This is the same treatment Bungie gave Halo before leaving it behind. They literally just stopped caring, and the PvP modes became cluttered with the most ridiculous Forge mode maps, to the point where you never saw any of normal maps, to say nothing of the ridiculous game modes that blotted out the regular ones.

First of destiny is no longer a golden goose its barely holding the studio up in fact if bungie never joined Sony they'd probably have already shut down. But yer bungie are a mess they have no coherent direction they seem to act more with the wind than a plan personally I'm just enjoying it while I can. Destiny as an ip needs a new studio with new leadership if its going to have any future

there weren't even 200k people who wanted to go into the game and watch the new season like it was before!!! and they still managed to break the game as always, this is the crutch on which the game is held and dying, it will be long and painful

One word. 💩. They have killed this franchise and their studio. The number of people that will not purchase Frontiers after this episode is going to sky rocket. Yes, to those that will ultimately try to defend this season, I probably agree with many of your arguments about it. The one I will state clearly is that it is far too early in the season to be calling it a failure. However that is immaterial, first impressions stick and the playerbase has had e-f***ing-nough with Bungie’s excuses, constant difficulty rises for the majority of the playerbase, poor decisions that robbed us of a Destiny 3, and perennial failure to implement content without bugs. Bungie are a laughing stock within the games industry and the gaming community. When I tell others gamers I play Destiny 2, I get one of 4 responses:- 1. I tried to play it but as a new player it was just too confusing and the original campaign has been deleted. 2. I gave up when they continued to turn it into a second job. 3. What do you play that 💩for? I left years ago !! 4. Destiny 2? I heard it was dead/💩/ full of micro transactions. These optics are not what a healthy game should look like. I don’t believe Bungie can turn this around, as I feel Frontiers will be another poorly implemented, buggy mess. I mean at this point it’s just recognising the constantly repeating patterns.

Unfortunately your observation is correct sir.

Bad launch for a season with a bad activity. Great job Bungie. You really pulled out a win by taking some of the least popular modifiers and making everything worse. I'm surprised they didn't slap Oscillation on that crap just to really make it clear that they don't like players or even their own game.

The server issues are just hilarious and predictable at this point, why anyone expects otherwise is beyond me. It was so funny seeing all the streamers lining up to try to get in queue yesterday and then just spending 3-4 hours of their stream chatting while waiting for errors instead of just going to play something else or do something that was more engaging than staring at an error code screen. Personally I'm enjoying the season so far, but I can already tell this is not content I'm going to grind for more than a few days and this isn't going to bring back or keep a lot of players in the long run. I wish they would have just given us the old dreadnaught back as a patrol zone like Pale Heart with a bunch of exotic quests and other things tied to it.

I was told it's already dead, so "dying" is positive progress!

Virtually the whole first cutscene when you start Heresy is old recycled content, not a great start. Sad to say, but this game has become a patchwork quilt.

I spent some 50 bucks on pool mania 8 mobile game this month. I used to be in your seat. Now as a casual, I’m just happy I played something “new.” It was worth 9 bucks alone. The game has become so mysterious to me since I’m no longer a no life. I mean inspect my hunter, my main. I can’t even unlock aspects and fragments yet. Do you read me? Stuff like doing Encore or black spindle, or Optimus Prime or the like missions many times after searching and watching for online walkthroughs is so demotivating since I fell to the casual level. Same thing for dungeon and raids, and damnnnn even seasonal content I can’t complete related quests. I also avoid clan friends who offer to use their gaming time to “help” someone -blam!- doesn’t need help at all, but who slowly but ultimately deprived himself from parts of the game because he doesn’t want to live alternative experience such as a friend speed running some mission and activating all secrets while I just try to stick to him. Or can’t do it because it’s on a weekly rotation. It ruins the whole dmn thing. The whole “let’s make it mysterious” and “convoluted” “ultra mechanic” “world first” mentality is the destiny we love sure, but at a certain time after a content is released, avoid the whole mystery and show everything on screen. Like literally for instance directly point at which switch to activate in exotic mission outbreak perfected without even having a quest to pick up for it if the player is at that level. Objectives shouldn’t be quests. Same for all. No brainer. Or else trust me I’ll keep paying for starting to play the new season right now and having no clue whatsoever you’re talking about but I can tell you were disappointing as a customer who would have manage his agenda differently should Bungie had been low key humble over the downtime because right now 21:46, the game is rolling for me. Edit: And as a Saladin’s pride customer, I know where I’m going this time on the dread and I like what I’m watching and playing.

When they keep lying, they think it gets them out of the hole it doesn't, and you expect them to tell the truth they won't. They tarnished their reputation with lying and greed and are you surprised because I'm not.