Said this would happen on day 3 when I said there was no post campaign content outside the few exotic missions. A lot of it alienates solo players, the planet is a solo instance with very predictable instances & patterns, it's hollow & empty & there's no reason to go there. Pathfinder rubs people the wrong way, they made artifact levels need a lot more xp, it's way harder to earn dust, no repeatable bounties, stuck 6 more battlegrounds into strikes after hearing complaints all year about people not liking them (6 more coming this year to!), gambit & PvP have zero new changes, loot pools are stale & stagnant, removed pinnacles from things like dares of eternity & removed strange coins, made weekly story need a mic, no power increase now all year, episodes are seasons stretched out, season pass is 200 levels but just bloated with glimmer & upgrade modules so you get the same rewards just stretched out. Seasonal activity is beyond boring, running thru patrol banking motes, it's been years of this. To make it short, there's zero incentive to play more than a few days & this game is a hollow empty mess

Very simple , they have been running this nonsense for 10 years on the same engine ... It does not matter if you are on ps4 , xbox , a pc or a ps5 . The game has constant server issues because the game cannot handle it anymore . I quit because the game is not fun anymore because of it . It has been 10 years ... 10 YEARS !!! AND THEY STILL CANNOT MAKE THE GAME WORK ... Just make d3 already cause everything they add to d2 is breaking the game .

Dual Destiny. Solo players are leaving. Guess there are a lot of them.

Well, yeah, the games in a terrible state. Every weapon that's good Will be nerfed into the ground. While Pvp is just a forced win and loss simulator.

Final Shape itself was great. I hit max level last Thursday and besides some busy work for titles and triumphs, I've hit a wall of boredom so to speak. The real drag is the Episode. It's timegated worse than its predecessors but the biggest problem (for me) is that all of the play spaces are reused areas of either patrol or Season of the Splicer. Like, nearly all of it. I suspected that this expansion would just be "more Destiny", and it is. I'm not really complaining but since that's the case, I'm just not as interested as someone who hasn't been playing as long as I have. It's kind of a "been there, seen that" kinda deal for me. There needed to be some kind of innovation (like Gambit was in its time) for people like me to be really really interested. IMO.

Player burnout. Repetitive loot grind. It's just the same ol bungie.

i just want the metrics on people that own the DLC vs the last DLC drop

Many players see this as the unnoficial end of d2, it never mattered how good the expansion was, this drop off was always going to be sharp and quick, the only question was how long would the expansion hold that off for, and now we know. I don't think TFS is a flop. Bungie needed it to land well and it did and I'm sure it did well financially too, so job well done as far as they are concerned. 10 years is a long time to be invested in a game. I think many players want a few years break while we wait for the inevetable d3

Loads of people said they just wanted to see the campaign through then they are done with destiny. Add on top of that the "Episode" being just a longer and more time gated season, it's not hard to see why people would drop off. Crucible is in a gross new meta, battlegrounds plague strikes, gambit is still in the game, raid is divisive, duo destiny kicked solos where the sun don't shine, ritual Pathfinder is a pretty significant downgrade... Like... Why would people stay past the first week or two?

Too mechanic driven. Lack of a power fantasy when you can’t over level content. The activities as a whole (campaign included) aren’t engaging enough for replay. Most activities with TFS are simply one and done. Many players aren’t interested in the meaningless power level grind. Game lasted almost a month before the exodus began. I’m still playing, mainly for the episodic story, but playing other games now also because I can only take TFS in small doses.

I wouldn't call TFS a flop but it sure doesn't look like it supercharged the player base like Bungie probably hoped in light of the game's falling revenues. The Final Shape, though much better than Lightfall, never surpassed that DLC's peak players. When looking at Steam numbers there are some things to keep in mind to put those numbers into context: - Not all players on PC play on Steam, but most do. - PC players are about a third of the player base. - Steam numbers are one of the few accurate player counts available. - Player counts on PC and consoles fall or rise in close unison, so a fall (in percentage) of Steam numbers likely indicates a similar decline on consoles. So if Steam indicates that the number of current players at the start of Week 4 is about a third of the numbers in Week 1, then you can't write those off as irrelevant because the game doesn't magically retain players better on consoles than on PCs. So what do the falling numbers mean? - One, The Final Shape may have been satisfying to many players because of its story and some players have achieved closure with the game now and have moved on or... - Two, players are getting increasingly disengaged for various reasons, with issues with the increase in difficulty, network problems, nerfs, and matchmaking issues. Agree or not, these are issues for some players. And... -Three, big releases from competing games have come out, like the Elden Scroll DLC. No matter how you assess it, the quick rate at which Destiny 2 is losing concurrent players is looking like a problem that Bungie needs to address soon if they want to maintain a strong player base that will either play more of this game or something like Marathon when it comes out. Getting customers back is one of the hardest tricks in marketing so Bungie better have some good things to reveal yet if it wants to slow the outflow of players and keep a decent player base around for their next projects. Destiny 2 is a 10-year-old game that has told most of its story so it was always going to see a decline at some point no matter how good (or not) it still is. It's just the way it goes. Bungie is fighting the tide now, but the tide always wins in the end.

It's just not that good. It was aggressively "okay", and then after the campaign the toxic b.s. of the new game director was on display and people just aren't playing. I mean, how much of a loser would a person have to be in real life to devote all that time and energy to finding people to play Dual Destiny over and over and over just to get a thing we were lied to about? Then these same sad people are sitting around for hours trying to get 12 people together to do a GM Excision when even the regular version is nothing but invisible players? Then they put their full childish toxicity on display by gatekeeping on the forums while Bungie never even acknowledges their failure to make the game as accessible as it was merely a month ago. Then Bungie actually locks a previous guardian rank behind a mandatory co-op set of missions, further driving away players. I mean, these fools actually believe this is going to get more people playing by forcing "friendships" with Destiny's inferior, toxic playerbase. Video games aren't meant to be a social activity. That's what fishing, hunting, hiking, etc are for. But what am I saying? Most of the kids bragging about TFS don't even go outside except to stock back up on Doritos and soda.