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6/8/2024 9:26:04 AM
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Give back the Kinetic dmg bonus
Kinetic weapons are arguably much worse than elemental weapons.
1. They can’t synergise with any subclass (except transcendence, from a paid subclass)
2. They can’t break elemental shields
3. Can’t have anything like scorch, unravel, volatile, or any subclass weapon buffs
In today’s sandbox, Kinetic weapons need a boost. They need something that makes them more desirable to use over elemental weapons like sunshot or graviton. The extra damage was great for this. Now it’s gone.
Seeing as you hate players having extra damage where it matters, I’ve proposed a new solution: shield shredding. Allow kinetic weapons to rapidly break shields of any element, OR give us new fragments and exotic armour that synchronises with Kinetic easily.
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I feel like the change was only because of the new heavy trace rifle tbh. It’s kinetic and does good damage.
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2 RepliesEdited by Ferus Lux: 6/9/2024 3:08:15 AMBlast Furnace with Kinetic Tremors and One For All doesn't care about the nerf.
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When I heard of something like this I thought “So kinetics are going to be on par with stasis and strand weapons…” then laughed my head off when you realise that unlike those weapons you can buff your heavy with either strand and stasis mods without having to sacrifice anything
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4 RepliesThe damage bonus still applies to everything that’s not a boss. That’s everything from champions down to Thrall. The damage bonus was removed from Bosses only due to how it was invalidating DPS weapons of any other damage type.
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2 RepliesI use Witherhord so much, that I can't use a kinetic primary anyway.
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4 RepliesThey can nerf it to the ground. I'll never use strand or stasis. If I could put a kinetic sniper in the second slot, I would. They just look/sound and feel better when they fire.
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3 RepliesBut kinetic weapons had to get nerfed because of how good they are for generating energy for your second super on Prismatic, the only class that matters now, and the one Bungie is gonna be balancing the game around from now on.
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They still have the bonus for everything except for bosses.
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2 RepliesEdited by Prowler690: 6/8/2024 9:26:24 PMMy kinetic tremors / firefly and kinetic tremors / one for all Blast Furnaces that I ran through legendary story beg to differ. :) I didn't run a prismatic build either.
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21 Replies1. They can synergize with any subclass. Some fragments reward you for damage dealt, regardless of element, and some aspects impact ALL weapons, including kinetics. 2. They can break shields, it just takes a little bit longer, and it should, because that's the point of a SHIELD. It'd be stupid if the basic bullet could easily punch through a SHIELD. That would make it a pretty pointless shield. 3. This is just downright wrong. Radiant is a subclass weapon buff that impacts all weapons, including kinetic, and strand has a fragment that allows ALL weapons to cause Unravel through precision hits. Like, I'm sorry that you have no game sense, but basically EVERYTHING you've said here is flat-out wrong. As for your "shield shredding" idea, why would ANY damage type other than the exact match do significant damage to a shield? The point of a shield is to TANK DAMAGE for the user. I'm all for making the game accessible (easy for casuals, hard for sweats, super hard for pro sweats) but it still needs to make sense, and for the basic, bland, "normal" gun to be able to do ANYTHING significant to the highly advanced force field is ridiculous.
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5 RepliesKinetic Tremors would like a word........so would firefly.
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I agree, but honestly I like the idea of Kinetic weapons being an "Empty Vessel" weapons type. Kinetic damage weapons should be able to channel paracausal energy like Unraveling Rounds, Volatile Rounds, Jolt
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1 ReplyEdited by max: 6/8/2024 5:02:43 PMThe problem is I never understand why they deny stasis and strand from kinetic bonus in the first place They are literally in the kinetic slot, doesn't do shite against energy shield, complete lack of ads cleaning perks, they put all these crazy dps roll on them but mess with their damage multiplier, and instead of bringing them in line with kinetics, they nerf kinetics into energy, I be lying if I say this surprises me but damn what an absolute bungie thing to do
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I use special for my primary anyway. Primary in the second slot is 100x better. Incandescent, volt shot , destabilization rounds. All kinetics have is firefly or tremors so ehh
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1 ReplyYeah I pretty much relegate the kinetic slot to a special weapon and just use sunshot or le monarque
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At first I didn't believe you until I tested and holy -blam!- that's wild
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Yeah, they are useless. That's why Onslaught pissed me off. All these weapons they "brought back", and most were kinetic.
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Kinetics should hit like a truck imo. 💪
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They are always looking to make the game more of a slogfest.
