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Edited by Fever:
8/30/2024 6:52:32 PM
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REMOVE Guardian Ranks
They do not accurately gauge the skill level or knowledge of players in the game. These are designed to waste guardians time and data and that’s it. The fact you have to refresh your level every season says it all. I’m tired of getting matched with 10 and 11s and outscoring them.
Can we get back to having fun? Everything is a constant grind for nothing now. If you make the game fun and exciting, more players will be active. You are taking advantage of the dedicated player base and getting every single second of data out of us should be illegal. What goes around, comes around.
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Agree. Commendations and Ranks is a failed system.
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7 RepliesNone of this matters sweetie. Guardian Rank? Data? It's all useless. Focus on the important things. Like goth girls and imported tea.
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1 ReplyEdited by AbsolutZeroGI: 8/31/2024 10:07:15 AM[quote]They do not accurately gauge the skill level or knowledge of players in the game. These are designed to waste guardians time and data and that’s it. The fact you have to refresh your level every season says it all. I’m tired of getting matched with 10 and 11s and outscoring them. Can we get back to having fun? Everything is a constant grind for nothing now. If you make the game fun and exciting, more players will be active. You are taking advantage of the dedicated player base and getting every single second of data out of us should be illegal. What goes around, comes around.[/quote] My duo/trio buddy hasn't gone above guardian rank 5 ever. One of the best players I know, and he doesn't care. I stop at rank 10 most of the time, but this season it's gonna be 7. It didn't retroactively count my competitive coop clears of the TFS missions, and I'm not going back and doing that sh*t again for no reason. I got my Microcosm, Bungie can bite me.
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4 RepliesUnfortunately there are players that use the ranks to discriminate against other players, especially when trying to use LFG for harder team based content.
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8 RepliesThe fact that this business has added A LOT of stupid crap to the game to waste a gamer's time more than anything else should say enough, and this is just another one to add to the list of wasted time and money spent on this game to waste a gamers time. It's like how poorly the leveling is designed in the game. How poorly the stats were designed on gear. How the RNG is rigged in this game Or how they rigged GG The list is HUGE of all the wasted time spent in this game and it's [b]by design[/b] to give the naive the illusion that this nonsense they added to the game "matters'. Well, it took way too long but at least people are finally waking up to how poorly this business is as a developer that the player base continues to drop off. A lot of the unnecessary decisions made in this game didn't need to happen, but they did by choice. It happened because this business always looks for the easy way out and now they are paying for it. Someone made a post about this business's 10-year anniversary and asked what sticks in your memory for the right reasons. Mine would be that this business is finally getting what they deserves for using their player base as a cash cow, wasting the player base money on other projects instead of investing that money into this game where it belongs to actually improve the game and gamers' experience, not add crap like the ranking system just to waste a gamers time.
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8 RepliesIt's also meant to gatekeep mods from F2P players.
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1 ReplyThe dev time they put into maintaining that system could be put into making more meaningful content. Sure it gives people to chase but I personally have not once cared about my rank. If they don’t remove it then the one thing I want them to do is remove the stupid post game screen I’m so tired of not being able to leave games immediately when they finish
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10 RepliesBuild slot should not be a part of guardian rank
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It all boils down to participation trophys. There's no point of grinding for a higher level, everything is gated and reset at each season. Bungie is catering to the "random" player that hops around from game to game while ignoring the veteran players who are really here for the story, the loot, and to become "god-killers". That's why sales are the lowest and player activity is tanking. Your veteran players have completed the last chapter in the story, all that's left is "it's been a hell of a ride, goodbye.. on our terms."
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everything is in fact meaningless in this game Iron lords? most I've seen were so bad at crucible. conquerer? hell one was literally a pac man using up all the coins sharpshooter? literally couldn't keep up his whisper and kept reloading it. it's all flawed. There was a time where it at least required minimum to achieve something but now everything is just obtainable without getting good at the game
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Just ignore them, problem solved.
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This is a puzzling post. Why do you care if Ranks are in the game if you genuinely don’t care about them and have your own gauge on what constitutes player skill? Keeping Ranks or removing them doesn’t impact your experience in the slightest lol
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I ve never had an issue with 10s and 11s playing gms, Dungeon etc. It doesn't 100% guarantee you that the guy is a gamer but your chances improve significantly. I don't get the purpose of this post. If you don't want to engage with it, just don't engage with it. Mad cause bad?
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16 RepliesJust ignore them, the triumphs are nothing more than a checklist for some and the ranks are little more than bragging points for others.
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Guardian Rank means EXACTLY what you want it to mean. If you don't want to do chores, or focus your efforts in the game to complete specific tasks, or tackle challenges, then don't worry about them. There's NO gatekeeping that matters (the occasional LFG post that says "GR 11 and Master's Degree" does NOT matter). If you play a lot and are looking for a curated list of tasks and completions that will challenge you to become a well-rounded Guardian with skills in different arenas and an overall enhanced competency at the game, then hey, look what Bungie did for you! And it displays to others so they can see your score! Renewing rank is fine, as the game is "live service" and things change and evolve. As someone who works in a field that has consistent training and certifications I am familiar with "re-upping your rank" and it's only a big deal if you make it one. This week I will re-certify in CPR and First Aid again. Twenty-something times now, I have lost count. As far as "can we get back to having fun?" that's a question only you can answer. I'm having fun right now! If you need help with anything that requires team mates, my Bungie name is ARTFUL 5#9117 and I help people all the time. Last play session I taught someone her first Dual Destiny, helped another rookie clear Encore, taught another person their first Root of Nightmares, and helped another guy get Hierarchy of Needs from Spire. Help and fun are both out there.
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1 ReplyLast season I ran a few GM Nightfalls, saw a few inexperienced 8s and 9s, some of them would wipe more often then me on my first run of the GM in question. Usually other 7s and 6s would do just fine. These were in my No mic GM runs, I would usually put chill, patient, first time as I didn't have a clear yet, it would seem some of those that joined me didn't either regardless of Guardian Rank. Key takeaways, Rank and skill aren't always the same thing.
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2 RepliesTypical case of mad cause bad
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1 ReplyIt's not just guardian ranks. There are other elements of D2 that I have no interest in spending hours to complete that gets me nothing in return. For example, in the past I have competed campaigns in a day or two on the higher difficulty for the challenge. This season I spent almost a week to solo the campaign on Legend difficulty got nothing but a triumph completion that didn't even count towards guardian rank. Another sticking point is the ridiculous difficulty jump from normal to legend. It should be labeled master. As a result a cottage industry has sprung up that has the average guardians paying a ringer to complete an event. This is a result of Bungie catering to professional gamers, streamers, and you-tubers and it's unfair to the thousands of average gamers who play for the fun of it. They shouldn't have to resort to paying a ringer to complete a task, achieve a guardian rank, complete an exotic weapon quest, or obtain a weapon catalyst. Instead of making tasks obscure and vague, more difficult, or an endless amount of steps, try making the game more fun and we would probably play more. For the fun of it.
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Edited by SLOOOT_APOCALYPS: 9/1/2024 2:01:27 AMI'd rather gauge guardian ranks based on prestige armor earned. And that's why I have a ghost with a number next to it just how many times the raid was passed
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3 RepliesEdited by Rhulk-A-Bye-Baby: 8/31/2024 1:08:23 AMI have always finished at rank 10. But this season I will be finishing as a rank 7. I can’t bring myself to run the Cooperative Focus Campaign missions again. I wish they would’ve retroactively fulfilled the requirement the first time I ran them to get microcosm. Don’t let ranks bother you. They are not a valid representation of a players skill. Some of the best players I have come across are typically rank 5,6, or 7.
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3 RepliesReal talk. This is the reason why i have a minimum rank of 10 on lfg. I just dont wanna waste time wondering if they know the mechanics or not or if they have experience. I just accept all 10’s and 11’s. Easy run. Nuff said.
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30 RepliesTranslation ‘I can’t get higher that 7 and I’m mad about it’
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It's not worth getting that annoyed about something this late in the game. Just do you, if you don't want to grind the ranks then don't, if others do want to, What's the big deal?
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Edited by Fever: 8/31/2024 5:49:50 PMThank you to everyone who commented and upvoted. Even tho we are a top post, I’m sure nothing be done about it. I got banned last time I made this post.
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1 ReplyBut then how will the Bungie forum gatekeepers know who to denigrate as "low lights" not worthy of having an opinion?
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1 ReplyHaving or not having Guardian Ranks makes absolutely no difference in the game. It's just a status thing for kids. If anything, they should stop using Guardian Ranks to block access to all loadout slots.
