I feel on reflection we need more ability spam!!! Lots more !!

I'm not really a PvP player but the other day had to play a few matches for the tommy catalyst. And i did not see ability spam at all. Yes there was a few but nothing game breaking. Maybe some of you take PvP a bit too far? I mean it's not an EA tournament. 🤔

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I think PvP on PC needs to go away or they need to nerf the reticle friction to controllers. They are so broken and the XIM us on MnK users is through the roof. I am hoping at the 1 month mark when people Ring 1 Sub goes away we have less cheating issues.

I think it's too much, but NOT BY MUCH. Only minor changes are needed.

Abilities are fine… space magic in a space magic game is to be expected….

This kind of question is so loaded… people at the super high end think abilities are everywhere when they really aren’t (outside of Hunter dodge spam). People at the low end don’t know how to use abilities well. For all the ability talk… I don’t die to abilities very much other than supers. Loaded up a match last night and don’t think I sides to an ability once, and all my kills were using my bow or sidearm or melee cleanup.

It's really not too bad, just tweak storms edge a bit- less verticle hit cone bubble and no more kills through walls. Yes I main hunter- tweaking it just a bit will bring the other supers into fruition

I think abilities are in a good place right now with the exception of prismatic hunters. They just stacked them with generally faster cool downs than any other class.

I don’t touch D2 Crucible, so I really have no dog in the race anymore. That said, I’m still hoping for a miracle from the PvP Strike Team for you masochists still trudging around in the playlist. Shine on, you crazy diamonds.

Been too much since beyond light, 30th anniversary was peak pvp

It's Destiny, so I think having pvp be guns only is stupid. There are a hundred COD clones out there and only one Destiny. I think it's the height of stupidity to expect pvp in Destiny to restrict abilities.

The best crucible has been in a long time was the original checkmate iteration. Earned special & way less ability spam, actually created a skill ceiling & more tactical ability & special usage. What we have now is just catering to smoothbrains

I think ability uptime is the best its been. I get into plenty of gun fights. I think its so ridiculous for people to make these wild claims that abilities are getting more kills than guns. I still get in more gun fights that have zero abilities involved whatsoever than engagements with abilities involved. People rarely actually die to abilities. Am i annoyed by some of them? Sure, but that's ok. Im way more annoyed by certain special weapons then i am by any abilities. Even then im not asking for anyone to remove those from the game. Ive never even asked for less special ammo. Maybe they should just make hardware permanent.

I think titans need a significant buff in pvp. I play one, and it's soooo bad. My bubble titan build wrecked in pvp before this season. Now it's a joke. Sunbreaker takes an eternity to get it's super, as well. We're not even gonna talk about the stasis subclass, that hurts your team more than it benefits them. Strand is -blam!-, as well. The arc subclass is probably the most well balanced subclass. Prismatic is also disappointing. We also have no good exotics for supporting our abilities. Armamentariun is the only reliably good titan exotic. And bungie would find a way to nerf that if they could. I'm just so tired of seeing storms edge in pvp. That's literally all you see anymore. I played iron banner the other week and played against a team of six of those -blam!-. I was playing bubble, so you already know how that -blam!- went. I'd like to get in on the ability spam, but instead, I get a melee ability that doesn't kill in one hit at shotgun range. Shoulder charge is a high-risk ability in today's pvp meta. It needs a buff bad. Never understood why we don't have an exotic for thermite grenades either. They just scream that you should use them on a titan. Our barricade animation takes forever. Scorch isn't lethal, either. Never could figure out why voltshot is tied to a reload. It makes so many weapons useless in pvp. There is so much wrong with pvp right now. Too many to list. And a majority of them are with titans. Special ammo should be more abundant as well. If you haven't sniped in forever in pvp, don't try it. You will suck at it and you will not get enough ammo to practice. It's also really stupid that shotgunners have their ammo drop at their feet, but if I'm using a sniper, I have to run out into the open to get the -blam!- brick. Why can't you just get a round of special to reserves automatically when you get a kill? That would make my voltshot useful on special weapons. Special crates should drop 2 rounds, not one. And bring back some of the old d1 maps. D2's maps suck. I miss when first light was a trials map. The maps in D2 are so terrible. And bring back interchangeable optics. I wish I could change the sights on some of these weapons. The guns are the only thing fun about this game, but bungie just refuses to let us have fun with them. Makes you feel like a vasectomy patient with erectile dysfunction in a strip club. It sucks. This game is not what it used to be. We kept all of our special ammo on death in d1, and nobody complained about that. They started this stupid special ammo economy change during the late days of rise of iron and have been on the warpath since. I just miss when this game was fun, bro.