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Edited by Pk: 6/27/2024 10:11:18 PM
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Any Titan mains there? Alive? Boiling point of the titan class issue

So many years Titans didnt get any game changing abilities or builds or at least good utility without nerfing to useless state Main complain is there is no reason to take titan instead of warlock or hunter in any activity harder or equal to normal raid (except RON it very easy). Been playing Destiny 2 since Forsaken came out my main is Titan First i go for subclasses breakdown: Arc: melee ult + thundercrush which forces u to take on exotic just to be at least useful with it (atrax tactic with 6 TC titans is no more cuz of warlock can go novabomb with stareater scales on exotic class item) TC cant be used on more than half bosses (oryx, witness blah blah) and if its used u have to run back and lose weapon DPS resulting sometimes in damage loss compare not to use any ult On arc u got one loop - hold (only one usable melee in PVE) thunderclap throw a grenade or grenade first - done. Thats all... Solar: 2 long time use ults mostly for ad clear (or use pyrogale for oh boy oh boy another melee oneuse ulti) Was playing solar mainly before "heart of inmost light" became top tier on arc and after this exotic was nerfed alongside titan arc subclass. On solar at least u got more than one melee with throwing hammer plus good survivability (no build is good without sol invictus tho.... prove me wrong) Void: 3 ults now yaaay Sentinel shield (another melee ult) is usable only with "Doomfang" with aspect "offensive bulwark" Ward of Dawn was useless since Well of radiance appeared (5 years i guess?) and they nerfed it to the ground in the only activity it was good - PVP control New Ult Twilight arsenal (3axes) THE ONLY single use ranged damage super in titan kit and its mid (in damage terms).... Void subclass as a whole is good only with controlled demolition aspect. Void overshield has 65hp and 50% DR wich is equivalent to... well... 2 shots from minotaur or 1 shot from wyvern. Shield gain speed about 75% speed from warlock healing rift. With this information think about this - ward of dawn (Bubble) had its own overshield before nerf triple as good than void overshield it provides now. Stasis another melee super and is a joke... As a whole its useless and i know there will be some folks with "good Hoarfrost Z builds" but hunter and warlok can do same tthing but better a lot better. Glacial quake is used only on riven or edge of action glaive bubble Strand was good before nefrs and yep it has another melee long time super. It was second good build for titan in GMs because of utility Abeyant leap provided - almost free Woven mail for everyone for 10 seconds with good crowd control. Now Woven mail is nerfed for 5 seconds and titan cant live in Bungie power fantasy because almost everything titan got in Strand subclass again MELEE But flechette storm is not melee! Show me that smart man or woman who jumps into air stay stationary to throw all ur charge and not die in GM Into the fray aspect got nerfs alongside with woven mail Only useful aspect is banner of war but with woven mail last 5 sec i wont take strand anymore into gms Now we got PRISMATIC where THE ONLY GOOD (better say combo) BUILD is knockout + consecration New void aspect is funny but again its melle based thing without any utility for the team + its so weak so u gonna be killed if used for offence, tested... Void overshield was so bad that ads from second encounter from salvations edge dealt with it in seconds. Use aspect grenade and risk for ur life just to do what a supressor grenade can... Now exotics An insurmountable Skullfort - melee for content normal raids or less Mask of the quiet one - useless Khepri's horn - useless except it presence on a class item (though more of a gimmick) and yes its not properly working wave sometimes wont come back does anyone care? Helm of Saint-14 - nerfed and only use with a useless glaive Eternal warrior - useless (gives 25% damage buff to a single damage type after an ulti. 3 surges in legs gives 22% without needing to spend ult and choose ult corresponding to ur weapons affinity) One-Eyed Mask - PVP Precious Scars - only good on class item, as a standalone exotic - useless Loreley Splendor Helm - Nerfed. Solo dungeon life save exotic otherwise useless (only use when literally anything else is cant be used) Cadmus Ridge Lancecap - useless gimmick ACD/0 Feedback Fence - melee PVP Doom Fang Pauldron - melee with an ult for AD heavy enviroment but warlock or hunter can clear a room faster than u get kills to refund ult Synthoceps - melee + got nerfed Aeon Safe - every class got it Ashen Wake - useless, maybe a PVP gimmick Wormgod Caress - melee ultra mega hype good exotic wich cant be used properly by half of D2 players Ursa Furiosa - was essential in season of opulence and since then useless Stronghold - First good exotic that changes a way to play Citans Ramparts - nerfed to the ground and almost useless Icefall Mantle - makes ur titan build in mobility LOL trash (u cant run or jump) No Backup Plans - melee kinda gimmick shotgun build better use "Haz Prop" Second Chance - use literally any weapon with artifact barrier mod or wishender/arbalest - naah (again melee trash) Point-Contact Cannon Brace - melee gimmick works like An insurmountable Skullfort but only with thunderclap Pyrogale - melee for single use burning maul (trashed in vault after Star eater scales on class item) Wishful Ignorance - yet another gimmick melee trash Crest of Alpha lupi - used only for orb creation for weekly challenge Actium war rig - used with 3 weapons Sweet business (powercrept by necrochasm) tommys matchbook if u tired of reloading and retrofit escapade (its useless now) exotic useless now Hallowfire heart - we got heart of inmost light at home type (its a lot worse) Armamentarium - PVP only but powercrept with exotic class item (useless) for the record: arc got aspect for 2 nades and this ex doesnt work so only use with void Heart of inmost light - second really good exotic even after its nerfs Severance Enclosure - another useless melee gimmick (same as scars state, only good on class item) Cuirass of the falling star - was created just to be created so titans cant have damage and a good exotic Hoarfrost-Z - the only good exotic for useless stasis F Arbor Warden - PVP for fun gimmick (u ll dismantle it after 1-10 matches) Hazardous Propulsion - Third GOOD exotic and second that changes playstyle Lion Rampant - every class got this one like aeons Peacekeepers - PVP SMG only Dunemarchers - PVP Mk. 44 Stand Asides - trash Antaeus Wards - most of the time not working PVP exotic Peregrine Greaves - another melee exotic... Ha ha try to get to a champ in GM activity or just teamkill it with gjally... Phoenix Cradle - second utility for team exotic but a ton better than precious scars (this actually good but u can create sunspots in place only by casting super) The Path of Burning steps - nerfed and useless Abeyant leap - good but with 5sec woven mail not worth And for the builds... Hunter got the best melle build with liars handshake and even better with it on class item with syntos Maybe support role? Nah warlocks got healing turret with x2 restoration 20sec uptime and can be infinite if built correctly Add clear? Nope... sunbracers, necrotic grips, liars handshake, gyrfalcons hauberk, triple turret warlock etc... Boss damage? well... u ll find videos with 8mil damage hunter in a single damage phase on witness What titan have? Only 3 consecrations in prismatic which came with Solar 3.0 not with prismatic so its old thing but can be used 3 times No good single use damage supers from distance No Utility use for team or its so little so its not worth it others good things got NERFED Only 3 good exotics to use in endgame and less than 5 builds maybe even less that 2-3 builds will work. U can browse me on raid report and dungeon report im not a casual PVE player. Pk#0816 But for now the only play in hard content for titan is "Hazardous propulsion" with Thruster or class item with "Spirit of inmost light" + "Spirit of Star eater" Quote "if its not working in GM difficulty its bad" I wont argue about build crafting but 90% of builds for titan is around melle and Hunters can do it better RIP bonk titan Hail strand grapple titan! Oh wait hunters do it better... This class need a complete rework or reimagine About half of the titan exotics have damage buff for kills because otherwise they will be compeletly useless. You wont see so much of this on warlock or hunter exotics. Just look for yourself And as a conclusion: no reason to take any subclass except prismatic for any activity and maybe solar or strand banner of war for solo dungeons because our toolkit so little it fits in all prismatic.

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  • No point in playing titan mate, pick up elden ring until they fix that garbage as* class

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  • At this point, I might just grab War Rig and Sweet Business. It ain't much but it's honest work.

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    • At least y’all have access to reputation and double loot bonuses. They won’t even acknowledge that Warlocks are bugged.

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    • Come on… you really think Titan mains can read that wall of text you posted? 😏

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    • The Titan classes are clones of each other. Consecration, Howl, and Flechette, are the same different colors. They also suck in PVP. I’ve been killed by them a combined 4 times since the release of Stasis. I can remember being killed by these moves because it’s so rare and it means I did something stupid. These moves are useless against decent players. Fist of Havoc, Sentinel Shield and Blade Fury are the same super, different colors. Prismatic Titan brings these issues to the forefront because Bungie doesn’t have enough things to put on the class that would make it worthwhile to run over the other monochromatic subclasses.

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    • The high cost of complete loss of class identity in the game. Prismatic is such a mistake and the class items just ends it

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    • Holly moses lol but yeah, I'm getting tired of how bad it is prasmatic compared to others. They say they will sort it, that there thinking about it but don't hold your breath, with the least played, least liked class even by devs, I wouldn't hold your breath

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    • Am I alive? Barely. I’ve mentioned this before, but titans have a history of being impossible to balance, since we’re always either absolutely broken, or completely useless

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      • [url=https://youtu.be/HdiXDaxrhGw?si=Ur_e-2NTLJP6VSWw]This[/url]

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      • If you were a true Titan, you would have written this in Crayon

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        • I have been running second chance with the new void super and prismatic. Shield throw and suppressor grenade. Got me through this weeks GM just fine.

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        • As a Titan main, I have absolutely 0 intentions of reading that wall of text that I am certain is full of grammar and punctuation errors. I know what I want from my class and Bungie is slowly moving towards my vision for the class… very slowly.

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          • Somebody summarize this novel for me in 2 adjectives, one noun and 3 emojis.

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            • Sorry didn’t read the entire post but maybe if we all put our inputs they might take some advices. They definitely chose the wrong aspects and maybe supers, may need to change or buff. I don’t want other classes nerf because those classes are fun to play, but titan right now isn’t as fun without any synergy. Most Titan’s supers are close range, without exotics, at base they should at least allow great damage reductions. You want Titans to run in a group of enemies with supers just to die. If the damage isn’t there the survivability should be at least. You want me to launch my low damage thundercrash into a crowd then expect me to run away safely? Twilight Arsenal is cool, but the hit detection, the velocity of the dam thing is horrible, also why can’t we control when to throw each axe like a golden gun or storm edge. Shield throw should work like threaded spike/withering blade. We’re a space titan, we throw a shield like we ain’t never throw a shield before. Let us throw like captain america and have it bounce as much as withering blade/threaded spike. The shield should come back and give us some melee energy back too. Glacial Grenades or Glacial Barricades, anything glacial should explode after a set time instead of having it disappear. I feel like thrusters should work on the ground and in the air like the og exotic twilight garrison. Unbreakable seems like a cool aspect, but why disable everyone with movement so you can advertise an exotic we don’t want to put on because then what other synergy will we use if we’re force to use this thing. Another thing to point out is, all these pickup items. Tangles and Diamond lances, why do i always pick up tangles first instead of lances. Now we got axes from our super to pick up too.

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            • didn't even sprinkle in a crayon or 2 to keep me reading.....

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            • I ain’t reading all that, however I’m a titan main and still going strong. 😂

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              • I made a similar post recently (albeit slightly shorter) but yes titans are in terrible state right now. I don’t want to play other classes but I feel like I’m letting the side down on Titan, I have very little to offer beyond the gun I bring. I also think there’s a lot to be said about the fact that every six weeks for the last two years titans got nerfed in one way or the other and just before this dlc came out Knockout got nerfed pretty hard and it’s still one of only three aspects even worth using on Prismatuc titan. Bungie please do something about this!

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              • I only play titan. You have to change a few builds around but there are some sleeper picks that allow the titan to do very well.

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                • Edited by Pk: 6/27/2024 12:24:41 PM
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                  I dont want to be unfounded, titans are bad fix them i dont know how... We got ONE single exotic that synergyzes with weapons "Hazardous Propulsion" almost everything else - punch get benefit Titans are spearhead, our frontline and we cant stand nor with weapon usage (no exotics that give benefit to weapons except No Backup plans which is bad because of astonishingly bad overshield) nor with ability spam except one viable heart of inmost light nor with survivability after strand nerf across all classes. Banner of war on strand was so much used and nerfed but why? Because it gave u survivability when u are jumping into the fray and thats all. If banner of war was literally on any other subclass - nothing would changed. Give titans ultimate that give 10% RPM on all weapons and autoreload - it will be viable in raid. It will be viable in ANY content because it will be raining down bullets of hell pushing forward like a bulldozer how titans should play. Give titans utility - exotic that changes lower barricade to its form 3 years ago - autoreload everything for everyone. Make subclass power lean into weapons not just punch thing and it will deal damage... Void - our main strength is making overshields. Make overshields viable and not oneshotted in second and lose literally any benefit. New aspect make it spread overshield to allies like vex glaive. Arc - Shouldercharge need overshield when running not given by aspect also increase damage so its not useless thing to blind if someone get close. Ballistic slam should get a ton more damage.. It cant kill Cabal in Gambit lol also overshield after cast or jolt anything left alive. Thunderclap is the only viable option in arc compare to others Spirit of inmost light should be an aspect on this subclass Solar - sol invictus is good but u running ether healing grenade or sol invictus - otherwise titan is dead or hiding far back. No other options. Return x2 restoration so its reasonable to run in for that sun spot and also Phoenix Cradle will be top tier again. consecration shoud give refund of melee on kills roaring flames should give benefits for weapons too Build: roaring flames+consecration should create tons of firesprites so healing grenade will be there most of the time Stasis - cryoclasm and howl of the storm should be merged no other options tectonic harvest should be intrinsic tied to a titan stasis subclass Basic melee here is useless and only used for Howl of the storm aspect need from ground changes here Some new aspects that gives benefits from shattering in close proximity Intrinsicly more damage on shatter for titan Strand - Abeyant leap was created just like Cuirass of the falling star - just to justife the creation of a new exotic (more about exotic changes later) Drengrs lash and into the fray should be merged abeyants leap reworked (later) Flechette storm is good but going high up in the sky makes u a BIG red dot for any sniper mob. Give this aspect ability to spread 10sec woven mail to every ally on cast. Now exotics Skullfort should provide 400% more melee energy on ANY Melee HIT because if someone kills ad in front of your melle flying in it u should run around 1.3 mins and wait for it to recharge or build into melee recharge Quiet one healing should work like Crimson or base Red death in PVP and give recharge rate to all abilities tied to your health and work like some kind of a meter (like on centrifuse when running) 100%healh 0% ability regen 10%health ***% ability regen Khepri's horn should work close like Dawn chorus - provide solar synergy bonuses Helm of saint-14 needs buff from void subclasses maybe some synergy with void overshield Eternal warrior need to work like Raiden Flux for fists of Havoc Loreley splendor will benefit from solar subclass buff Ashen wake need a complete rework Ursa furiosa useless only because of current sandbox Citans - make it take effect on Bubble super icefall mantle - remove restriction on class ability recharge + give max stacks of frost armor + its current state Second chance not much useful as a whole but buffing shield throw ease of use on long range would be good Pyrogale wirlwind from it barely tickles ads at onslaught wave 30 need a buff Crest of Alpha lupi need synergy with thruster and restoration x1 for 5sec Actium war rig need intrinsic target lock or maybe increasing damage buf for shooting for too long not covered over by radiant and well of radiance Hallowfire heart make it can create sun spots without sol invictus equipped Armamentarium - grenade recharge rate on grenade kills/hits Cuirass of fallen star - shards of galanor need to be intrinsic Mk 44 stand asides - complete rework or delete Path of burning steps gives weapons scorch buildup when roaring flames active Abeyant leap - suspended targets explode like chain reaction

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                • Edited by SpunChii: 6/27/2024 11:06:07 AM
                  If playing all classes with no main, will still technically count as a main for a class, then here is one. I do enjoy the Prismatic supers of both Titans and Warlocks.

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                • Usually let my fiance do my builds for me

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                • TLDR….

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                • Holy cow take it to a publisher

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                • Ghost gave me some very colorful crayons recently so I’m still around

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                • Just reading the title, yes, we’re alive. Titan main since 2015 :)

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                • I’m a titan main I read like 25% of that tbh skill diff I’ve brought fist of havoc and a bunch of random builds with exotics in this week gm and a lot of them do great stop listening to YouTubers and just try some out you just wanna get spoon fed like a hunter

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