When you aren't dealing with cheaters alright but when there's a warlock with a well every 10 seconds complete bullshit

Extremely good Best PvP I’ve seen all year [i]Meanwhile people having the time of their lives in halo 2 pvp[/i] [spoiler]The Gravemind urges you to play any other game[/spoiler]

If there were a "solid but flawed" option I would vote for that. I think there's a lot of issues with matchmaking in certain playlists, but beyond that I think the major issue with crucible is actually in how people look at it. People don't really see buildcrafting as part of the skill of crucible, and if you're the type of player who just throws on the meta thoughtlessly and calls it a day I suppose that's fair, but those players lose to people who properly put a build together. Of course, so long as that remains true, there are gonna be some builds that are majorly unbalanced, but that's just the way of destiny. Been that way since the very beginning, and that's never going to change. But despite that, sometimes even [i]because[/i] of that, crucible is very fun at it's core. There's a reason it's the only pvp mode in a looter shooter to see any significant play, except for I guess dark zone in division but i don't really know about division, just quoting what i've heard from other people in regards to that. The reason being that there has been a lot of thought put into how crucible is designed for, and from a very basic level, a lot about it just works.

Avoid control and it's amazing

Idk, I feel like even when I’m winning I’m angry. People just play so annoyingly these days. They’re either really really good and pixel peaking me, or they’re really bad and just grouping up in a bolt charge barricade, running away as soon as I hit them first