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I haven't played much PVP this season (because I'm not very good) but the only thing that has really frustrated me is that the dodge messes up friction (I'm on controller). I can usually stay on the Hunter, but this season it seemed like a few were dodging 3 times in a row, then my mag is empty, and dude just mops me while I'm reloading.... skill issue I know(not sarcasm). But back to back dodges are hard to counter in my own personal opinion. But, it is part of what makes a Hunter a Hunter. Nerfs, for any class suck. So it's got to be challenging to balance 3 classes with all the variables available, and not miss/ overlook something. As far as invis and redrix etc... invis isn't an issue for me personally, and I feel redrix is busted on every class. Just my opinion. Edit: doges is Elons thing. I meant dodge...

The issue is class balance and skill-level. Titans and Warlocks are more difficult to learn, play, and spec (weapons/armor) into with exception to certain Warlock movement tools. The skill gap between high-skill Titans versus low-skill Titans is huge. Titans are either great or bad. Fairly similar with Warlocks. But with Hunters, the skill learning curve is more linear. A mid-skill Hunter will dominate non-high-skill Titans and Warlocks. It is what I noticed for a long time in PvP. Also, it doesn't help that Hunters have much more weapon-specific exotic armor than both the Titans and Warlocks combined. Hunters have the ability to insta-refresh their melee or reload their weapons, and if solar instant radiance. Hunter's dodges cooldown is still faster than getting a shoulder-charge back, and easier to spec to reduce the cooldown. Not to mention that dodge can refresh a Hunter's melee whereas a Titan and Warlock doesn't have anything in the toolkit to instantly get back their melee. We have to use an exotic armor or aspect/fragment to get multiple melees or grenades or decrease the cooldowns. We can't insta-refresh anything. For the record, I play all classes. I'm not a PvP pro/streamer, but I can usually hold my own 1v1. I can pick up my hunter and dominate with minimal builds. I have to really think and strategize when building my Titan and Warlock...unless I just use Ophidian or Transversive.

Been in Platinum rank in comp for majority of the season and it is nothing but invis hunters in here. Like 90% of my matches

In here, Hunters pretending they are balanced.

As someone that plays comp yes hunters are broken and i don’t want hear about the nerfs they got that barely did anything 😂 if the nerfs worked and balance them then why is so many players using them still? Its because they are still broken.

Its the bandwagon effect. Players are using hunter because it has the highest skill floor right now. Almost all the game play is being prop'd up by RDM. It will eventually be addressed. I am less sure of what they will do this time though as they have alot of options.

100%. I don’t play Crucible anymore, Hunters with their invisibility, super and one shot HC and Shotgun kills has made it unplayable and not enjoyable anymore.

If I had only played warlock recently, I would have written the same thing, but it just so happened that I played quite a bit for all three classes and I can say that the problem is the broken matchmaking - it simply does not work, I can't even imagine what processes are happening in the game while the matchmaking inscription is displayed based on the guardians' assessment, because I do not observe any assessment results and the entire selection is a great chinese random with one difference - China has nothing to do with it.

1000% agreed

If we keep nerfing Hunters, what's going to stop all the potent, free abilities of Titans. The four good Solar Warlock players in pvp?

This could just be me not being a very skilled player or just my luck but hear me out I have had matches where we pretty much got destroyed by warlocks and titans and don’t get me wrong when I go play my other classes same goes for them, I’m no where near the best or even strive to be, I want fun over all things But doubt it’s just a Hunter problem more so every class is running some strong load out that just destroys a lot of things in its path and your just finding it on hunter out of all things

[quote]I have never had issues holding my own in PVP with my Voidlock like now. I can't beat a hunter in a 1 on 1 in a random control game. My weapons don't matter. They are unbalanced.. too strong with abilities... too agile/fast/invisible... I do not care about the details. This is my feedback to Bungie. Also - It feels like Fusions can't miss. Shotgun are the same and with closing time... they have range that is just insane. Redrix can often control matches. The game is just way off again. Without the ability to have a balanced/good match in PVP.. chasing things in PVE or even the free events is meaningless to me.. I don't get how they throw off the crucible so often but this just suddenly feels like.. past week or 2... just wtf is goin on in PVP? I want to hear an update that the PVP strike team is going to look at this. Until then I'm not logging in.. I have no reason to.[/quote] Love loading into multiple games in a row and looking up at the enemy supers and classes and seeing 5-6 void hunters. Nothing will make be back out of a game faster