I can’t seem to find a PVE roll for Recluse to replace funnelweb.
Has anyone found a roll that would actually replace funnelweb?
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Guardian,Archon Of Light
Blade Of The Traveler - old
Title would be king If 720s had a bigger mag One for all>Master Of Arms/Frenzy -
Right now we’re drownling in void smg’s and they neutered Master of Arms to a point where its significantly worse than Tricorn x1 duration wise and both damage and duration wise compared to Paracausal Affinity (yes in pvp too) It wasn’t the gun model that made recluse great. Or the zoom or any of that -blam!-. It was the perk Master of Arms. And that perk is now less than worthless. A 15% dmg bonus that lasts for 3-4 seconds, an absolute joke and whoever was in charge of changing this perk is a Clown of the highest order And you even dared to brag about changing it, talking about like its an exciting new perk. Theres SMGs with killclip, or tricorn or a buncha other perks that are simply way better than MoA. Needless to say me saying all this is a complete waste because Bungie are Clowns for doing this and even bring Hung Jury , Succession and other guns nobody but 1 redditor asked for. And this week I tried Midnight Coup and it feels absolutely terrible to shoot and even with high handling the handling is low. Typical Bungie things bring back stuff but make it worse than it was. Significantly worse so that nobody but a handful of new players use the weapons and all that development money is wasted on the more serious players. As usual. There is no disappointment anymore. Just acceptance. Acceptance that you’ve lost your touch completely. Just look at pvp, its like some drug addict is making all the pvp changes. “Give em no special” “No wait give em so much special they can run double specials and have 32 Forerunner shots!” Try this! Try that! Try random -blam!- all day long and see if it works 6 years into the game! I rate your performance A for Amateurs
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Edited by eliteg: 4/17/2024 2:08:10 AMI just tested both... over and over for ad clear by going to grasp of avarice.. and this is what I learned: [b]used (on m&k):[/b] --Funnelweb (subsistence/frenzy) --Recluse (subsistence + desp measures) & (threat/enlightened + frenzy/desperate measures/master of arms) & (feeding frenzy + master of arms) [b]learned:[/b] --Funnelweb felt and seemed to perform much better and I think that is because of the zoom @ 14 vs 13.. the reticle gets tinier and just stays on target makes it feel crisp --Recluse with feeding frenzy can keep you in the action better than threat detector and enlightened (which you never see proc'd by the way) --if the trait actually did something (indom..) than subsistence/desperate measures could be a very cool roll with a grenade or melee build [b]bonus:[/b] --you can chain desperate measures x 3 to your kinetic midnight coup and swap back and forth.. they will have dif timers its odd functionality actually [b]TLDR[/b] > Funnelweb Winner for now in both PVE and PVP
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Origin trait is probably better on recluse Veist is nice but I works rather have demo at home
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Enlightened action desperate measures.
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Depends what you want to use it for. Recluse's major ins over Funnelweb are Repulsor Brace and Destabilizing Rounds for Void builds, and a better Origin Trait. Base stats are broadly the same but Funnelweb has 14 Zoom to Recluse's 13, which seems to be a dealbreaker for many people. If you want an exact replacement then Recluse can get the same Subsistence + Frenzy roll. Feeding Frenzy, Enlightened Action and Desperate Measures are all good options in their respective columns, but Master of Arms doesn't seem worth much these days.
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Repulsor+Frenzy (only if you use volatile rounds)
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Edited by UnspokenONI: 4/17/2024 3:36:52 AMFunnelweb is just better frenzy, subsistence, origin trait Meanwhile Recluse has both those perks meh origin trait and better stats and the deterministic recoil is trash Also funnelweb is hella yes to farm since u can just buy it from the gunsmith.
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Yes subsistence frenzy same roll but better because recluse has a better origin trait and its perks will be enhanced in final shape
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Enlightened Action/Frenzy, Enlightened Action/Surrounded are good. Dunno if the stats are enough to beat Funnelweb.