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12/2/2010 12:18:12 PM
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MY NAME is VIctor Resnov ! or is it Tyler Durden !? so confused AHHHHH
COD BO Spoiler*
If you have played the story mode in black ops and watched fightclub you know what im talking about. & I know Mason was brainwashed, but didnt the cutscenes remind you of fightclub? I noticed this just before mason shot Steiner and his handler intervened.
Opinions or other campaign observations ?
[Edited on 12.02.2010 4:24 AM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nesral301 "Mason. Every journey begins with a single step, THIS IS STEP ONE!"[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] halo odst 117 MC [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hyperupgrad Dargovik. Kavenko. Stainer. All must die.[/quote][/quote] Why does everyone insist on stealing my lines?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Random 1177 Topher Grace of 'That 70's Show' voices the character, Harris. He appears in 1 mission and has almost zero dialogue.[/quote] Yeah, I read that somewhere. What mission is Harris in? [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Heavy Risk *steal fight club story* *add government conspiracy* *add poorly connected real world tie-ins* ?????? profit![/quote] Fight Club didn't invent the idea of Dissociative Identity Disorder. And Black Ops didn't even steal Fight Club's story, it used DID in that one aspect. Please tell me what else you think Black Ops stole from Fight Club.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spartan2447 If Reznov was alive and fled to the US then he would have needed to lay low for a while, we don't know the full details of that. Why would Dragovich want Reznov as an assassin or bodyguard? Didn't he hate him and had him thrown into the chamber along with his squad to test Nova 6?[/quote] Yes, but Dragovich also realized that Reznov's relationship with Mason could have been an invaluable tool. It was also the only reason why the brainwashing didn't fully take. I think I'm over analyzing this crap. Hell, I don't even think Treyarch put that much though into their own plot.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheMaverick444 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spartan2447 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheMaverick444 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jaba Dawz 01 If you listen to the audio and what Mason says, it points to the fact that Reznov could have been with Mason-EXCEPT on rebirth Island, That was just Mason using his imagination.[/quote] No, Hudson says that Reznov didn't escape Vorkuta and was killed five years earlier. I know there's the whole "Reznov is not dead" hidden message, but if your theory were true why did Swift (the guy in the tunnel) ask you what was wrong with you if you were only talking to Reznov?[/quote] Reznov probably is alive but every other event where he appears to Mason was just his mind working on him. Enemies that Reznov killed either were imaginary or Mason killed them himself, lets face it Mason was going mental during the events of the game. He had to be killed after the end of it[/quote] If Reznov was alive wouldn't he had made an appearance in those five years he was supposed to be dead? If Dragovich had made him into an assassin why didn't he try to kill Mason or atleast have him as a bodyguard? Or if he did indeed escape wouldn't he have sought refuge with the US and shared his knowledge about Dragovich and Steiner with them? I personally think Reznov is dead.[/quote] If Reznov was alive and fled to the US then he would have needed to lay low for a while, we don't know the full details of that. Why would Dragovich want Reznov as an assassin or bodyguard? Didn't he hate him and had him thrown into the chamber along with his squad to test Nova 6?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheMaverick444 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jaba Dawz 01 If you listen to the audio and what Mason says, it points to the fact that Reznov could have been with Mason-EXCEPT on rebirth Island, That was just Mason using his imagination.[/quote] No, Hudson says that Reznov didn't escape Vorkuta and was killed five years earlier. I know there's the whole "Reznov is not dead" hidden message, but if your theory were true why did Swift (the guy in the tunnel) ask you what was wrong with you if you were only talking to Reznov?[/quote] No Reznov died during the escape from Vorukta, after you jump he gets killed while in the truck thats why he never comes. Then 5 years later all the other events happen and thats when he tells you he had been dead for 5 years. Nevermind thats exactly what you said but just to clear it up it happens in order like that. [Edited on 12.03.2010 4:12 AM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] joshynoob Yea, I noticed Resnov wasn't real when he popped up in the tunnels in nam. I was thinking "there is no way this guy is randomly every place mason ends up in his missions".[/quote] Also when the guy turns and says "What the -blam!- is wrong with you?" It's amazing how even the player doesn't realize it there either.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spartan2447 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheMaverick444 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jaba Dawz 01 If you listen to the audio and what Mason says, it points to the fact that Reznov could have been with Mason-EXCEPT on rebirth Island, That was just Mason using his imagination.[/quote] No, Hudson says that Reznov didn't escape Vorkuta and was killed five years earlier. I know there's the whole "Reznov is not dead" hidden message, but if your theory were true why did Swift (the guy in the tunnel) ask you what was wrong with you if you were only talking to Reznov?[/quote] Reznov probably is alive but every other event where he appears to Mason was just his mind working on him. Enemies that Reznov killed either were imaginary or Mason killed them himself, lets face it Mason was going mental during the events of the game. He had to be killed after the end of it[/quote] If Reznov was alive wouldn't he had made an appearance in those five years he was supposed to be dead? If Dragovich had made him into an assassin why didn't he try to kill Mason or atleast have him as a bodyguard? Or if he did indeed escape wouldn't he have sought refuge with the US and shared his knowledge about Dragovich and Steiner with them? I personally think Reznov is dead.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheMaverick444 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jaba Dawz 01 If you listen to the audio and what Mason says, it points to the fact that Reznov could have been with Mason-EXCEPT on rebirth Island, That was just Mason using his imagination.[/quote] No, Hudson says that Reznov didn't escape Vorkuta and was killed five years earlier. I know there's the whole "Reznov is not dead" hidden message, but if your theory were true why did Swift (the guy in the tunnel) ask you what was wrong with you if you were only talking to Reznov?[/quote] Reznov probably is alive but every other event where he appears to Mason was just his mind working on him. Enemies that Reznov killed either were imaginary or Mason killed them himself, lets face it Mason was going mental during the events of the game. He had to be killed after the end of it
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hyperupgrad Dargovik. Kavenko. Stainer. All must die.[/quote] dragovich, krevchenko, steiner im pretty sure im closer
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This was exactly what I thought!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jaba Dawz 01 If you listen to the audio and what Mason says, it points to the fact that Reznov could have been with Mason-EXCEPT on rebirth Island, That was just Mason using his imagination.[/quote] No, Hudson says that Reznov didn't escape Vorkuta and was killed five years earlier. I know there's the whole "Reznov is not dead" hidden message, but if your theory were true why did Swift (the guy in the tunnel) ask you what was wrong with you if you were only talking to Reznov?
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Reznov dies at the Vorkuta escape. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jaba Dawz 01 If you listen to the audio and what Mason says, it points to the fact that Reznov could have been with Mason-EXCEPT on rebirth Island, That was just Mason using his imagination.[/quote]
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Yeah, there's a few things with characters that are complete fabrications of the protagonist. It's something that hasn't been used enough yet to be entirely expected and common though.
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If you listen to the audio and what Mason says, it points to the fact that Reznov could have been with Mason-EXCEPT on rebirth Island, That was just Mason using his imagination.
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If I remember right, Dragovich is spelled wrong too.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Shiro2809 They're spelled wrong...=/ [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] werdnaz [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hyperupgrad Dragovic. Kresenko. Steiner. All must die.[/quote] note the 'c' in Dragovic should have a downward pointing arrow on it as well as the 's' in Kresenko. Fix'd for ya. Yes, I am Grammatron.[/quote][/quote]The only one spelt wrong is what's supposed to be Kravchenko.
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They're spelled wrong...=/ [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] werdnaz [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hyperupgrad Dragovic. Kresenko. Steiner. All must die.[/quote] note the 'c' in Dragovic should have a downward pointing arrow on it as well as the 's' in Kresenko. Fix'd for ya. Yes, I am Grammatron.[/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] werdnaz [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hyperupgrad Dragovic. Kresenko. Steiner. All must die.[/quote] note the 'c' in Dragovic should have a downward pointing arrow on it as well as the 's' in Kresenko. Fix'd for ya. Yes, I am Grammatron.[/quote]No. You both got it wrong. Pay attention to the game and you'll know... Or look at my earlier post correcting Hyperupgrad's error.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hyperupgrad Dragovic. Kresenko. Steiner. All must die.[/quote] note the 'c' in Dragovic should have a downward pointing arrow on it as well as the 's' in Kresenko. Fix'd for ya. Yes, I am Grammatron.
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Alright sounds good. I will check aswell and then check this thread tomorrow night.
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^-^ I'll steal from brother in law again tomorrow, playing through on Veteran (only on second level in veteran) and whenever I see him I'll post/editpost in this thread, if it's still alive ^^
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*smokes pipe* Agreed Shiro.
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If he actually does your second theory seems more reasonable then. Your first theory is flawed in the fact that if Mason is shooting the last 'guy' and Reznov kills him then he's just shooting for no reason, and your allies will end up berating you (and not be in cover anymore, which they always were when enemies were present).
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hyperupgrad Dargovik. Kavenko. Stainer. All must die.[/quote]Fail. Dragovich, Kravchenko, Steiner. All Must Die!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Shiro2809 I'll have to play the game again, I know in the Vietnam missions he kept dissapearing in a shoot out (if I remember correctly). Does he ever actually do any shooting or just stand there behind cover? Your second one seems more likely if he did 'kill' anyone.[/quote] I remember him killing guys. I will have to go back and replay to validate this. [Edited on 12.03.2010 12:10 AM PST]
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I'll have to play the game again, I know in the Vietnam missions he kept dissapearing in a shoot out (if I remember correctly). Does he ever actually do any shooting or just stand there behind cover? Your second one seems more likely if he did 'kill' anyone.
