I know this, but when I said the original Halo, I was talking about the game. As in the first Halo you encounter. But that is totally irrelevant to my point. The Forerunners would not put the Flood on multiple planets. That is just plain stupidity to think that they would. If the flood still exist in Halo2, I will be extremely dissapointed. I already kicked their ass in the first game, why do it in the second?

This is just another theory and I'm not saying it's true, but here it goes. What if the Prophets knew we were the Forerunners, and the rest of the Covenant didn't? What if we were enemies of the Prophets in ancient times, dating back hundreds of thousands of years ago? That would explain why the Prophets return in order to defeat their ancient enemies before they regain their knowledge and wisdom? What if somehow our eyes are opened and we realize that we are the Forerunner species, and we gain all of our past technologies and posessions? Just some speculation for you. Also in reply to someone that made a comment about the return of the Flood being stupid, well then buddy, you are in for what hell of a surprise because Jason Jones has already confirmed their return.

[quote] http://bungie.net/images/Games/Halo/Gallery/PreXbox/pcgamer_3.jpg there is no way in hell that the floating thing is an engineer. if you look at the build of all the covenant races they all have 4 limbs and dont float (with out help e.g the prophet's chair). the floating 'Thing' is probably pre halo release flood or something. [/quote] Of course thats the engineer. In Fall of Reach you see one and it describes it as a floating purple slug with tentacles. There you go.

Anyone notice something? I did. The Prophets are looking for Foreeunner technologies, right? That seems to be thier only and main ambition. Why then would they go out of their way to send a whole armada to attack Earth, when they know the humans are only a minor threat, especially after they destroyed Reach. I think its because they are looking for something. They are looking for Forerunner tech on Earth. Remember when 343GS called the Chief "reclaimer", thinking he was a forerunner? Well, what if the humans are the descendants of the forerunner, and Earth is like their homeworld or something. Damnit I'm good.

http://bungie.net/images/Games/Halo/Gallery/PreXbox/pcgamer_3.jpg there is no way in hell that the floating thing is an engineer. if you look at the build of all the covenant races they all have 4 limbs and dont float (with out help e.g the prophet's chair). the floating 'Thing' is probably pre halo release flood or something.

why does 343 guilty spark speak a human language

If all you guys read what GS343 said in the 2nd Halo book when they are in the library, and they find the dead human, GS343 says something like "His skin was even less suited than yours, Reclaimer, his was only a Class 1". This is after GS343 tells the MC that his armour is only Class 2, and he should have at least class 12 or something like that. How could GS343 have known so much unless the Forerunners were in fact human? I don't think Bungie has hidden this secret very well at all as it is WAY too obvious and predictable. Still, I can't wait for this to be incorporated in a Halo game somehow - imagine leading a squad of Hunters into battle!

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] halowolf [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] halowolf 2. GS-343 calls the MC the redeemer when they first meet, and the task of retrieving the library index falls to the MC, also GS-343 tells MC that the task of activating the Halo defense system must be performed by him, and not a mere construct like itself. [/quote] "Bless this mess", currently i don't have permission to edit my own posts, so I have to quote myself to correct myself. I'm pretty sure that GS-343 actually called MC the reclaimer not redeemer (eck!) so replace reclaimer with redeemer in my previous post. Also the fact the GS-343 calls MC the reclaimer implies descendancy from the Forerunners of old.[/quote] Oh I've thought about another reason! 8. When Cortana prevents MC from activating Halo and GS-343 is forced to explain what was about to happen, he assumed that the MC would know what was about to happen, the implication being that MC was assumed to be a Forerunner, or at least a close descendant.

heh, pretty kool frankie, but i knew most of the stuff. great jackal pic by the way, and its holdin a needler. that'll b kinda scary. do u have a bigger pic of the jackal? looks pretty d*mn good if u ask me. thanx for another greta update, and yea dont u get in trouble for leakin out all this info?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] halowolf 2. GS-343 calls the MC the redeemer when they first meet, and the task of retrieving the library index falls to the MC, also GS-343 tells MC that the task of activating the Halo defense system must be performed by him, and not a mere construct like itself. [/quote] "Bless this mess", currently i don't have permission to edit my own posts, so I have to quote myself to correct myself. I'm pretty sure that GS-343 actually called MC the reclaimer not redeemer (eck!) so replace reclaimer with redeemer in my previous post. Also the fact the GS-343 calls MC the reclaimer implies descendancy from the Forerunners of old.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dominus Pilus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bri_guy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dominus Pilus I don't think that there will be Flood Versions of Hunters and Elites in Halo2, why you say? Because Halo doesn't exist anymore, and implementing the flood after we all kicked their asses all to easily in the first game, would be kinda pointless.[/quote] There are multiple Halos. the one you destroyed would only destroy all sentient life in a 25 (right #?) million mile radius. Also, I recall somewhere reading that another Halo will come into play in Halo 2[/quote] I know that there are multiple ring planets in the Halo Series. But, to say that the Forerunners contained the flood in other ring worlds too, is an insult to their intelligence. They contained the flood on the original Halo, if they really wanted to contain those -blam!-es, they wouldn't be putting them elsewhere, now would they?[/quote] [quote][b]said by 343 guilty spark[/b](yes, the monitor) this is instalation zero four[/quote] it wasn't the original station, it was the fourth. think, man!

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bri_guy There are multiple Halos. the one you destroyed would only destroy all sentient life in a 25 (right #?) million mile radius. Also, I recall somewhere reading that another Halo will come into play in Halo 2[/quote] Nope a 25 million mile radius is a very short distance in the galactic scale that the Halo systems worked under. A single Halo installation wouldn't be able to cleanse an entire Solar system at that attack range, meaning that there would have to be a HUGE amount of Halos about to do the deed across the galaxy. From memory it was stated that they had a 10,000 light year attack range (presumably the attack would be spherical with a 10,000 light year radius, or perhaps a 10,000 light year diameter). I forget if any geometry was mentioned. Even at 10,000 light years, there are still a large amount of Halos about... and GS-343 has a very long trip to complete the activation task unless the Forerunners have kept some short cuts about... I don't suppose anyone has played Halo recently that can confirm the attack range?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bri_guy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] halowolf And in Halo itself and the books there are more than enough clues that the Forerunners are actually an ancient Human civilisation[/quote] I've heard about this idea before, but could you (or anyone else, for that matter) clarify? I've heard some of the arguments and I'm not saying their wrong, but...yeah. Oh, I have read all 3 Halo books, so you could point our references too[/quote] One thing that i must clarify, or not as it is, is that there are only a copious amount of clues that the Forerunners are an ancient Human civilisation. Nowhere has it yet been said that Humans actually are descended from the Forerunners. Just lots of hints from GS343, reaction of Forerunner technology to humans, etc etc.. Now as for references to the clues as to why Humans are descended from the Forerunners could be a whole new thread, but I will kick off the ones that I remembers from memory... I would have to play Halo again and re-read all 3 books to get every one of them! Clues: 1. Master Chief has an instrinsic knowledge on how to operate Forerunner technology (open doors, activate light bridges, de-activating silent cartographer security, activating silent cartographer, etc etc) 2. GS-343 calls the MC the redeemer when they first meet, and the task of retrieving the library index falls to the MC, also GS-343 tells MC that the task of activating the Halo defense system must be performed by him, and not a mere construct like itself. 2a. This is a big assumption on my part, but perhaps GS-343 assumed that a Forerunner would return to activate the Halo defense system since the Flood was released. And perhaps it was why he was so upset when MC didn't perform his duty. 3. GS-343 mentions another race that was improperly trying to gain access to Halo systems. It strongly implies that GS is talking about the Covenant and not the Humans that are also present and attempting to gain access to Halo systems. 4. GS-343 wonders why MC wants to destroy the Pillar of Autumn when it contains the Human history archives, or the missing part of history (presumably Forerunner history from what GS-343 knows of the Forerunners from the past to the present time. (I forget exactly what he says, but it implies [but not states] that human history is part of the missing Forerunner history). 5. In Fall of Reach, when MC is deployed to a world that the Covenenant has invaded he retrieves a Forerunner artifact that is actually a slipspace map to the location of the Halo installation that later Cortana uses to get the Pillar of Autumn to [and thus the game begins]. I can't remember exactly what happens from memory but I faintly recall that MC knew that the artifact had more importance than merely the fact that the Covenants wanted it. 6. In First Strike, Spartan Fred was able to open the DNA lock on a Forerunner installation with his blood, and was drawn to the correct way on how to open the door. Fred also found the symbols at the door to be incredibly familiar. Do Forerunners posses a genetic memory? Thats all I remember from memory at the moment, but I'm sure that there are more to find! Perhaps I might be compelled to do some more research, or even start a thread :)

good point good point. but maybe the forunners were idiots

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bri_guy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dominus Pilus I don't think that there will be Flood Versions of Hunters and Elites in Halo2, why you say? Because Halo doesn't exist anymore, and implementing the flood after we all kicked their asses all to easily in the first game, would be kinda pointless.[/quote] There are multiple Halos. the one you destroyed would only destroy all sentient life in a 25 (right #?) million mile radius. Also, I recall somewhere reading that another Halo will come into play in Halo 2[/quote] I know that there are multiple ring planets in the Halo Series. But, to say that the Forerunners contained the flood in other ring worlds too, is an insult to their intelligence. They contained the flood on the original Halo, if they really wanted to contain those -blam!-es, they wouldn't be putting them elsewhere, now would they?

ive checkec out your "chapter", but what is it really?