[quote]This is the most boring pvp meta people just sitting back and two bursting with pulses. -blam!- is so boring.[/quote] Nope. The pulse meta needs an extension, compared to hcs. Hcs have been the meta for 5.5 years.

Tell me your a Handcannon main, without telling me From Rise Of Iron, to Shadow Keep, we stayed under a HC meta, that's all Bungie made was new Handcannons , D1 PvP was pick your poison Pailindrome or Eyasluna Your own medicine doesn't taste good does it? I hope they make an auto or smg with high ground on it

Up front… I’m terrible but I also play off meta all the time. Pulses are fine outside of Elsie’s

Sad but not surprised to see you get downvoted. This forum is the last place that would know about sandbox balance. If you guys are curious who’s in the back of the map with pulses and fusions not moving, check the forums lmao 😂

the main issue right now is high ground requiring literally only 1 bullet to activate and how busted it makes 540 ands 390 pules and gravaton lance having 100 stability. once those two things get nerfed things will level out. the 340 nerf was very good and now the gun archetype requires a whole lot more skill to land 2 bursts. i personally wish they went with a fire rate nerf to make them .73 ttk weapons though the nerfs they made definitely have had a large effect as we can see based on trials.report statistics. they're closer now to the skill requirements to use 140 and 120 hand cannons and thats why we see a massive shift from elsies to gravaton and bygones. i think as of right now the main weapons that need love are auto rifles like 360s should kill in .75 because they cannot effectively be peek shot and vex mytho will become good again and 600s need their full revert. that and then add another 260 scout with precision instrument as well as make 450 3 burst pulses like outbreak perfected and bxr battler kill in .8. literally everything else is fine though other than buffing a few underused guns and nerfing high ground and gravaton lance's stability. if bygones didn't exist the meta would be a lot more balanced. also remind you that rose is still the second most used weapon in trials every weekend its just bygones is broken and they need to fix it now.

[quote]This is the most boring pvp meta people just sitting back and two bursting with pulses. -blam!- is so boring.[/quote] 340s have been 2 burst weapons for numerous years now.

Im having tons of fun. I see a lot of movement in my matches. Idk why people act like its just six people in each spawn lined up like some civil war firing line and only pulses are allowed. Ive never played a single match like that. Wasnt it auto rifles that were over-tuned? It was, and they were the most boring meta. Then nothing changed and now its pulse rifles are over-tuned and the most boring meta. Then nothing will change and itll be scout rifles etc... Until your preferred weapon is in and then the crucible will be how it "should" be. Ive never played against or with such a wide variety of primaries. I have a legendary auto, two pulses, a hand cannon, a scout and several sidearms that get used every single night. I think the crucible meta is in a really great spot.

They are fine… personally I love this PvP meta… more of a test of aim…

Exactly: Ease of use is NOT balancing! People tend to forget it and just yell and do whatever they can to keep their crutch. Thats why they get that mixed up.

Every meta-switch people complain that the meta is too overpowered. And every time it’s the exact same comments for the exact same reason. Just ride the wave, it won’t be here forever. It was handcannons for ages, then it was smgs, now pulses have their day in the sun. You have access to the same weapons as everybody else. You can just fight fire with fire.