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3/28/2025 10:42:24 PM
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Why is Icarus Dash an aspect instead of being just a jump like Blink?
Like, what is the reason that the developers think this thing is worth an entire aspect while Blink is a "free" jump?
Please Bungie, either make this a jump or part of the heat rises or something.
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4 RepliesEdited by jyoung314: 3/31/2025 5:57:36 AMI'll do one better. Icarus dash should be available to every warlock subclass by default and it, and heat rises should be have their nerfs reverted. The nerf was completely unjust back then and make even less sense now that the game is faster and classes are even more broken. Hunters and titans don't have to sacrifice anything for their broken shite, why does warlock CONSTANTLY have to sacrifice something to gain something? Maybe that could be a huge reason why warlocks suck in pvp? 🤔🤯
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What do you wanna use it over your -blam!- glide ability or class ability? It’s in a great spot as an aspect, that’s a very appropriate spot.
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21 RepliesThis is a GREAT idea. Always check the profiles; Hunter Mains ready to cry and will shoot down the idea on sight.
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1 ReplyEdited by BetweenMyself: 3/30/2025 7:57:25 PMIcarus Dash as a Jump sounds absolutely terrible considering it has practically zero verticality. Load into a variety of Crucible maps as Private Matches, run around using just your standard jump (no Gliding) and Icarus Dash, even given yourself a full 100 Mobility to make sure you have the maximum base jumping height and pay attention to the number of ledges you either can no no longer reach without first jumping to shorter ledges or those you now have to Mantle up to. Bear in mind that: • You can’t fire Weapons or use Abilities while Mantling. • You can’t Mantle while firing Weapons or using Abilities (a subtle yet important distinction from the previous point). • A number of smaller ledges where you experience a small pause before surmounting without going into the full Mantle animation are [i]still[/i] being Mantled, meaning the two previous points start being applied as well. After you have had your chance to run around a map testing out all the added jumping between ledges and Mantling you now have to do, go ahead and drop your Mobility down to just 30 and try jumping to or Mantling those same ledges. Any of the ledges you are still able to reach now force you to sit through [i]even longer[/i] Mantling animations as you have that much more vertical distance to heave yourself over. In PvP scenarios, just how beneficial is it to both slow yourself down and leave yourself more exposed with all the additional Mantling or making multiple jumps in a row you would have to do with the lack of a Jump Ability that provides actual vertical movement? Also consider how limiting Icarus Dash as an alternative to other Jump Abilities would be in PvE content which tends maps with far greater use of vertical elements. If your response to this is “Just give Icarus Dash added mobility in the direction the player is facing so a they can get vertical movement by looking upward” then it seems to you’re just making a worse version of Blink, at which point why not just ask for Blink across all Warlock Subclasses? (΄◉◞౪◟◉｀)
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Icarus dash is really a waste of an aspect slot on solar lock.
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OGs remember when this was a part of the subclass as a thing you'd use by 2x tapping O and even let you use two of them if on the right dawnblade subclass node
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3 RepliesWhy is heat rises so OP in PvP and not been nerfed?
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It shouldn’t be a jump but I don’t like that it’s an aspect either. I also don’t understand why we don’t have an exotic that grants it.
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It seems like everyone else already said what I was going to - I’ll just sit back and watch 😁
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1 ReplyEdited by Why is this happening?: 3/31/2025 1:11:34 AMThis is a h[b]o[/b]rrend[b]o[/b]us idea. Please refrain from having ideas in the future.
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3 RepliesSkill issue. This has been a thing for the last 3+ years. Get used to it. U don’t have to use it lmao.
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Why is their an aspect called heat rises yet you slowly fall down? Why do we have an exotic called swarmers yet it doesn't do much swarming Wrathweavers and promethium spur(self explanatory). Just remember a brain green lit all of these ideas, for whatever reason we may never know.
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Icarus built in to solar...yes only one dash at base two with aspect with reduction in cool down......strong dash with aspect and dawn blade no cool down cause damage while dashing or some kind of a slash dash or horizontal Phoenix dive with flame trail and and damaging charge....
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4 Repliescuz it will be super trash as a jump option? and is a dash not a jump, but i agree thy need to rework /buff that aspect, a dodge alone is not worth for the aspect slot inside pve
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It wouldn't work as a jump
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[quote]Like, what is the reason that the developers think this thing is worth an entire aspect while Blink is a "free" jump?[/quote]You wanna lose your glide for Icarus Dash?
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3 RepliesL take
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4 RepliesIt's an aerial movement. People would complain if all warlock subclasses were able to icarus dash
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[quote]Like, what is the reason that the developers think this thing is worth an entire aspect while Blink is a "free" jump? Please Bungie, either make this a jump or part of the heat rises or something.[/quote] Cause it’s a horizontal dash, not a jump.
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Step one of an ability being a jump is that it has to propel you upward...
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4 RepliesIcarus dash is quite literally not a jump, if anything it's more of a class ability.
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This is a winning take. Love it. There should be consideration for it being integrated with normal solar jump to free up other aspects.
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Edited by eliteg: 3/29/2025 4:04:28 PM
elitegOnslaughteristically Inclined (Zzzur) - old
Icarus Dash is such a nice movement ability that when I do anything not-build related/tricky (world/patrol stuff) I always choose solar. I think they should consider adding it to all.. at least light class warlocks.. this can help balance PVP as well. In return you do have to give something unique to Solar but as Voidlock in PVP.. man it would be nice. (that movement feel to the game really adds to the experience and is one of the strengths of Destiny 2 we always talk about.. gunplay and movement.. its been 7-10 years depending how you look at it.. its ok lean into your strengths and give it to the player-base.. and just monitor PVP) -
If they change it from an aspect to a fragment then they'd most likely increase the cooldown. If lucky 36 seconds same as thruster. This would also remove the gain cure when killing enemies while in the air effect.
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[quote]Like, what is the reason that the developers think this thing is worth an entire aspect while Blink is a "free" jump? Please Bungie, either make this a jump or part of the heat rises or something.[/quote] Ummmm because it's not a jump.
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Because reasons
