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9/20/2025 8:57:07 AM
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Gear Upgrade Economy and Levelling

First, so I’m now at 400+ and it seems that I can’t go into matchmaking activities and get anything over 400 (modifiers are only for Master lvl and all give nothing over 400), so am forced to use a Fireteam for all casual play if I want gear levelling even a little bit? Second, I get that you want us to use new gear, but this upgrade economy is beyond stupid, it’s actively punishing beyond belief. Why spend YEARS collecting rolls of gear you like (and want to use in a game you enjoy and have spend hundreds of dollars on) and then have zero choice but to use nothing but 6 items because you have to spend days and days getting enough Cores to upgrade even one weapon? Combine those both together and you have not only an unworkable game setup for casual play / loot grind, but you have a game that is taking all the fun out of upgrading loot while it’s actively punishing you for wanting to use gear you’ve collected. No one has thought this through from the long time player’s POV, and it depresses me. I’ve been generally willing to ride through these ups and downs of yours lately, but now I’m at 400 it feels like you literally don’t want me to grind/level, because you’ve both taken all ability for me to just jump online and level up slowly, and you’ve essentially locked out thousands of hours of gear collecting by making it near impossible to use. Oh yeah, last thing: I get why locked loadouts are essential in the very highest activities but we’ve had them since leveling over 300. Honestly, it’s just another way to suck all the incentive (and fun) out of playing around with the loot you want us to grind for. I’ve literally had the same 5 weapons in rotation for weeks now. Is that really what you were wanting for our game experience? Ok rant over. But I do hope someone at Sony/Bungie is reading these comments. Thx

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  • I found it easy to grind up to 450 solo. I’m not bothered about the weapons in my vault and I had hundreds from the beginning. Every few months there’s a new meta anyway of a few guns. I’ve shredded most old gear now and haven’t missed a thing, in fact it’s cleared the vault for the new stuff, which is adequate. The game will hopefully build up from this start. The armour changes are major but just give it a chance. I apologise as Ive now embraced the new and getting on with it.

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  • I'd concentrate on grinding rather than posting! Gear is going to be reset in a few months and you'd hate to lose out!

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    • 90% of the gear grind is now just utterly wasting your time hundreds of light levels of useless gear to never get stronger at anything that actually helps you get gear cuz its all power capped at severe negatives just throwing our free time away like its garbage to them, no consideration whatsoever except small tweaks. The grinds have increased by 20-40x over what they used to be and most of the end is now the most tedious frustrating gameplay imaginable because they want people failing to waste more of our time. EoF has LOWER engagement than before it launched lol, such a disaster of epic proportions retaining value from grinding? they couldn't care less, they want everything starting over every six months like this was an MMO instead of a looter shooter so many satisfying dopamine reward moments in the destiny we bought and owned for 10 years, all of that is now gone - replaced with one of the most predatory systems I've ever seen in a game. Destiny would never have gone anywhere if it launched with these systems.

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      • The Portal is "the new face of Destiny" according to Bungie. That means it has to have its own sustaining economy with all the currencies available inside of it. And that's why the game feels like it sucks right now. There is literally no point in buying Edge of Fate since you can get everything the Portal offers, for free. And it will most likely be the same with Renegades, i'm willing to bet on it. And they will reset everyone to 200 and wipe our cores to 0 when Renegades comes around. There's no way there won't be backlash from the wider casual community. The streamers and content creators don't care as much because that's what their job is.

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      • Agree totally, NEW GEAR is the same effect as anything you earn now will turn into a pumpkin in 6 months anyway and you won’t be able to use it due to score multiplier nonsense

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      • Bump

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      • Grandmaster matchmaking was opened over a month ago.

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