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12/24/2010 10:54:58 PM
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Carter and the Scarab {Spoilers}
[quote]Spoilers Ahead[/quote]
Alright, This is something that as always bothered me,.. So, perhaps we can have a discussion about it.
Below is the text for a cut-scene during "The Pillar Of Autumn".
[quote]A Scarab suddenly walks down in front of Emile and Six.
* Emile-A239: "Mother... We can get past it, sir!"
Emile walks back in hesitation.
* Carter-A259 (COM): "No you can't. Not without help."
* Emile-A239: "Commander, you don't have the firepower!"
After noticing the two Spartans, the Scarab charges its main cannon, aiming at the two SPARTAN-IIIs. Carter's Pelican flies over and shoots at it. The Scarab is distracted and stops charging its cannon.
* Carter-A259 (COM): "I've got the mass."
* Emile-A239: "Solid copy. Hit 'em hard, boss."
* Carter-A259 (COM): "You're on your own, Noble... Carter out."
Carter rams the Pelican into the Scarab's side as it charges its main cannon again. The Scarab's side bursts into flames, explosions rocking within it. The Scarab lets out a dying scream and struggles to stay on the cliff. More explosions rock it and it falls down the cliff. A loud explosion is heard indicating its destruction. The view switches back to the two SPARTAN-IIIs. [/quote]Now, this was a pretty sad and upsetting cut-scene, as most of Noble's deaths were (With the exception of Jun & Kat -_-), but, What Carter says really confuses me. Take another look:
[quote]Carter-A259 (COM): "I've got the mass."[/quote]
And then Emlie is all like:
[quote]Emile-A239: "Solid copy. Hit 'em hard, boss." [/quote]I'm watching this, thinking, "No, wait, back-up,.. Wtf did you just say? That doesn't make any sense!"
[quote]Carter-A259 (COM): "You're on your own, Noble..."[/quote]No, Dude, Hang on, wait...
[quote]Carter-A259 (COM): "...Carter out."[/quote]...Wait!
[quote]Carter rams the Pelican into the Scarab's side.[/quote]-_-
It just doesn't make much sense...
Discuss?
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I'm surprised we can still be spoiled.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Daedalus007 You said that it made little sense, not that the wording was odd. I think it was worded very poetically.[/quote]i second this twas very fitting and added much more emotion to the scere rater tahn ''i got ya covered'' instead it builds on emiles previous line and shows he was activly taking part in the conversation instead of just waiting for him to end and grunting some generic line instead we get a striking one liner that has meaning P.S Merry christmas. [Edited on 12.24.2010 4:06 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Daedalus007 You said that it made little sense, not that the wording was odd. I think it was worded very poetically.[/quote]The wording was odd, and it didn't make sense, to me. Yes, now that I can actually understand, I can agree with you. I just think that if I was in Carters shoes, I would have said something different. /:
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"i've got the mass" it means the pelican has enough MASS to take down the scarab obviously maybe
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Schlick15 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Daedalus007 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Schlick15 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NoWise10 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tracker108 He doesn't know what mass means... He means that his pelican is big enough and heavy enough.... and...USE GOOGLE BWARGH![/quote] You learn what mass is in 6th grade science...[/quote]Exactly,.. I know what mass is, dipshat. I'm 17, not a 12 year old troll.. It just doesn't make sense. Of all things to say! "I've got you're back" would have made more sense than "Mass".. >.>[/quote] Okay, I'll explain this. "We don't have the firepower" Emile says, as if to say that they absolutely do not have the artillery and arms necessary to take down the Scarab. Carter, however, offers an alternative to firepower - pure [i]mass[/i]. "I've got the mass" is said in retrospect to "We don't have the firepower" and he rams his Pelican into the Scarab, killing it with sheer force instead of weaponry.[/quote]I just think I would have said something else,..[/quote] You said that it made little sense, not that the wording was odd. I think it was worded very poetically. [Edited on 12.24.2010 3:55 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Daedalus007 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Schlick15 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NoWise10 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tracker108 He doesn't know what mass means... He means that his pelican is big enough and heavy enough.... and...USE GOOGLE BWARGH![/quote] You learn what mass is in 6th grade science...[/quote]Exactly,.. I know what mass is, dipshat. I'm 17, not a 12 year old troll.. It just doesn't make sense. Of all things to say! "I've got you're back" would have made more sense than "Mass".. >.>[/quote] Okay, I'll explain this. "We don't have the firepower" Emile says, as if to say that they absolutely do not have the artillery and arms necessary to take down the Scarab. Carter, however, offers an alternative to firepower - pure [i]mass[/i]. "I've got the mass" is said in retrospect to "We don't have the firepower" and he rams his Pelican into the Scarab, killing it with sheer force instead of weaponry.[/quote]I just think I would have said something else,..
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It maybe was upseting but it was so heroic without carter dieing noble six wouldv'e died and You never see jun die infact I dont think he does cause in the end cut scene you hear halsley talking and jun was with her so he must've survived
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Schlick15 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NoWise10 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tracker108 He doesn't know what mass means... He means that his pelican is big enough and heavy enough.... and...USE GOOGLE BWARGH![/quote] You learn what mass is in 6th grade science...[/quote]Exactly,.. I know what mass is, dipshat. I'm 17, not a 12 year old troll.. It just doesn't make sense. Of all things to say! "I've got you're back" would have made more sense than "Mass".. >.>[/quote] Okay, I'll explain this. "We don't have the firepower" Emile says, as if to say that they absolutely do not have the artillery and arms necessary to take down the Scarab. Carter, however, offers an alternative to firepower - pure [i]mass[/i]. "I've got the mass" is said in retrospect to "We don't have the firepower" and he rams his Pelican into the Scarab, killing it with sheer force instead of weaponry.
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You know,he could have just put it on auto pilot to hit the scarab and then jump out like emile, six, and 25 other spartans did on reach.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Daedalus007 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Schlick15 Well, if you read my entire post before posting like the obvious retard you are, you'd understand that I am talking about [b]what he [u]says[/u][/b],... Derp. [/quote] I read your entire post and what you're talking about makes no Goddamn sense. Stop being so rude to people, too.[/quote]I'm trying to discuss what Carter says, and why. And it makes perfect sense. What do you understand?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Phoenix1401 Carter was already dying so he sacrificed himself to give Emile and Noble 6 a way through the Scarab[/quote] Actually he wasn't.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Schlick15 Well, if you read my entire post before posting like the obvious retard you are, you'd understand that I am talking about [b]what he [u]says[/u][/b],... Derp. [/quote] I read your entire post and what you're talking about makes no Goddamn sense. Stop being so rude to people, too.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NoWise10 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tracker108 He doesn't know what mass means... He means that his pelican is big enough and heavy enough.... and...USE GOOGLE BWARGH![/quote] You learn what mass is in 6th grade science...[/quote]Exactly,.. I know what mass is, dipshat. I'm 17, not a 12 year old troll.. It just doesn't make sense. Of all things to say! "I've got you're back" would have made more sense than "Mass".. >.>
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] kyogre1101 He 9/11'd into the scarab and Emile realized that that was the only way when Carter mentioned it, very subtle and hard to notice but Emile was able to pick it up[/quote] =O [Edited on 12.24.2010 3:50 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ehcilC maJ I don't get what you're missing. He's piloting the Pelican into the Scarab.[/quote]Well, if you read my entire post before posting like the obvious retard you are, you'd understand that I am talking about [b]what he [u]says[/u][/b],... Derp. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MDFlash I'm pretty sure it's "I've done the math" but maybe not.[/quote]Yeah, That's what I originally though too. I quoted that from Halopedia, so. [Edited on 12.24.2010 3:47 PM PST]
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S259 = Nobelium has a standard atomic mass of 259. Carter says, "I've got the mass." Get it?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ktan Dantaktee Why didn't he just shoot the damn thing instead? And how did he get shot? There were no holes in the Pelican's cockpit window.[/quote] A stray shot from one of the Banshees that were chasing the Pelican, at the beginning of the level, hit him in the back and went through his chest.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] kyogre1101 He 9/11'd into the scarab and Emile realized that that was the only way when Carter mentioned it, very subtle and hard to notice but Emile was able to pick it up[/quote] Fail joke is fail.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MDFlash I'm pretty sure it's "I've done the math" but maybe not.[/quote]WIN. *Gives cookie*
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kame no Shiki He sacrifies himself because Noble 6 was carring cortana?[/quote] the thing is... he didnt need to be therfe IF they had closed the doors at the start of the level!!!!
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Pelican+Speed+Scarab=BOOM
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Why didn't he just shoot the damn thing instead? And how did he get shot? There were no holes in the Pelican's cockpit window.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] drake3011 It probobly would have made more sense if he just said "Im pulling a keyes" Seriously, the man slams his spaceships into as many covenant ships as he can and he gets the highest honours as a captain Ramming pelicans into cargo bays, spaceships into halo rings, the man was a one-man ramming machine Carter would have made him proud *Wipes tear from eye*[/quote] i just loled
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The only thing I've never understood is why Carter didn't use armor lock right before crashing into the scarab.
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The scarab was the mass, he didn't want six and Emile to take it on and end up losing losing Cotana. Also he have shot when the 3 were in the Pelican so he would have died anyway. but all in all it was sad for me....
