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7/3/2024 3:35:26 PM
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Any recommendations for horrible player?
So I'm extremely bad at pvp in this game and there is no help in sight. Typically every time I participate in a match I'm the worst in the entire lobby (lowest kills, lowest captures etc, even though I try to focus on objective) I basically spend the entirety of pvp matches dead.
Any recommendations for a player like myself? I'd like to be able to participate in all the game has to offer so just quitting pvp isn't an option I guess, because I'd like to play iron banner and such. It just gets exhausting always being the worst and letting my team down.
Little bit of background, I've been playing Destiny since day 1 launch and I've always been horrible at pvp never improved no matter what I tried. So I don't think length of time played is a factor. I play a warlock by the way.
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Best advice you'll ever receive. Start playing call of duty. The end
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Rather than give you negative comments which help no one, hopefully you find something useful below to take into your next game. By playing more you will get better over time. A lot is not down to skill but ensuring you have enough recovery and resistance on the armour set to get back into the action. Having the right mods on armour sets helps. Stay behind cover and not run into open spaces where you can get easily taken out. Joining friends in private matches will help you learn the map layout and be able to call out areas for your team to assist should you need additional support. Try to stick with your team and play more with them than taking on the fights yourself. Try it on your next game. Play around with different subclasses and weapon loadouts to see what works best on certain maps. Make sure you start saving your loadouts so you can select a new one for different maps in PvP and PvE activities. Ensure what weapons you select are updated to match the elements on your armour. The radar in PvP is located top left of the screen depending on your settings this indicate which direction the enemy is in. It will identify if they are above or below you too which most people are not aware of. Using the radar well comes with practice. Weapons that keep the radar up like Mida Multitool and Ace of Spades allows you to aim down sight and maintain the radar, try these if you have them. Alternatively using knuckle head radar exotic helmet (on hunter character) will allow you to use other weapons while maintaining radar. Using a headset helps identify certain sounds. This comes with practice, give it a try! Listen for the jumping and the gun sound direction. There are loads of guides and support out there if you wish to better yourself in PvP and set up your character and loadouts build better. Visit Xur he has some good armour sets some weeks. Lastly it’s a game to be enjoyed. If that stops take a break. See you out there guardians!
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Edited by Avid_Coffee_Drinker: 7/5/2024 4:17:37 PMIf you’re looking for play style tips, maybe try focusing your gameplay and builds around assisting your teammates. There are a ton of support based abilities/exotics to take advantage of if you just want to focus on boosting your team as a whole. Sometimes it’s enough to just get one or two shots off and get an assist instead of focusing on trying to duel against enemy players or to run healing grenades/overshields and shadow your allies. Also playing to not die instead of getting kills will help your team as a whole. I find trying to play this way both and fun and great for playing with/against sweats.
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1 ReplyDon’t be bad
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I dont play that much but here’s my 2p worth. Don’t stand in open spaces, and know the map layout. Oh a don’t take it seriously.
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Best way I’ve found is to get someone who is better than you and play against them for a bit. You may not be able to replicate all that they do for the time being, but you get used to how they play and move. If you can ask tips from them. D2 for the most part is a much easier game than other shooters. For basics though, keep constant attention to radar, aim at head level at nearly all times, choose a sens that works for you, and slide to take yourself off radar as you move around the map.
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8 RepliesEveryone here will give you 100 tips and all of them will be wrong. You don’t need tips, you don’t need advice, or tricks, or help. If you want to improve at Destiny pvp (or anything in life) what you need is to change your mentality. This forum (and any another video game forum) is filled with people complaining. “Match making isn’t fair” “This gun is overpowered” “My team sucks” “There’s so many cheaters” “Flawless is to hard” These people will never be in the top percent of players. Some of them may become above average, maybe even decent, but none of them will ever be in the top 0.1%. Why? Because to improve at something you need to have two things: Self accountability and drive When you die if your first reaction is to complain. Give up, you’ll never be good at anything in life. When you lose a game if your first instinct is shift blame instead of asking what you could have done better, give up, you’re lost. Everytime you play a game of pvp you should always be looking to fix your mistakes. When you die ask yourself “why did I die?” Was I too far away from cover? Did I not react fast enough? Did I miss to many shots? When you find the problem then you work to fix it. You do that over and over for thousands of hours until you reach the top 0.1%. It sounds easy, but it’s not. There is a reason it’s the top 0.1% and not the top 100% because 99.9% of people will read what I wrote and think “it’s just a game” or “he doesn’t know what he’s talking about”. It doesn’t matter how many videos you watch on youtube to improve. It doesn’t matter how many forum tips you read, or how much twitch streams you watch, or how long you spend on aimlabs. Get in game. Fix your mistakes. Play for perfection. 99.9% of people are content with mediocrity, you can not be.
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Stop taking d2 pvp seriously.
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Try knuckle head radar on hunter. It gives you radar while ADS and it marks people with a big old X on your screen. Information is power. Choose more forgiving weapons, rapid fire pulses have high aim assist and you can buff them even more with targeting helmet mods and weapon mods. Always play near cover. Don’t fight at a disadvantage, if you’re outnumbered or lose first shot advantage disengage and relocate.
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As an old guy, that proudly brags about his 0.6 kd, just try and have fun. Not fond of pvp, but I always play Banner. Already did a reset last nite with a buddy. Most times I'm in last place, sometimes not. I don't care and neither should anyone else. Grab some fun guns, set your resilience at 100, team shoot, use cover and capture zones. And the loot is great. Just have fun!!!!
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Play objective, stay with team, strafe while shooting, don't just stand there being a easy target or you'll die quicker, use weapons you feel comfortable with, use build you also feel comfortable with, I'm pretty bad myself but this helps a lot
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I suck in pvp but I just play the objective use guns I am best with instead of trying to play the “meta” and stick with squad mates. I have clan mates who are amazing in pvp so I’m match made with their skill but I can still be a 1.0 k/d and usually have fun.
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Have fun. Just have fun. Its a game. It means nothing, despite what people say, in the grand scheme of things. I'll bet there are people above you at the end score wise who have just sat and camped a zone. You see them all the time. Crouch walking arpund in the same area for an entire game getting eight kills and thinking they are super awesome because people ran into their sights. These are people who care more about their 2.765456789876 K/D than they do about you, the objective or having fun. Is that who you want to be ?? I do not care about K/D. This enables me to hoover around giving not one jot if I get killed. If there is an objective, I play it. I am enjoying Iron Banner because, after initially getting irritated at people not capturing anything I decided to just do it myself. Sometimes I am bottom of the scoresheet. Sometimes the top. Meh. All that matters is I have fun. What you'll find is that you will just become better over time. I played a Control IB about an hour ago on Midotwn and came top. Got a nice message from a team mate for capturing zones all the time. That helped us win. I died a lot but hey, who cares ?? Mate, just have fun and stop worrying what your team mates think. It doesn't matter.
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Is there a subclass(es) you really like playing? Also, consider finding a short range weapon and a mid-long range weapon. I would recommend starting with Control. It’s a great way to learn maps and weapons: both in terms of what you like/ comfortable with, but also what’s going to work in each location. Agreed with others: you have teammates, learn to stick with them. You don’t have to try 1v3+. They will react to what you see/ if you are shooting enemy player, and you can learn to do the same. Stay close to your teammates, but not right up on top of them. In Control, since it’s 6v6 you will get to see how both your team and the enemy side handle encounters…what path they take, when they take cover, when they push vs capturing a zone, what weapons they use. You can learn a lot by observing. Also in 6v6, you might feel less pressure to do well, compared to the 3v3 game modes. Find a plays-style you like, and then work on some builds that help elevate/ highlight that game style. You are a warlock, take advantage of long drifts, as a number of players don’t look up. Anyways, I recently started playing as a Warlock main. You are welcome to DM me if you want to talk ideas. I am not the best at PvP, but glad to try and help.
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My advice stay away from PvP if you feel like you can’t improve that’s fine someone will always be better than you until proven otherwise. There are some animales that play this game and you do not need to be them. If you enjoy the game without stepping to their level than you are doing a great job.
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Sometimes it's just internet speed. I run round a corner and there's another player with a shotgun, just like me. I shoot first - bang! The he shoots - bang! And I die - every, single, time. He runs off. The top players do research. No, seriously! They spend hours testing weapons and builds and practicing techniques. They learn spawn points and wait for you to revive just so they can insta-kill you. That's fun for them. I sometimes play for a specific goal, or just spend the event jumping off a cliff over and over. My cliff to death ratio is unrivaled.
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Actionable tips: Start in PVE with your pvp weapons and focus on hitting the ads with headshots only. This will make your aim sharper and get you used to the recoil on your weapons from being shot. Try to get comfortable with a single weapon. Pick your favorite and use it consistently. Make sure you are using unflinching armor mods as well as targeting armor mods that match your weapon types. Pick your battles wisely, in 2v1 scenarios you will get cooked most times. Try to have the numbers in your favor or distance in your favor.
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don’t play pvp
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Play Rumble and worry more about staying alive than getting kills. If someone starts shooting you first get out of there, you’re not going to win the fight. I started playing rumble because it was a quick way to get ritual stuff done, I used to run around trying not to get killed because it was more fun than getting my butt handed to me every time I took a shot. Eventually the kills will come after you learn to survive. I’m no PvP god or anything now but I’m usually in the top three in regular crucible or Banner. I don’t play trials at all because I like my sanity :)
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2 RepliesGet used to random engine BS like melee whiffing, rubberbanding, etc. Find a gun and build that feels good for you, not the "meta" (unless you enjoy the meta) Prioritize enjoying your matches over trying your hardest to have a good performance
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If it has to be, just stay with it, and you will improve. No one started as a master; this takes a lot of practice. That's the hardest part.
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1 Reply[quote]So I'm extremely bad at pvp in this game and there is no help in sight. Typically every time I participate in a match I'm the worst in the entire lobby (lowest kills, lowest captures etc, even though I try to focus on objective) I basically spend the entirety of pvp matches dead. Any recommendations for a player like myself? I'd like to be able to participate in all the game has to offer so just quitting pvp isn't an option I guess, because I'd like to play iron banner and such. It just gets exhausting always being the worst and letting my team down. Little bit of background, I've been playing Destiny since day 1 launch and I've always been horrible at pvp never improved no matter what I tried. So I don't think length of time played is a factor. I play a warlock by the way.[/quote] What’s your play style? Are you aggressive or do you stay at ranged. If what you are doing now hasn’t worked Do the opposite. If you are as bad as you think you are probably won’t hurt your stats to try
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The best I can suggest is to just play. PvE or PvP otherwise. The reason being is that as you get more familiar with how the game plays, such as the weapons you use and how movement works, you will get better at the games entirety. Including PvP. Of course, this only works for a base skill level, and will not build on other skills needed to combat opposing players. Once you have that base skill level though, go into PvP to build those extra skills needed to succeed within the Crucible. Lastly, use beginner friendly weapons. Autorifles, Pulserifles, Fusions, and Sidearms are all great beginner weapons to use.
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Edited by Zuni: 7/4/2024 12:56:47 PMPlay gambit and portal camp with some dumb op heavy like Levis, Sleeper or Microcosm. That’s what all the terrible players do. Can’t guarantee it will make you better at pvp, but at least it will net you some cheap kills.
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I honestly wouldn’t bother. It is so not worth it.
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2 RepliesJust watch and mimic better players on YouTube or Twitch. Also study the meta.
