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7/24/2025 7:20:21 PM
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Avant garde
Granting bonuses for using new gear is fine. Locking us out of content because our build isn’t what you want us to use isn’t. Make Avant garde optional especially on conquest runs.
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It's Bungle's way of sunsetting weapons and armor. Play how you like, but be prepared to get smacked down if you expect rewards or power progression. The boys who run Bungle are all ego and no controller.
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It wont let me use my sun bracers even tho I bought new ones so they would have the new armor system. Thats bullshit!
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1 ReplyAt least let us use exotic class items.
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37 RepliesEdited by wes238: 7/24/2025 8:40:09 PM[quote] our build isn’t what you want us to use [/quote] Prestige raid layers vanilla, Champion effects on certain weapons/abilities, artifact buffing specific things, locked loadouts, nerfing everything "overused", seasonal gear bonuses. Controlling what we use the whole time.
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This is sunsetting!!!
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Yeah that's why I invested a lot of time to get new gear tier 3 and higher where it has the ideal stats that I want that I use whenever I have to do with this modifier and then I have a second load of stuff that I prefer to use but still a tier loadout.
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"It's not sunsetting!" "Your old gear will be just as good as it always was!" "Play your way!" "You can still use your old gear, you'll just want to use the new gear because it will be better!" All the people who kept parroting these lines in the weeks leading up to EoF, how does it feel to have Bungie so thoroughly prove you wrong?
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1 ReplyThe only thing about Avant garde is the lack weapons in the light energy slot, especially special ammunition wise (at least imo) the best special weapons to go for are super hard to come by I’ve only gotten 2 lionfish drops and 1 mint retrograde. You can easily put together a build with the featured gear, which could also be used in those conquests so it’s a good place to start. But even running double primary is a little rough.
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Agreed Avant should be optional.
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Just some info I did not know. Watched a video from someone 400. In leveling and you get punished for not using all new gear. You have to use more difficulty modifiers if you don't use new gear. They will continue to punish you for using old gear.
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I'd be fine with optional. At the very least, can we wear the exotic pieces we want... 4 armor pieces.... maybe 1 or 2 weapons as the req? I'm willing to compromise... but IT IS too restrictive. 😇👍💠
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Yeah as long as new gear is dropping less numbers than my current gear I'm not touching it so guess I'm locked out of conquest lol
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3 RepliesEdited by Dr Livingston 9: 7/25/2025 12:06:17 AMthis is the micromanagement i am talking about. i have a post about it. they micro manage every aspect of the game. if they want so much control have the devs play their own game. i bet the devs are told what to do by management. i dont think the devs make these decisions.
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Yep. Make the new gear compelling, and we'll use it without being 'required' to.
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6 RepliesThis also effectively locks out f2p from higher ranks by pay wall
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3 RepliesFor all conquests?
