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11/28/2010 2:00:37 AM
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Covenant Supercarrier - Capacity.
We all know about the debate over the Assault Carrier and the Supercarrier being the same ship, I would like to say I support the idea that they are 2 different types of Capital Ships.
I wanted to tell you this because this is a thread on the Supercarrier, and your and my guesses on its capacity.
I wanted to ask, if an Assault Carrier can carry 2 UNSC Frigates, what do you think a Supercarrier can? Not Frigates, actual gear, vehicles, and troops for the Covenant Troops?
Take not the Supercarrier is 88,000 feet long, translating into 27 kilometers, massive!
The still massive Assault Carrier, is 13-17,000 feet long, still immense, and it was favored by Fleet Masters and High ranking figures in The Covenant.
The hight/depth of the Assault Carrier is slightly greater than 2,300 feet, we can estimate, its at its deepest at the Cargo Bay.
The Supercarrier's depth/hight is unknow as of now.
Overall, I would say, multiple Scarabs, and Hundreds of Vehicle with Thousands of tons of gear. What do you all think?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] opogjijijp The supercarier appears to have roughly the same proportions as the assault carrier, so it should be ~5x bigger in every dimension, giving it ~125 times the volume. Going further back, A covenant carrier is 3x the length of an AC. If we assume they are of the same general shape, then the AC would be 27x the volume. TheA carrier can hold 300 seraphs, 200 banshees, 34 dropships, and a crew of ~4,000 If we scale linearly, then the AC could have 8,100 seraphs, 5,400 banshees, 918 dropships, and a crew of ~108,000. Scaling again for the SC, we get ~1,000,000 seraphs, 675,000 banshees, 114,750 dropships, and a crew of 13.5 million. Something that size would have no problem holding hundreds of thousands of vehicles. It easily hold a few thousand scarabs. Alternatively, the 3d model of an AC I have shows a volume of 1,877,000,000 cubic meters. multiplying by 125 gives 234,625,000,000 m^3. Now, I don't have an exact number, but it looks like modern amphibious assault ship has a volume of less than ~250,000 m^3 and can carry up to 2,000 marines, ~1,000 crew, and 30-40 aircraft. A SC is close to 1 million times bigger. [/quote]-Spoilers- Thats why Jorge's death was the best
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True, you only saw 2 corvettes, but the missions weren't over the entire planet. The entire planet was being assaulted and also, during long night of solace they said 'a' corvette was spotted, implying there was more than one left. And anyway, what are the chances that the only corvette near the planet was going exactly where it was needed to go?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Onyx81 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the n00b pwner Because the supercarrier appeared to only hold 2 corvettes, which were only slightly larger than a frigate, I would guess that it is actually an assault carrier, or a model only somewhat larger. The 27 km calculations did not compensate for the Savannah being a light frigate, perspective, or sizes being off due to game resources.[/quote]Where is your proof it can hold just 2 Corvettes? there were 4 or 5 spotted in the game, and maybe even more.[/quote] I said it appeared to only hold 2 because only 2 were seen, when it was the only capital ship on Reach. The corvette on ONI Sword Base and the one on LNoS were the only ones that were definitely from the supercarrier.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the n00b pwner Because the supercarrier appeared to only hold 2 corvettes, which were only slightly larger than a frigate, I would guess that it is actually an assault carrier, or a model only somewhat larger. The 27 km calculations did not compensate for the Savannah being a light frigate, perspective, or sizes being off due to game resources.[/quote]Where is your proof it can hold just 2 Corvettes? there were 4 or 5 spotted in the game, and maybe even more.
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theres no possible way its an assault carrier, its far too large. the fact the corvette is so utterly dwarfed and its in the foreground (infront) of the carrier, i do however think that a million seraphs isn't really feasible, my reasoning is if the supercarrier has that many fighters, where are they all? i think its another serious mess up on bungies part personally, like the autumn being groundside (which is almost impossible), they've went and made a ship that does not fit with what we witness in-game. either that or its almost entirely dedicated to carrying things other than attack craft, which would likely equate to an entire covenant army and all their support gear.
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Because the supercarrier appeared to only hold 2 corvettes, which were only slightly larger than a frigate, I would guess that it is actually an assault carrier, or a model only somewhat larger. The 27 km calculations did not compensate for the Savannah being a light frigate, perspective, or sizes being off due to game resources. [Edited on 11.28.2010 2:24 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I Em I Raptor [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] finalknight92 Shiveringly huge and powerful, to the point where it could crush all resistance on its own. Hm... Unfathomably massive[/quote] I know! And the Covenant had more of them! Immense power, It takes multiple Super MAC blast to de-shield it let alone demobilize it![/quote][url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=50679730&viewreplies=true&postRepeater1-p=1]I made a couple of really simple calculations into this. There's one halfway down page one, and another halfway down page 2[/url].
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] opogjijijp we get ~1,000,000 seraphs, 675,000 banshees, 114,750 dropships, and a crew of 13.5 million. [/quote] JESUS F888 OVER 9000 SERAPHS??? [Edited on 11.28.2010 9:42 AM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] finalknight92 Shiveringly huge and powerful, to the point where it could crush all resistance on its own. Hm... Unfathomably massive[/quote] I know! And the Covenant had more of them! Immense power, It takes multiple Super MAC blast to de-shield it let alone demobilize it!
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Shiveringly huge and powerful, to the point where it could crush all resistance on its own. Hm... Unfathomably massive [Edited on 11.27.2010 7:24 PM PST]
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Good logic, thousands of Scarabs, wow! People like to argue about it being so big, that in movement, it would snap in half? I dissagree, what do you think?
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u can see a corvet go in one and a corvet is bigger then a friget
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The supercarier appears to have roughly the same proportions as the assault carrier, so it should be ~5x bigger in every dimension, giving it ~125 times the volume. Going further back, A covenant carrier is 3x the length of an AC. If we assume they are of the same general shape, then the AC would be 27x the volume. TheA carrier can hold 300 seraphs, 200 banshees, 34 dropships, and a crew of ~4,000 If we scale linearly, then the AC could have 8,100 seraphs, 5,400 banshees, 918 dropships, and a crew of ~108,000. Scaling again for the SC, we get ~1,000,000 seraphs, 675,000 banshees, 114,750 dropships, and a crew of 13.5 million. Something that size would have no problem holding hundreds of thousands of vehicles. It easily hold a few thousand scarabs. Alternatively, the 3d model of an AC I have shows a volume of 1,877,000,000 cubic meters. multiplying by 125 gives 234,625,000,000 m^3. Now, I don't have an exact number, but it looks like modern amphibious assault ship has a volume of less than ~250,000 m^3 and can carry up to 2,000 marines, ~1,000 crew, and 30-40 aircraft. A SC is close to 1 million times bigger.
