Really gets me thinking that people… Work 40-60 hours a week. Raising Kids In some cases barely making ends meet And Trials of Osiris is eating away at their minds

Everyone deserves the same CHANCE at every reward, but not everyone deserves every reward. Adept Trials weapons can now be obtained through sheer determination, despite one's ability. Play enough games, and you'll eventually win some. Win enough, and get rewarded. No other end-game mode in Destiny operates this way. * Master Raids are pass / fail. * Master Dungeons are pass / fail. * GM Nightfalls are pass / fail. And no amount of "trying hard" can make up for a player's inability to complete them. So why is Trials being treated differently? Is it not an end-game mode? Don't ruin the prestige of the mode by allowing EVERYONE to get EVERY reward. [spoiler]There are other ways to allow a higher percentage of players to go Flawless, such as reducing the number of wins required to x5. [/spoiler]

Trials wont work with SBMM, old or new. SBMM will give a 50/50 win rate (the way Bungie implements it), this makes both going flawless and going on streaks incredibly difficult. The current (until heresy) version will give about an 11% chance using both mercies and only a 0.78124% chance for a straight flawless. In the new Trials (post heresy) a flawless is 7 straight wins, thats a 0.78125% chance. SBMM removes the skill factor and makes it all luck based. Which team has the slight advantage. SBMM punishes players for getting better or being good. It removes the incentive to improve and only causes fewer people to play. SBMM has never been good for Destiny it always causes drops. What should actually be done for Trials is a Practice Passage that can only be used by players who have a low KD (below 0.8) and fewer than 200 games. The passage works the exact same as normal but will not count losses and does not give access to farming adepts. Then have the passage use very loose SBMM (if youre a 0.5 with 10 games you wont go against a 0.5 with 100 games or a 0.8 with 10 games etc.) so that people are still playing Trials with a difference in skill but are not being steam rolled. They should not be making the changes they are nor should they implement SBMM across the board. Bungie attempted to give handouts with the Passage of Persistence but that only worked for a couple weeks. It wont change here simply because those bad players and the casual plauers still need to sink in large amounts of time to be rewarded. Now its just going to punish the good players by bringing back flawless pool and making flawless runs nothing but luck. Catering to casuals and low skill players is catering to failure. Thats why the games f*cked right now, they catered too much for people who have no skill or no time to play.

Sbmm is the worst idea for trials. It would essentially mean every player has a 50/50 chance of winning. People just need to get better & stop whining, if you aren't good at PvP then practice until you are

Agree plus carry services would disappear over night ,Imagine pvp mains saying they are pvp mains but they carnt hack playing the same skill level . Watch the excuses of nobody will go flawless blah blah lol even though it all depends on who wins the most out of 5 games for the decision of who wins for 1 round , they all act like it's just one not five lol,of course sbmm would work the only difference is compared to now is the top % would have to earn there spot instead of preying on noobs and the bottom percent will still have to work just as hard since they will be playing people in the same skill level. Even if you put aside what I have stated above ,just look at the actual proof from studies that show sbmm is better for a healthier playerbase

Not sure why Bungie is so damn adamant on dumbing down the game. Seriously what is the point of going flawless now when you can get both the flawless rewards as a random drop without going flawless and now you will be able to get to the Lighthouse. The only thing you get now is the Title, which is only a matter of time before it is even changed.

Casuals don't play Comp, either, and it has strict SBMM

The Trials changes just make me shrug my shoulders. Who the F cares? Why would I play Trials of Osiris when 95% of the gear blows huge @zz*. Guns that are only good in pvp, crappy worthless armor, and the cosmetics, bungie holy crap how many more ships, sparrows, and ghost shells do we need in the game. Why would I ever play this crappy playlist when pve loot is far far superior? Why should I grind for trials weapons when I can go get craftable raid, pale heart, and seasonal weapons which are way better? Also, they are craftable meaning I am 100% guaranteed the exact roll I want. Trials armor?? Bro who cares?? I can literally go into the pale heart and farm up loads and loads of pale heart engrams, then I can go to the vendor (my ghost) and focus loads of high stat armor for little to no effort/sweat what so ever. Trials was pointless before, it's pointless now, and in Heresy it looks like Trials will remain pointless. And Guess what, ladies and gentlemen boys and girls? I don't think that's going to change anytime soon if ever at all.

[quote]Trials will never change without SBMM[/quote] Good thing they added that second pool then that has the SBMM in it? [quote]This experience builds off the Practice Pool, which despite the lower total population, has helped keep average and below average player participation in Trials over the last several months ~20% higher than the similar low point from before the 2021 rework. [b[u]]Utilizes Weekly Performance Based Matchmaking[/u] i[/b]f everyone in your fireteam is on a Completed Lighthouse, Flawless, or Trials Passage.[/quote]

I'm so tired of the lowest tier players in this game always acting like it takes some faceit 10 sweat to roll them. Low tier players get rolled by everyone else. That's why they're low tier. Bungie already has the sbmm pool to go with the participation trophy passage they're adding. This post is completely pointless.