It's this seasons comp weapon, why in the world would they destroy the reason for casuals to populate comp for 3 to 9 matches a week, with about 12 weeks to still play in the season barring no DLC delay..
It did not need a handling nerf, it needed a stability and range nerf, Sword logic got hit ok want a better perc, go get kill clip it's stronger, go play comp.
Dead gun and casuals don't populate comp. It will die in the sandbox update for Frontiers
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It needs a damage nerf to body and head.
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Does it do more base damage to the body or head compared to other 450 pulse rifles, on its own, without an exotic or a damage perk activated?
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Don't know but it kills faster than other rifles. I have never seen a weapon used by more people than that.
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[quote]It's this seasons comp weapon, why in the world would they destroy the reason for casuals to populate comp for 3 to 9 matches a week, with about 12 weeks to still play in the season barring no DLC delay.. It did not need a handling nerf, it needed a stability and range nerf, Sword logic got hit ok want a better perc, go get kill clip it's stronger, go play comp. Dead gun and casuals don't populate comp. It will die in the sandbox update for Frontiers[/quote] I don't know Chuck. Maybe because even post nerf it still accounts for half of all kinetic slot kills. I didn't say neuter. I said the balance pass was insufficient and it highlights an even bigger issue. Pulses of all kinds have been the meta by too far a margin for too long now. We should not be waiting for Frontiers. Real-Time Meta: Overall Crucible March 11 - March 18 Top Kinetic 1 Redrix's Estoc 50% 2 Rose 9% 3 Outbreak Perfected 9% 4 Crimil's Dagger 6% 5 Ace of Spades 5% 6 Deadlock 5% 7 Hawkmoon 5% 8 Khvostov 7G-0X 4% 9 Thorn 4% 10 The Last Word 3%
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Bxr is just as strong but not used because it's not new
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[quote]Bxr is just as strong but not used because it's not new[/quote] Bxr has worse stats and perks even ignoring Lone Wolf, if we could.
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Trust everyone will b**** went 50% of the player base is using lucky pants hand Cannon Hunters next
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[quote]Trust everyone will b**** went 50% of the player base is using lucky pants hand Cannon Hunters next[/quote] Undoubtedly. But not everyone can throw those on and make them work like all of the Pulse rifle metas. Like Bygones Live Graviton Like Red Death Casuals didn't even chase Rose. As you yourself pointed out, they needed something so obviously broken like Redrix to want to show up for 7 games.
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Both can have 100 aim assist, kill redrix alone and nerf nothing else ppl will use bxr same problems yet bxr isn't a problem maybe it's 50% of the ppl using the same thing so everyone is sick of it
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[quote]Both can have 100 aim assist, kill redrix alone and nerf nothing else ppl will use bxr same problems yet bxr isn't a problem maybe it's 50% of the ppl using the same thing so everyone is sick of it[/quote] It is indeed usage that is causing the problems, but in this rare instance, people are all infact using it because it has a definitive edge not seen by its counterpart. That doesn't mean the preceding Pulse metas were any more fun than the one we currently suffer either though.
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Crafted bxr has better overall stats than the base redrix most ppl are using, less aim assist, when enhanced prep motion is proced,it's almost always proced, hip fire dance machines makes both weapons eerily similar stat wise yet nobody uses bxr
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[quote]Crafted bxr has better overall stats than the base redrix most ppl are using, less aim assist, when enhanced prep motion is proced,it's almost always proced, hip fire dance machines makes both weapons eerily similar stat wise yet nobody uses bxr[/quote] Lone Wolf and Sword Logic are such a strong pairing. Added stock. Doesn't really require you to consistently move to increase its stat spread. We should certainly begin with Redrix and see what other changes are necessary if any. But many of us are tired of Pulse rifle gameplay being the most predominant period.
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Bungie will work on the mnk hip fire accuracy nerf before nerfing it again. It's range and stability are the issue, that's where it needs to be nerfed too much range too much stability. Nerfing handling did nothing
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[quote]Bungie will work on the mnk hip fire accuracy nerf before nerfing it again. It's range and stability are the issue, that's where it needs to be nerfed too much range too much stability. Nerfing handling did nothing[/quote] I agree. It's a laser. Lone Wolf will likely see balance changes soon too.
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Every time I get killed it's mostly redrix. All people are using is pulse rifles or autos to a lesser extent. You almost have to equip redrix at this point.
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[quote]Every time I get killed it's mostly redrix. All people are using is pulse rifles or autos to a lesser extent. You almost have to equip redrix at this point.[/quote] Everyone should so the minority pretending it's not a problem look even more foolish and the Devs will have to capitulate. I'm all for comp weapons being strong. This is straight cheese.
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I have refused to put it on because I despise that gun. Same reason I don't use junton. I have been using hand cannons.
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[quote]I have refused to put it on because I despise that gun. Same reason I don't use junton. I have been using hand cannons.[/quote] I feel that way about Fusions. I'll never bother with them. Even to make a point. The weapon type I have the least respect for.
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Junton is a rocket launcher called a fusion. It should not be allowed in competitive or trials. Just like witherhoard you are right though the more people who use redrix will force Bungie to keep nerfing it until it becomes diarrhea.