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12/30/2010 7:18:52 AM
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Why is Cortana so vital to the safety of humanity?
Not to add to the whining about the story line, but what exactly was so important about Cortana that most of Noble team died for? The fact that she carried forerunner data? At what time in the game or any book was this supposedly vital information utilized?
Please fill me in.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] amazingostriche [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=54724150#54724150](post)[/url] No...pretty sure they killed themselves.... The Precursors fled, the forerunners didn't. If I'm correct (which isn't exactly likely) a few hid inside shield worlds or even on the arc which led to humanity (I think)[/quote]IIRC the H3 Terminals stated that the Forerunner were forced to activate the Halos from outside the Ark before going to the Shield Worlds, to prevent the Flood from breaking through a defensive perimeter and reaching the Ark. This happened because the traitorous Forerunner AI, Mendicant Bias, led the Gravemind to said defensive perimeter. For some reason, I think that Didact -- the Forerunner who is implied to have activated the Halos -- performed this activation at Installation 04.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Matu Flp Krawfe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] amazingostriche Once more. Why did all of Noble team have to die. That amazing superpowerful Forerunner technology DID NOTHING.[/quote] Well, except fall apart when a cruiser was detonated on it. But accidentally releasing the flood and having to resort to the mother of all plan B's was all part of the plan, you see. As for Noble team, they died because they were being led by the same people who made the aforementioned plan. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sarge sammy1997 So no they didn't kill them selves, they fled the Galaxy for another. [/quote] Well, not necessarily. The ark was beyond the rim of the milky way, but there's so many greater orders of magnitudes distance between that and even the nearest galaxy that it would probably make a lot more sense just to hang out at a few dissociated stars and wait for the flood to burn itself out than to make an inter-galactic journey (there and back) for the same effect.[/quote] Well........................ "The world may never know."
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So... Reach your first time playing Halo or something?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] amazingostriche No...pretty sure they killed themselves.... The Precursors fled, the forerunners didn't. If I'm correct (which isn't exactly likely) a few hid inside shield worlds or even on the arc which led to humanity (I think)[/quote] I am pretty sure they fled so stayed, some hid, some died, oh well. They are dead now.
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Cortana is essentially part Forerunner.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] amazingostriche Once more. Why did all of Noble team have to die. That amazing superpowerful Forerunner technology DID NOTHING.[/quote] Well, except fall apart when a cruiser was detonated on it. But accidentally releasing the flood and having to resort to the mother of all plan B's was all part of the plan, you see. As for Noble team, they died because they were being led by the same people who made the aforementioned plan. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sarge sammy1997 So no they didn't kill them selves, they fled the Galaxy for another. [/quote] Well, not necessarily. The ark was beyond the rim of the milky way, but there's so many greater orders of magnitudes distance between that and even the nearest galaxy that it would probably make a lot more sense just to hang out at a few dissociated stars and wait for the flood to burn itself out than to make an inter-galactic journey (there and back) for the same effect. [Edited on 12.29.2010 11:56 PM PST]
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No...pretty sure they killed themselves.... The Precursors fled, the forerunners didn't. If I'm correct (which isn't exactly likely) a few hid inside shield worlds or even on the arc which led to humanity (I think)
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They were no doubt going to die sooner or later, what with all the glassing of the planets poles and the extreemly large Covenant Armada right there. The main reason was, becasue they weren't even considred when Bungie first made H1 so there had to be a way to kill them off from the start.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LordMonkey forerunner AI, the forerunner were a super race of highly intellegent being that encountered the flood, they used halo and the ark to destroy the flood and everything sentient life (they thought all of the flood) and then their machines had dna of every species and restored the galaxy as it once was, but foreruner artifacts where on each planet. in the end the forerunners basically killed all of them selves to keep the universe safe.[/quote] Did you just read that off of Wikipedia? The Ark was millions of miles from the edge of the galaxy. The Halos couldn't go that far. Yes they had DNA of all the species and after so many years, they thought the flood starved to death,(Yes the Halos don't kill the flood, they kill their food, the Halos are meant to starve the flood, which means to kill all sentient life) they restored the Galaxy of life and after that they left the Galaxy for another. So no they didn't kill them selves, they fled the Galaxy for another.
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Once more. Why did all of Noble team have to die. That amazing superpowerful Forerunner technology DID NOTHING. But thankyou, I no longer doubt Cortanas competancy...just Bungies story board writers
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forerunner AI, the forerunner were a super race of highly intellegent being that encountered the flood, they used halo and the ark to destroy the flood and everything sentient life (they thought all of the flood) and then their machines had dna of every species and restored the galaxy as it once was, but foreruner artifacts where on each planet. in the end the forerunners basically killed all of them selves to keep the universe safe.
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If you guys read the books you would know Cortana didn't even know the rings existed. She made a complete random jump, which is under the Cole Protocol, "No Human vessel fleeing the Covenant can make a jump to Earth or the inner colonies." It WAS completely random, and lucky, that they found Halo. Also if you read the books then you would know the Spartan II were to leave on the Pillar of Autumn to capture a Covenant ship and then go to their home world and Capture a Prophet and try and get the Covenant to sign a treaty. Now you are wondering how Cortana is involved in this? She is involved in all this because they needed Cortana to breach the ships system so they could capture it. Now of course Bungie decided to screw the Cannon over so they made it where Cortana and the Autumn were on Reach. Well infect they were in Orbit. Does that answer your question?
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Exaclty. So what I've concluded from all this is that M.C.s' Cortana found out about the Halo array from a forerunner navigation crystal, but didn't tell anybody about it and acted surprised in C.E. when she jumped them there. Meanwhile a fragment of her from Reach took the exact same information from another massive Forerunner artifact. This leads me to conclude - once more - the story of the game is absolutely irrelevant due to Bungie scrambling to tie in the story to the main canon.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Matu Flp Krawfe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tyrant122312 If the two segments of Cortana were ever integrated and she new what Halo was and the coordinates, then why did she seem to be discovering the facts about it for the first time in the mission Truth & Reconciliation by tapping into the Covenant battle net?[/quote] Easy, amnesia. Wonderful, plot-hole filling, amnesia.[/quote] lol!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tyrant122312 If the two segments of Cortana were ever integrated and she new what Halo was and the coordinates, then why did she seem to be discovering the facts about it for the first time in the mission Truth & Reconciliation by tapping into the Covenant battle net?[/quote] Easy, amnesia. Wonderful, plot-hole filling, amnesia.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] amazingostriche All these answers are great, however I still don't see what the "game changer" found on Reach was, how it was used, or what the point of the games story was... Btw, I've read the fall of reach (been a while though) and I do understand why reach itsefl was an important planet/battle. Just finding the game a little irrelevant (but fun)[/quote] I'm with you on this. If the two segments of Cortana were ever integrated and she new what Halo was and the coordinates, then why did she seem to be discovering the facts about it for the first time in the mission Truth & Reconciliation by tapping into the Covenant battle net?
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[url=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Cortana]this is why[/url]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FalconStickr Play all the other Halo games, read the books and you will know.[/quote] Books: Cortana is just your support AI with some later stuff to do with forerunner data which she picked up [i]from the first Halo's control room,[/i] though it never really becomes that important. Halo 1: Cortana was the PoA's ship-board AI, but now she's your support AI. Halo 2: Cortana is just your support AI. Halo 3: Cortana is your girl-friend and you have to go pick her up from a rough night out. Reach: She's the magical MacGuffin that will somehow save everyone from everything. So, if you read all the books and play the other Halo games you won't be any the more sure about cortana because everyone has their own little story for just how important she is. Personally, I'd go with Halo 1 because by far that's the most interesting relationship possible between the chief and cortana, but you could just as well go with Reach if you don't mind putting up with inexplicable BS. [Edited on 12.29.2010 11:36 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] amazingostriche All these answers are great, however I still don't see what the "game changer" found on Reach was, how it was used, or what the point of the games story was... Btw, I've read the fall of reach (been a while though) and I do understand why reach itsefl was an important planet/battle. Just finding the game a little irrelevant (but fun)[/quote] Simple answer, it led to the discovery of Halo.
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[quote] As for the intel she acquired during Reach... I assume that it is that intel that allowed her to analyze the Forerunner artifact that led to her discovering Alpha Halo [quote] I'll go with that...
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All these answers are great, however I still don't see what the "game changer" found on Reach was, how it was used, or what the point of the games story was... Btw, I've read the fall of reach (been a while though) and I do understand why reach itsefl was an important planet/battle. Just finding the game a little irrelevant (but fun)
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] amazingostriche [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=54723346#54723346](post)[/url] You're getting there....But why her? Why dedicate a super lethal group of top secret Spartans to deliver her? Why not fly her up outside of atmosphere? And why Cortana? Most importantly, I repeat, what happened to the information she supposedly took from the forerunners?[/quote]Pelicans and other transport vehicles are obvious targets, and not secure enough to transport Cortana. One could assume that the [i]Autumn[/i] was, for reasons unknown, unable to land anywhere near Halsey's lab. As for the intel she acquired during Reach... I assume that it is that intel that allowed her to analyze the Forerunner artifact that led to her discovering Alpha Halo.
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That random slipspace jump from Reach wasn't so random afterall.. [Edited on 12.29.2010 11:28 PM PST]
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The escavation data she has, by Halsey, was said to be a "Game Changer", a possible way for humanity to survive and win the War. Thats why she was so important in Halo Reach.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] amazingostriche Not to add to the whining about the story line, but what exactly was so important about Cortana that most of Noble team died for? The fact that she carried forerunner data? At what time in the game or any book was this supposedly vital information utilized? Please fill me in.[/quote] Sure thing. When she was reintegrated with the fragment that had gone with master chief and recovered the data from the forerunner nav crystal on Sigma Octanus IV, she was able to decipher it and reveal the coordinates of installation 04, or "Alpha Halo". This is how I understand it. If you want a more detailed account I suggest buying the 2010 re-release of the novel "Halo Reach". I just bought it today and am looking forward to a good read before Halo: Cryptum comes out on January 4th 2011.
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Its not cortana herself that so important, its all the data on the forerunners that they just discovered and if you don't know, with the fall of reach humanity lost most of its military might(Save Earths Mac platforms) and like they say, Desperate times = Desperate measures.
